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Got Jet Fuel? Turbine Helicopters > Comanche: where?

Vinnie
Senior Heliman
Location: Miami Beach, Florida

Where can I get a good Comanche fuselage kit, mechanics, and turbine? Where do you get the 5 bladed head and tail unit?

12-22-2003 Over year old.

BigRagu
Senior Heliman
Location: Utah

Comanche

DUDE! . . .Look UP . . .Starwood Scale Models Add is just above your posting?

BigRagu

12-22-2003 Over year old.

Gary Travis
Veteran
Location: Utah

Dario
When I look up I see the ceiling, if I look up to far I tip over.
Good one
Gary

12-22-2003 Over year old.

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Dr.Tim
Key Veteran
Location: Mojave Desert

The Website is http://www.starwoodmodels.com

Enjoy!

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12-22-2003 Over year old.

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Vinnie
Senior Heliman
Location: Miami Beach, Florida

DOH

Maybe you should be the one doing the looking.

Obviously I already looked there, and they do not mention any turbine mechanics for the Comanche.

They also do not talk about the tail unit except in conjunction with the gas mechanics (i.e. not turbine).

And where did you say the 5 bladed rotor head was? Huh?

Thanks for nothing!

12-22-2003 Over year old.

ComancheDriver
Senior Heliman
Location: Afghanistan - Operation Enduring Freedom

Comanche

The only Comanche model available is a gasser by Len Mount, which you probably already know.

A turbine version although not yet available is being considered by several builders and likely to be a custom job. Hopefully, I will owe the first one.

More information at and after the AMA convention in Ontario, Ca. next month.

http://www.starwoodmodels.com/
http://runryder.com/helicopter/f54p1/ "Got Jet Fuel - Turbine Aircraft"

If you're interested in a Comanche model take look at my gallery:
http://runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/5461/

ComancheDriver

Live Fast... Fly Fast... .

12-22-2003 Over year old.

Vinnie
Senior Heliman
Location: Miami Beach, Florida

yes

Your Comanche looks great.

Thanks for the information.

So let me get it straight - you are confirming that there is no Comanche/turbine mechanics combo out there? I should end my search?

12-22-2003 Over year old.

ComancheDriver
Senior Heliman
Location: Afghanistan - Operation Enduring Freedom

No, would never suggest you stop. If you find someone, let me know because I started pursuing that question over a year from USA, to Canada and Europe.

But to answer your question, I don't know of any turbine scale Comanche fuselage (Kit) that been built or flown - yet. Mechanics and turbine (recommend Jakadofsky's PJ-W-R), and components are available, some parts would likely be custom made.

Including myself only a handful of builders and RC'er are interested in a scale Comanche - expect the cost would be in $10 - 20K range for a custom one-off.

Scalejet - not interested at this time. Checkout these other builders both build giant scale helicopters for turbine and gasser.
http://www.scale-heli.at/
http://www.scalecopter.de/

Hope, I answered your questions.............Go low, Go slow...

Comanchedriver

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12-22-2003 Over year old.

BigRagu
Senior Heliman
Location: Utah

Comanche

Dude . . .Been there too, and already knew that it's "THE ONLY ONE AVAILABLE" at this time.
Be creative and bust out the Foam and Glass or convert the Len Mount and be somebody! Thanks for nothing . . .

BigRagu

12-23-2003 Over year old.

Elliot
Heliman
Location: Germany

We had several discussions building a big sclae comanche and maybe we will do it in spring next year. The model would probably be around 2.50 meters long. There would be available different woodwork for various mechanics and turbines.

There is simply no idea, if the work would be worth it as the model is very special....

Elliot

12-23-2003 Over year old.

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ComancheDriver
Senior Heliman
Location: Afghanistan - Operation Enduring Freedom

Yes, the Comanche is a specialize aircraft and design.

Some of the best model builders said, because of the Exhaust system design and Fenestron T/R ssize, building a large scale "turbine" Comanche model is a near impossible challenge.

I wonder who will be first to build such a machine?

ComancheDriver

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01-28-2004 Over year old.

Dr.Tim
Key Veteran
Location: Mojave Desert

To do it scale would take some thought but, with the exhaust coming out the top would create some problems ... Its easy to just vent it out the side and so forth but it would look pretty bad. The other Problem would be the Fenstron .. there are larger units out there but they have Metal Blades! They would have to be made of Carbon Fiber or Glass to be approved to fly in the USA .... Then you would have to build the Molds and such ...... The Current model he has on the Market is Sport Scale and flys real nice .. looks great in the air and you could deck it out as far as you want. For right now it looks like just the Gasser will be around .

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01-28-2004 Over year old.

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ComancheDriver
Senior Heliman
Location: Afghanistan - Operation Enduring Freedom

Dr. Tim, great to hear from you - Apache information almost ready.

To remain scale the exhaust has to exit through the aft fairing upper slots and top two slots running down tailboom fuselage of course these opening could be made slightly larger (maybe covered with high-temp mesh screen) to accomondate heat dissipation, otherwise that could be an issue.

Agreed, it's going to take some thought designing an exhaust for this model. Wonder if Tam pipes could help. http://www.tampipes.com

I also heard that a Fenestron [with metal blades] larger than Vario is available overseas for 2.0m - 2.5m scale models. What do you think? Get that Fenestron system and find a USA Mfg capable of making custom size Carbon-Fibre or Glass blades for it.
What's your thoughts?

Can't wait to hear from you............. Watchout, sending an Apache Longbow to see you and Al.

ComancheDriver

Live Fast... Fly Fast... .

01-29-2004 Over year old.

Dr.Tim
Key Veteran
Location: Mojave Desert

Good to see you made it home OK! Looking forward for those Piks!! The Cobra is going in for Paint in the Morning, I should have it almost ready for Vegas this weekend! I will have it there for display at any rate. Hope to see you again real Soon!! Had a good time !!

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From Simple minds come simple ideas! Starwood Models, Approach Engineering

01-29-2004 Over year old.

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ComancheDriver
Senior Heliman
Location: Afghanistan - Operation Enduring Freedom

Got back Tuesday - the Iraqi I saw is not what you seen on CCN no place for your sons or daughters to be.

Looking forward to some time off, maybe Sin City this weekend?

Will be bringing my camera.

Won't be ready for another 2-weeks, still have to put on CDs do have most drawings.

Regarding those larger Fenestron overseas, do you have a POC?

ComancheDriver

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01-29-2004 Over year old.

Elliot
Heliman
Location: Germany

Hi Ken,

the fenestron is not available as single unit. We sell it only together with the EC120 (or others which need a fenestron...). We will have carbon blades for the unit as the EC120 will be available in the States also.

During the last weeks we solved the exhaust problem regarding the Comanche. It`s a fine trick and if we only would know if such a model would be a good seller, we could start to manufacture it right now...

Have a nice one !

Elliot

01-29-2004 Over year old.

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vertolfan
Senior Heliman
Location: Bloomington, Illinois

Hello Elliot, I am confused by your post. You state that the Fenestron is only available with the EC120 but when you look at V-eastonline for purchasing information (I'm assuming this is the same kit you are selling) it is listed as an optional accessory. By the way is the price of 980 Eurodollars accurate?

01-30-2004 Over year old.

Elliot
Heliman
Location: Germany

Hi Vertolfan,

right, the fenestron is an option as you also could use a VARIO unit. But you will get it only, if you purchase an EC120, not as single product.

The price is correct.

Elliot

01-31-2004 Over year old.

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heliVoY
Veteran
Location: NJ

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But you will get it only, if you purchase an EC120

wow, that’s great marketing there ! really alienating the clientele ... i would have though of buying one myself for the Vario EC-135 .... oh well ... not everyone will want to get the ec120 .....

Wojtek

01-31-2004 Over year old.

optikaman
Veteran
Location: EnglishTown N.J.

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By the way is the price of 980 Eurodollars accurate?

Elliot is that pricing correct? Are you smoking the German version of CRACK.......... Talk about pricing yourself out of the market

the Vario unit sell for around 300.00 what makes you think you will sell any of them?

Based on the price of the tail unit what will the EC120 cost?

Alan...

01-31-2004 Over year old.

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