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Dahflyboy1
Senior Heliman
Location: Orlando, FL

Anyone been or still is a Navy pilot? I'd like to get some feeback as I'm looking into flying for the Navy as a career. Just wanted to chit chat I guess.

Dean
03-02-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Ray Fernandez
Elite Veteran
Location: Guam (U.S.A.)

Dean,

The politically correct term is;

Naval Aviators

Ray Fernandez - GUAM
03-02-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Graeme
Senior Heliman
Location: Jeffersonville, IN, USA

Oh! You mean "Airborn Squids"!

I don't believe in "PC" and, to me, nothing is sacred where humor is concerned. (Tasteless, maybe, but not sacred.)

But... If no other pilot in the world, you've got to admire those guys 'n gals.
03-02-2004 Over year old.
 
 
GordoSH-3
Heliman
Location: Birmingham, Alabama (USA)

Dean:

I'm an ex-Naval Aviator (re: "Rotor Head"). Ask away & I'll respond.

Gordo
03-02-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Dahflyboy1
Senior Heliman
Location: Orlando, FL

Gordo
You were a Sea King pilot? How's life like on the ships for you guys? How long did you fly? Why not jets? My big decision, I think, would be either rotary or jet pilot, I'm just not sure. Thanks

Dean

PS Ray were you a "Naval Aviator"? My roomate is from Guam and says hi (and that he can now vote for Bush unlike you) hehe
03-03-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Salty
Elite Veteran
Location: Jville Fl...Ahhhh getting better

Dont trust him he was a sh-3 pilot I fly the SH-60B seahawk....honestly...if you can get avation go for it, where else can you get paid for getting your fixed wing rating, and a rotary rating in the same place....ship life is fine, as a JO it sucks on the first cruise (I'm on small boys) but its not too bad...learning curve is huge, where else can you land on a floating pin in the middle of the ocean and stick a little itsy bitsy rast probe you cant even see into the deck of a bobbing ship, plus you get to see cool ports...I've had fun....I love it I cant believe they pay me for this, as far as jets helos.....pretty much everyone picks jets...fact of the matter is thats pretty much determined for you as per the needs of the navy, if your the best in the class you'll go jets...if your good but not the best...you'll prob get helos...you flight school grades depend on jets or rotary
03-03-2004 Over year old.
 
 
GordoSH-3
Heliman
Location: Birmingham, Alabama (USA)

Dean:

I was an "unrestricted aviator" for 20 years and was both fixed wing and helicopter qualified with almost 4K total time No jet time but I do (did?) have experience in both single engine and twin engined props. Most of my flight time was logged in the RH-53D Sea Stallion (Sikorsky S-65), TH-1 Huey & TH-57 Jet Ranger trainers (Bell 212/206) and the SH-3 Sea King (Sikorsky S-61).

As rotorpsyco said, almost everyone wants to go jets initially but which type ACFT or mission you will ultimately fly will be determined by the needs of the Navy. Factors such as how many pilots graduate from basic flight training the week you graduate, what your class standing is, how many "seats" are open or available for the type ACFT or mission you want, etc. will control. The priorities and numbers will change from week to week. In my graduating class of 36, only 2 went jets, about 4-5 went multi-engine, more than 20 of us went helicopters, and a small handfull were sent to desk jobs!! Two-three months later, many graduating classes had almost everyone put into the jet pipeline, even guys who had lower overall grades than I did. Timing is a virtue.

Again, I agree with rotorpsyco in that flying and getting paid to do it is far better than any other job I've had. The view from a helicopter is unbeatable and I can do anything in a helicopter that a jet driver can do except exceed the speed of sound and routine aerobatics ( I did see 120-130 degrees angle of bank in a RH-53 a couple of times but that is another story!!). I spent most of my time at sea on aircraft carriers where we generally had more creature comforts. I did do some short stints aboard "small boys" such as nuke cruisers, Aegis cruisers and 1052(?) class frigates (the most challenging, no RAST hauldown for landings and only 11 feet of rotor clearance from the hanger doors when you had the Sea King exactly in the center of the landing spot). On the up side, we always took our hot food and bunks with us so we didn't have to worry much about snakes or bugs in our sleeping bags or eating MRE's for days on end like the Army guys.

If you really want to do the military service thing, then work very hard in college to be competitive for flight school selection and work extremely hard in basic flight school to get a shot at your first choice of ACFT type/mission. If you work hard enough, you'll get where you want to go.

Finally, remember that Naval Aviators wear wings of Gold, not lead and "real men" fly from the sea, not 12,000 foot runways.

Gordo
03-03-2004 Over year old.
 
 
GordoSH-3
Heliman
Location: Birmingham, Alabama (USA)

rotorpsyco:

Oh yea, the SH-60 is a nice ship! Flew one once for about 20 min. in JAX, FL. Dosen't ditch too well but then again I had a friend of mine survive two H-46 ditchings.

What squadron are you with?

Gordo
03-03-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Salty
Elite Veteran
Location: Jville Fl...Ahhhh getting better

Gordo your spot on as far as the logistics of the pipeline...when I went through it was determined by grades in primary mainly just for the simple fact that there was a bunch of salty jet jocks getting out, though one thing you gotta think about is the fact that you dont see many helo guys becoming admirals....once in a blue moon but the jet jocks usually get all the glory there, though I would much rather be fly helo's than jets honestly...helo's were my first choice....LAMPS (HSL Community SH-60B was not my first choice, HS Carrier ops was....going back to what gordo said....life is a bit more cushy on the carrier) But lamps is a great place to be, nothin like landing on those small boys in a high sea state....I'm attached to HSL-42 proud warriors, got 8 rescues under my belt and in my few short years in the navy (5 years in a operational squadron) I have 1200 hours in model....I always wanted to fly big bertha never had the chance yet, flew the russian helix....wow thats a flying trashcan, flown the norwegan NH-90...nice aircraft...flowna few other forien birds, super puma and a few others...as far as the ditching situation goes your correct....though scince pulling the floats off survivability went up.....and you only have to ditch if you crash I've been in One mishap...dont want to do that again, had a high speed shaft failure upon take off from a ddg flight 2 and when we came thundering back on deck our stab caught one of the bits and got ripped off.... oi...that was a long three days

wings of gold baby!!!

Nothin better!!!
03-03-2004 Over year old.
 
 
GordoSH-3
Heliman
Location: Birmingham, Alabama (USA)

rotorpsyco:

Yea, I wouldn't trade helicopters for anything. I always enjoyed flying off the small boys (kinda seperates the men from the boys). DQ's forever!!

I've got one rescue and some medivacs. As far as I'm concerned, any of those events justifies every penny that was spent on my training.

As for the big boat, it was more stable most of the time but she could also get to moving around. I recall one trip up near the Kola peninsula (Artic Circle) back in '89 when the sea states were so bad the stiffies couldn't fly at all for several days and the fling wingers were the battle group "defensive posture" :

I was in HM-12 & HM-16 in Norfolk and HS-9 & HS-11 out of JAX. The first two outfits sorta sucked (read not enough flight time), the third squadron really sucked (read C.O.) and the airwing sucked even more (read attitude).

The last outfit was great and the ship (USS America) was superb. The America's airwing back then was flexible enough to let us fight with them instead of against them and the airwing knew we had their backs if the crap started. They were gonna fly cover for us if needed and we were going to go get them if necessary.

I hope you're having as much fun as I did. As for now, I'm trying to transition to tiny helis and I'm getting my butt kicked on a regular basis. Maybe I need a FNAB!!

Gordo
03-03-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Salty
Elite Veteran
Location: Jville Fl...Ahhhh getting better

Hell If you got FNAB'd everytime on these little one's you'd be in the stone age sucking your thumb...I thought R/c heli was going to be no big deal (read cause I know the theory of how the darn thing flys and how to fly it) totally different flying from the outside looking in....I got a couple of my AO's that decomed the american, heard she was a good ship...shame bout the CO, Had a shoe skipper that was totally nuts on my boat before last....he was the security officer when the beruit barracks got bombed....needless to say capt was as high as he got...but he would talk to himself in combat...(good ship great ship, the teams gonna make it....) Thats what he would say to himself...anyway, dont want to hijack this guys thread, looks like we already did tho...(sorry, two navy pig flyers)

GO NAVY!!
GO BROKE!!

as my pop would say
03-04-2004 Over year old.
 
 
NTXEVO
Heliman
Location: Plano, TX - United States

Its just a joke that I was told...

nobody take this the wrong way its just a joke.


What do you call a retired Navy man???



give up??



Discharged Seaman
HAHAHA
sorry just thought I would add that in there...




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03-04-2004 Over year old.
 
 
GordoSH-3
Heliman
Location: Birmingham, Alabama (USA)

Dean:

You still checking this thread? Got any more Q's??

Gordo
03-04-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Dahflyboy1
Senior Heliman
Location: Orlando, FL

Yeah man I'm still around. Hopefully I'll get to fly some Hornets or other fast movers at Pax River or Pt. Mugu this summer. I'll know early april wether or not I get to. Suggest getting a ride in any particular helo? Thanks for all the help fellas

Dean
03-04-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Ray Fernandez
Elite Veteran
Location: Guam (U.S.A.)

Dean,

I am not a aviator however have many friends who were and still are. We actually have a club member who was a aviator who flew Sky Raiders over Vietnam.

Say "Hafa Adai" (pronounced: ha fah ah day ) to your room mate. It's a form of greeting on Guam, like Aloha in Hawaii.

Ray Fernandez - GUAM
03-04-2004 Over year old.
 
 
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