Stet
Elite Veteran
Location: Long Beach CA
| Kyoto protocol was a crock
Europe wasn't going to sign up for it either, but convenient to blame the US for the ending of it.
China, India and other 3rd world countries were specifically excepted from it, so basically all production would go there where there is no environmental control whatsoever. So what jobs we haven't lost already would be lost and all industrial manufacturing in this country would cease. But the greens care not about our economy, we can all grow vegtables in our collective farms I suppose. So giving China and India the green light to produce and pollute at will is OK, is that what your thesis is? At the expense of our industries? Resulting in greater overall pollution?
And just what "alternative" is Bush and the evil oil industry quashing? You want to tell me that if someone develops cold fusion that the marketplace won't jump on it? If you know anything about energy business, it is dollars per kilowat hours period. It is evolution, stone age, bronze age, iron age, industrial age, computer age. Once the alternative costs less, it will wipe out oil and OPEC in an example of Malthusian Population Growth. Some genius will pull it off, and there will be no stopping it. And I don't believe we need government dollars to go make it happen, the free market and money tied up in oil will provide plenty of motivation. Or you can pay the government to subsidize wind power, but the simple fact is that it has not reached the price threshold needed, not even close. Oil is cheap? Yeah, and every industry in this country and the world depend on it, right down to heating your house. Do you want all your expenses to double and triple? Are you ok with that?
And where will you get the power to charge your electric car? We call those "plooution transfer vehicles" because the energy has to be created somewhere else then transmitted (with additional losses) to your car's location. Right now you can get that energy from coal, oil, natural gas or uranium.
So yes, it's ok that Bush is protecting our interests in oil, and not signing Kyoto becasue if he did not, you would have a lot more to be concerned about, namely economic collapse. But perhaps it would be better if that happened so we could live out some green utopian fantasy. But that's not the way it works in the real world. It's called communism and it is a proven failure. I will go with the free market and $1.50 per gallon gas to get me to work and back.
And by the way, you can drive down our freeways here in a submicro car all you want. I prefer to survive an accident. Our SUV's get better mileage than standard autos of only 10 years ago. It's about freedom, something it seems some writers here would deny us because their authoritiarian and altruistic beliefs are more "moral". Believe it all you want, I'm in those industries and this line of thinking is, simply stated, a joke. Sounds good, maybe makes you feel good, but is not connected with economic realities.
And will Kerry if he wins run out and sign Kyoto? Will the Europeans follow? Why didn't Clinton sign it, instead of passing the political hot potato to Bush? Answer is, no one will sign it, ever. It was fundamentally flawed.
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