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HM16 Seahawk
Senior Heliman
Location: Fenton, Michigan - USA

Here's a question for you guys/gals that know something about digital photography.
When I take my pictures, I always get 72 dpi, which is apparently independent of pixel count. I was looking at a nice picture that I saved of someones joker (gravity shots I believe) and his picture had 240 dpi.
I know what dpi stands for, is it significant for photo reproduction?
12-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

DPI is important for image reproduction. Higher DPI images will look better when printed because there is more information there for reproduction of the image.

If you re-size your images in photoshop to different sizes and they print lousy try turning off the 'resample' function in the Image Size dialog. This maintains the image quality by bringing up the DPI while reducing the physical print size. The image will still appear to be the same size on your screen as it was before, but it will print to the dimensions you specified while retaining the quality.

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Jon
12-27-2003 Over year old.
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wademcgee
Senior Heliman
Location: Kennesaw,Ga.

I'll try to make it simple

Here is a good basic way to think about it. Wether it be DPI, LPI, or Pixel count...it is all about how much information is crammed into a designated area. For instance. You may take a picture that is 72 DPI (Dots per Inch), which is fine if the picture is large enough. Say you take it at say 1280 x 1024. This will print fine at any size 1280 x 1024 or smaller. The more you decrease it, the higher the DPI becomes for you are increasing the amount of information contained in the same size photo...hope this makes since. Now say you wanted to blow it up to 2560 x 2048...you would end up with a photo that is now 35 DPI. You depleted the information by 1/2 since you doubled its size.

Keep in mind this is the simplest explanation. I have worked in Photoshop for 15 years and you can navigate in and out of resolution issues pretty easy as long as you are familiar with the rules. Best rule of thumb is keep the resolution as high as you possibly can if you hope to ever print the photo. Keep the resolution as low as possible, while maintaining a clear image, if you hope to output the photo to the web.

Hope this helps. Now don't even think of asking this same question in regards to video!!!
12-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
mr.rc-cam
Heliman
Location: USA

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When I take my pictures, I always get 72 dpi, which is apparently independent of pixel count.
"72 dpi" is the native pixel format for web published photos. Web browsers expect 72 dpi, which allows you to determine how big they will appear on the monitor, relative to the user's chosen screen format.

For example, if you expect display within an 800 x 600 screen, you would resize the photo to not exceed 800 pixels (usually less to accomodate borders).

However, paper mediums are not constrained by the 72 dpi resolution since paper does not care about the internet. The print size will determine if the native pixel count will need to be up-sampled, down-sampled, or left alone (a task performed by the printing app's software). As mentioned, the higher the native pixel count the higher the possible print quality.
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HM16 Seahawk
Senior Heliman
Location: Fenton, Michigan - USA

Thanks everyone,
I got it now. Wade's explanation was especially enlightening. I guess I need to buy myself a "how to" book on digital photography....maybe I can return all those socks and ties I got for Christmas and use that money!
Have a happy new year.
12-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
wademcgee
Senior Heliman
Location: Kennesaw,Ga.

Dude,
I'll poke around and see what I have here. It may be old stuff, but might be good stuff. I'll see what I can scrounge. Try Photoshop for dummies. Email me privately and I'll see what I can do about getting you a "demo" copy to try out.
12-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
jeffscholl
Key Veteran
Location: Whitefish, MT

A good book for the nitty gritty is David Blatner's Real World Photoshop.
Good information for printer dpi's, monitor calibration, color profiles etc...

72 dpi was a mac standard for a long time, so for instance if you created a new document on the monitor that was 72 pixels long and put a ruler up to the screen it would be one inch in length.
Now on the newer cards/CRT's that can display 2048x1536 on 21" your 1 inch image may be over 100 pixels in length. Now take an LCD front projector that can display 1280x1024 on a 80". The inherent dpi is now quite a bit lower :-) For the most part this is all trivial except when trying to standardize font sizes.

In a nutshell just think of dpi when dealing with scanners and prints.
As far as digital displays (monitor) a pixel is a pixel is a pixel.
One way to demonstrate this is to take an image and save it as the same pixel demensions but different dpi. What you will find is a 300x400pixel image at 1dpi has the same file size as a 300x400image at 300dpi. However, if you could hit print with a monster spool printer, one image would look awesome and come out as 1" x 1.3", but the other would look absolutely cruddy but come out as 300" x 400". Ballpark dpi's are 150dpi for newspaper printers, 300dpi for magazines, and 600dpi for the killer post productions.

The 240dpi you saw from my gravityshots image is a default setting I use in Adobe Capture and Capture C1 Pro for Canon CRW and Nikon NEF raw files.

Cheers,
Jeff
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wademcgee
Senior Heliman
Location: Kennesaw,Ga.

Good explanation Jeff

I am an old MAC guy. Some people forget that the DPI thing was meant for printing in regards to what you see on the screen. Never mind trapping, that's a whole other issue!
12-27-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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