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Off Topics > Do you use a governor?
 
 
Alistair
Key Veteran
Location: no where land

you twit. i just said you can lug any heli regardless of a governor or not.

you just said your head speed NEVER changes. so how could you watch it lug? hmmmm

daft? yes.
12-06-2003 06:45 AM
 
 
Vertical Limit
Senior Heliman
Location: Pennsylvania

Ok, you need to step back and smell the roses.

With a Gov. I take off at 1700, I idle up to 1900 and when I land I am at 1900.

In the course of the flight my RPM does not change more than 50 RPM now matter what I do with the sticks.

Oh watch the twit statement I just got done reading abunch of your witless posts.
12-06-2003 06:54 AM
 
 
Alistair
Key Veteran
Location: no where land

you're full of ****.

i would love to see your heli fly... go full deflection on both sticks, and not lug one bit. if if only lugs 50 rpm my hat will be off to you.

my hat is not coming off
12-06-2003 06:58 AM
 
 
Alistair
Key Veteran
Location: no where land

i do not care what you may think of anything that i have said.........

you are still wrong.
12-06-2003 06:58 AM
 
 
Alistair
Key Veteran
Location: no where land

and what in the blazes does landing at 1900 have to do with anything.

of course it will be at 1900 when you land.... that is if you set it to 1900. the only reason it would be at 1900 is if you autorotated in or were in normal etc.

lol
12-06-2003 07:00 AM
 
 
Vertical Limit
Senior Heliman
Location: Pennsylvania

Ok, come on over jack#@$ and watch, don't foget your hat, maybe you better bring enough to keep taking them off,

And if you want I can help set up your heli with a Gov for you.
12-06-2003 07:02 AM
 
 
Vertical Limit
Senior Heliman
Location: Pennsylvania

I would like to see an auto land at 1900, my hats off to them then. I was simply stating a flight timeline with RPM for simple minded folks.

You do realise that in an auto you bleed your headspeed when coming down right?
12-06-2003 07:05 AM
 
 
Freya
Senior Heliman
Location: Seattle, Washington

No matter what you say, The only thing that would keep your rotor speed within 50 Rpm's is perfect piloting. I dont care if you are mixing or using a governor. The best you can do is get the best setup and you still have to be able to fly the maneuver. Neither mixing or governors make up for a bad pilot. If you put in too much pitch wether it be collective or cyclic your engine cant keep up.

Unless you have that new V-8 heli engine, 220 hp.
12-06-2003 07:17 AM
 
 
Alistair
Key Veteran
Location: no where land

my point exactly... thank you Freya

no one said anything 'bout landing autos at 1900.

you must be governor king to have absolutely no lug no matter what. i'm amazed... really i am.
12-06-2003 07:54 AM
 
 
brian chan
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

response time is slow

I have used GV1 before but now remove it from my raptor 50
Governor response time is slow. One example, I hovered the raptor in the direction with wind coming from the head to the heli tail. Switch on the Governor and without giving any input to the pitch, the heli will raise and down just like you giving input to it. By the tx switching off the GV1, the heli will remain stationary in the air, hovering just fine.
12-06-2003 09:22 AM
 
 
Drunk Monk
rrProfessor
Location: Preston, UK

I agree with Adrian, I've got a GV-1 on my rappy 50 and it works very well. I could fly my 50 just as well without the gv-1 but I like the powered descents and even with the perfect pitch curve the engine still overspeeds (without the gv-1). Bang the governer on and no probs. I run +/- 10 degrees and it only bogs down slightly when I do fast take offs with alot of elevator but even with the gov off it still does it. I can't do piro flips but I can do flips all day long with no probs, and powered descent are really sweet.

Most people I know don't know how to setup mixing good enough to match a gov or don't want to spend all that time messing around with the settings then testing then retweaking then testing again......... At least if you do use a GV-1 it's setup very quickly and just works. You do need to set the curves right anyway just incase of a problem with the gov, llike the sensor drops off.

Mine uses a standard sanwa 102 servo, crap, but it does work although when hovering in the wind it does alter height alittle. There is a small delay in the speed of the gv-1 (I think .22) so it would better with a faster and more precise servo. When big changes are needed the servo opens up no problems but on the little finer changes I think these standard servos just aren't precise enough.

That's just my opinion, I'm just putting the flame suit on


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....
12-06-2003 11:21 AM
 
 
Alistair
Key Veteran
Location: no where land

it does not take long to set up your curves if you know how.

you do not over-speed without a governor when you use the correct pipe.
or just don't go to full pitch (-/+ depending on the attitude of the heli) and you can still do a "power descent."

someone should tell Henery and Curtis that they can't do "power descents."

main advantage of a governor is the set up time. and the fact that you don't need to make nice clean curves.
12-06-2003 11:29 AM
 
 
Drunk Monk
rrProfessor
Location: Preston, UK

I like to do very fast powered descents without overspeeding, it wouldn't matter if my pitch curves where perfect or not i'd still overspeed. Why should I use less pitch? I want to come down that fast not slower. A gov stops the overspeeding.

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someone should tell Henery and Curtis that they can't do "power descents."


Why? I'm pretty sure they use gov's on their birds, even if they didn't there is nothing wrong with overspeeding on a powered descent as long as the rpm doesn't get too high. I personally dont like it so I use a gov problem solved.


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....
12-06-2003 11:53 AM
 
 
Vinnie
Senior Heliman
Location: Miami Beach, Florida

STOP IT

Listen kids, please cut this bull**** right now!

Overspeeding, underspeeding, speedballing, swashbuckle mixers, whatever, I really don't give a crap, because without a governor you are missing a very cool looking LCD display with numbers, an uber-cool plastic pencil that clips on to your transmitter, and a built in volt meter with max RPM display and lots of tweakable stuff (not to mention the possibility for in-flight mixture curves).
12-06-2003 12:13 PM
 
 
Raptor Rulezzz
Key Veteran
Location: Rockanje, Zuid-Holland - The Netherlands

I AGREE WITH VINNIE

And the gv-1 make`s life easy.... it`s to short anyway...

I don`t have time to spend all afternoon tweaking my curves...I wanna go out and FLY!!!!


Cheers,

Rich



Proud Member of Team QuickUK, Team Duralite & Sponsored by V-blades & 4rc.nl
12-06-2003 12:22 PM
 
 
Alistair
Key Veteran
Location: no where land

curtis and henry do not use one.

less pitch in the descent... my thought is that since it would overspeed slightly(perhaps) use less pitch to stop the overspeed.. or at least minimize it. since the head speed would be higher, the descent rate would be the same.

the tuned pipe will stop the engine from overspeeding.

no bull**** mate. this was 'bout governor or no governor.
12-06-2003 12:43 PM
 
 
Alistair
Key Veteran
Location: no where land

ummmmmmmmm.. why would it take you all afternoon to tweak your curves???????

the 601 comes with the neat little pencil thing that clips on to your radio. i've also got mine from my gv-1. so i can clip them all over the radio
12-06-2003 12:45 PM
 
 
Hotwings
Key Veteran
Location: Florida, Port Charlotte and West Palm Bch.

come on guys, it's just a hobby! if you want to use the gov, use it, if not, don't. period, no one wins in a pi$$ing contest. i enjoy the gov's in my heli's and my buddy doesn't! so what. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all. c-ya Ron

Please cancel my clearance, I have the field in sight.
12-06-2003 02:30 PM
 
 
Vertical Limit
Senior Heliman
Location: Pennsylvania

Merry Christmas to all,

I would like to apologize because I assumed that ALISTAIR could and knew how to fly and manuver with pitch managment, I was wrong.

I like my Gov. when I go full neg pitch 11 and the motor doesnt overspeed and the RPM stays constant. I think the Gov must be magical,

No its just doing what it was designed to do.
12-06-2003 03:51 PM
 
 
brian chan
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

My previous sensor reading is 97% which is the maxmium reading I had before. It was very easy to get that reading.

I agree that a governor will help and stop overspeeding when descend. I don't know how to do 3d flying. I just fly figure 8 only right now. In forward flight, I cannot see the slow response time aspect of the governor. It is only in hovering especially with incoming wind condition, I will notice the governor is functioning, it reduces throttle and increases the throttle to combat with the wind causing cannot hover stablely. However, if I simply switch off the governor (at once through the tx), the heli will be very stable although with incoming wind. May be my Raptor 50 was very heavy at that time. (about 9 pounds).

Now, without the governor, the cables arrange is better now. Perhaps, there is no enough space for Raptor 50 to have a governor.
12-06-2003 05:03 PM
 
 
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