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Thunder Tiger Raptors 30-90 - Imperio > grip flip
 
 
Joel
Senior Heliman
Location: Columbia, MS

I had some flutter and did the grip flip but the long links that control the pitch are hitting the bolts in the washout hub. Did I connect everything right?
I know this is getting old but I can't find any info on it.

Joel
05-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Smokinjo
Senior Heliman
Location: Memphis TN

Do a search for headflip and you will see the instructions for it. Your problem is that you need to flip the wash-out and arms over and reinstall on the mainshaft. Then modify the inside of the Y links that connect to the swash so that they move freely through the pitch range. The original configuration will be beveled on the side that goes down. You will see what I am taklking about when you do the flip.

Hope this helps
Joe
05-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
dwaynet
Senior Heliman
Location: Fairfax, Virginia

Repost of earlier instructions that I saved to my computer, this was not written by me but I used it with great success:
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Flipping the Raptor 30 head.


(Before starting, measure and write down your pitch settings.)

1) Remove the head bolt (Page 12, No. 1).

2) Pop the oval links Page (11, No. 25) and mixing rods (Page 12 top, No. 4) loose at the bottom.


3) Pop the wash out links (Page 7, bottom, No. 8) off of the swash and remove the wash out subassembly. The links will have to be modified slightly. If you look closely, you will see they are beveled inside the “y” on one side. Use a file or sharp knife and remove enough material to match this bevel on the opposite side.

4) Turn the wash out subassembly over and slide it back on the shaft. Push the swash all the way up and tilt it to it’s full left/right/fore/aft position making sure the wash out links do not bind against the arms (Page 7 bottom, No. 7). If they do, remove more material is noted above. When everything is working freely, pop the wash out links and oval links back on.


5) Remove the lock nuts from feathering shaft (Page 11, No. 27), pop both double links (Page 11, No. 26) completely off, and remove the blade grips. Rotate the grips 180 degrees and reinstall the grips and lock nuts.

6) Modify both double links as follows. Remove a link from one end of each and replace with a standard length ball link. In every case I have tried, these needed to be installed with CA glue as the new links were a little loose on the threads. After modification, pop one end back on the blade grips.


7) Loosen the flybar control rod set screws (Page 11, No 4), rotate the control rods 180 degrees, and re-tighten the set screws. Since these are now not on the flat area of the rod, you will have to be careful to keep the arms aligned while tightening.

8) Remove both mixing levers (Page 11, No. 22), flip over 180 degrees, and re-attach to the opposite end of the flybar seesaw hub (Page 11, No. 21). Don’t forget the loctite. Pop the double links and long linkage rods back on.


9) Install the head on your Raptor and re-attach the wash out links and long linkage rods to the swash.

After double checking that everything is tight and installed correctly, you are ready to re-do your pitch settings and fly.

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Hope that helps. Check that you did not forget anything.

Dwayne
05-01-2002 Over year old.
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Joel
Senior Heliman
Location: Columbia, MS

Thanks

I didn't know I had to flip the washout hub.

Thanks,
Joel
05-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Captain Scarlet
Senior Heliman
Location: South Wales.

I didn't realise you had to flip the washout either,but now having done so,I now find that the flybar control links rub against the blade grips.
05-05-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Virtual1
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterloo, Iowa - USA

Captain Scarlet: That shouldn't happen. Did you install the flybar control links (aka "oval links") upside-down? One end's link is longer than the other. They should be installed the same way they were to begin with, do not flip them.
05-06-2002 Over year old.
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Captain Scarlet
Senior Heliman
Location: South Wales.

Thanks Virtual 1.I got it sorted.I stupidly flipped the washout hub,but didn't swing the flybar control arms 180deg. Brain flipped I guess ! Thanks again for your input.Kev.
05-06-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Smokinjo
Senior Heliman
Location: Memphis TN

Has anyone tried those ball extensions on the blade grips (Michael Prewitt's web page). Just curious of this works without doing this head flip. I flipped the head on mine, went through three sets of blades, eliminated any play on the lower main where the gear is and still have the blades come out of track major. (2") Next I am going to put a new set of thrust bearings in and try something different. Anyone have any other suggestions, I would like to know. I also greased the spindle and dampners with 100% silicone grease. Still no luck

Joe
05-07-2002 Over year old.
 
 
lamkh69
Heliman
Location: HK

I did not flip my blade grips. I have put a spark plug washer in the blade grips between bearing to eliminate the blade moving in/out. And I put a sheet of tin around the outer bearing to eliminate the free play between the blade grip and the bearing.

So far, it works fine to me.
05-07-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Smokinjo
Senior Heliman
Location: Memphis TN

Thanks and maybe I will give it a try.

PS what size spark plug (id od of the washer if you happen to have it)

Thanks
Joe
05-07-2002 Over year old.
 
 
lamkh69
Heliman
Location: HK

Ooopps, I mean washer from glow plug such as OS no.8. Not spark plug of car engine. I found some used one to eliminate the free play. The brand new one might be a micron thicker than expected.
05-07-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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