fitenfyr
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Location: Port Orchard, Washington
| Here we go again....Here is the Reply from THE DOT! You know the guys that write the Hazmat regs for the FAA.
I flew to Las Vegas with my Sceadu, tx and the field gear neatly packed in a hard sided suitcase I built for traveling.
NO PROBLEMS.
Each airline has it's own regs, but to say that it is HAZMAT they are reading too much into the regs. Now you will notice there is some room for interpetation on these. What is completey purged? To me that means a Gas free certificate and ventilation. Now that is too the extreme. I would figure no visible residue would surfice for the average person.
My wife works for air cargo for a major airline. She used to say the same thing till I showed her this reply. She agrees now that it is not HAZMAT as defined by the DOT and has no problem with letting them go. This used to cause fights with us so this was a pretty big achievment for me.
I would not take the tx on as a carryon item. Just put yourself in the screeners shoes. Big box, lots of switches, dials, compterized parts, wires, big chunk of soild looking stuff that might be a battery.....You get the idea.
At least in the suitcase it will be x-rayed and sniffed so they can be reasonably sure it will not go boom!
Hope some of this helped
Jason
From: "Infocntr Infocntr" | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: "'Jason Stiffey'"
Subject: RE: Aircraft shipping/baggage question
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 09:31:46 -0500
Dear Jason,
We have received your inquiry about the Hazardous Materials Regulations (HMR; 49 CFR Parts 171-180). The HMR are available at the following URL:
http://hazmat.dot.gov/rules.htm
Model rocket motors are classified as 1.4C or 1.4S, meaning they are classified as explosives. Information on shipping a new explosive can be found in Part 173, Subpart C. If your rocket motor falls under the definition of a 1.4C material it is forbidden aboard passenger carrying aircraft (see § 172.101).
From your description, you call the item an internal combustion engine. If it is an engine for a model plane and does not contain any hazardous material, such as fuel, it is not regulated. You must ensure that the engine and fuel tank are completely purged of all residue and vapors. Information on what constitutes "empty" can be found in § 173.29.
If you require further assistance, our Hazardous Materials Information Center is staffed with regulatory specialists who can quickly answer your questions by phone. Please do not hesitate to call, as the Information Center is open Monday through Friday, 9 am - 5 pm E.S.T. at (800) 467-4922 or (202) 366-4488.
Sincerely,
U.S. DOT
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Stiffey [mailto:fitenfyr@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 12:40 AM
To: infocntr@rspa.dot.gov
Subject: Aircraft shipping/baggage question
Could you tell me what the regulations are regarding the shipping or transporting as baggage of Radio Control model aircraft onboard a commercial airline? Specifically small internal combustion engines less than 1cu with NO FUEL in the engine or fuel tank.
Thanks
Jason Stiffey
Jason Stiffey
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