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New & Emerging R/C Helicopters > Cypher 50 EX Kit Review

G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

Okay its arrived...

First pics here

Box Looks Okay

As does the packaging and contents

And yes thats a glass canopy!!!

More to follow

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11-18-2003 Over year old.

Darren Bradley
Veteran
Location: UK

You spend to much time at home m8

11-18-2003 Over year old.

Rappy_Chappy
Senior Heliman
Location: Scotland

Cool Slippers

11-18-2003 Over year old.

DOKEY
rrProfessor
Location: Northampton UK

Come on Mark, you should have the pics of it all built and finished by now, or are you still drooling over it !!!!!!

Check the gallery!

11-18-2003 Over year old.

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G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

More pics coming, Just uploading them now...

The manual is dire and all in chinese, so had a few minor hiccups so far...

Going well tho...

Head Comes Ready assembled, no thrust bearings tho, looks like R50V1 thrust races will fit...

Fan drive belt is an O-Ring dont know how the hell I am gonna fit a governor magnet tho

Nice metal bearing blocks and substantial looking clutch

The ball raced cooling fan looks good...

More to come still uploading

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11-18-2003 Over year old.

Darren Bradley
Veteran
Location: UK

Mark

How much did it cost all in all ?

11-18-2003 Over year old.

G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

The kit and shipping etc came to $265 which is about £160

Anyway on with the pics

Building the upper frames

More assembly note the bearing holders are upside down, changed later..

Upper and lower frames partly completed

Upper and lower frames completed... Note the bolt in the end of the washout block, that runs in a slot on the mainshaft for driving the washout.

Main Problems encountered so far, With the OS50 insitu access to the bottom exhaust bolt is nigh on impossible...

The tank is not insluated from the frames by any rubber or plastic, I fear for its longevity.. Only time will tell.

More pics to come

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11-18-2003 Over year old.

G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

Electronics getting fitted now, ccpm push pull so the servo arms are parallel to the bellcranks..

Bit of bling here, metal centre headblock, metal flybar carrier, metal swash, metal washout... Poor quality blade holders, may well need to be upgraded if to be flown hard...

The tail assembly with possibly the weirdest linkage I have ever seen...

Reversed the tail blade grips to trailing edge control as the pitch range was all wrong for the torque...

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11-18-2003 Over year old.

BigD
Senior Heliman
Location: Dallas, GA

Can't wait to see flight pics and here how well it does, everything looks really nice for the price so far

11-18-2003 Over year old.

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johnboy
Veteran
Location: South Lincolnshire nr Peterborough UK

could you fit the gov mags on the top of the clutch bell for a change,drill into it a bit... and mount the sensor from the top frames upside down.....or is this a stupid idea

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11-18-2003 Over year old.

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G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

Johnboy

that might work, at present I am looking at mounting the sensor horizontally and drilling into the side of the fan drive boss....

Anyway, the bird is finished so time to go through a few likes and dislikes so far...

Likes:-

Fan is nice and solid, and the whole mechanics are also nice and solid.
Metal Tail Boom Clamp standard
Carbon Boom Supports Standard
Metal Swash
Metal Washout with clips to retain the pins
Metal Flybar Control Arms
Stainless Steel Pushrods all round
Fully Ballraced
+10 to -10 easily achieved with minimal fuss.
Glass Canopy
Very smooth Tail Pushrod
Main and Header tanks inside frames
Skid Rubbers Included
Nice Blue Anodised Skids
Tuf-Strutt style undercarriage
Servo mount for Mixture Servo

Dislikes:-

Chinese Manual with poor Pictures (have to refer to exploded diagrams at back all the time)
No instructions for servo mounting and pushrod lengths
Tail Pitch Control mechanism is just plain weird...

Tank Mounts Doubtful on longevity..
Did I mention the poor manual

No Provision for Governor Magnets.
No Spragg for Autos

And here is the final article...

I think she is quite attractive... If it flies as well as a Hawk/Shuttle etc then it could be the bargain of the century... but wait, its a 50 not a 30...

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11-18-2003 Over year old.

Torkroll
Senior Heliman
Location: Bakersfield Ca

CY50

You could go with an optical GV sensor.

It has an auto bearing ?
Does it seem to have a driven tail for autos?

Mainshaft is 8 ? 10 ? 12 mm?

Thanks,
Jerry

11-19-2003 Over year old.

Buzzin Brian
Elite Veteran
Location: College Station, Texas

What are the frames made out of?

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

11-19-2003 Over year old.

Isaac F
Key Veteran
Location: Panama Republic of Panama

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I've seen that type T/R pitch change somewhere in the past..just cannot remember where.

I think I saw a similar T/R pitch change one on a Kavan Lunch Box Aluminum frame Jet Ranger.

But this one look better. Maybe this set up prevent happening the problem the Falcon/Raven 50 experience on the Tail that made the blade holder touch the plastic case and explode everything.

I think for what I have saw here is a very good deal.

Galifrey, congratulantion on your fast review.

Isaac

11-19-2003 Over year old.

Fisherman
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

I had fly it generally in Hong Kong.

I feel the plane is not very stabile, this may be caused by the plastic control arm is not strong enough or may be we need more time to understand the set up of the plane.

For outlook and price, it is very acceptable.

As i am not a Smart 3D plot, so I can not comment on this stage.

Do any one have experience of flying this?

11-19-2003 Over year old.

rappyfly
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto, ONT

Galifrey

Thai is kyosho, raptor and ergo hybrid. hope you like it.

11-19-2003 Over year old.

Greg Faust
Senior Heliman
Location: Northern VA, USA

it appears that the balance is between maximum performance and minimum crash cost. A lot of the bling is stuff that tends not to break if a blade hits the frozen tundra. The video on the website is just plane old nuts. Almost like a helicopter comedy of the three stooges.

11-19-2003 Over year old.

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G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

Brian

Frames are Anodised aluminium

Torkroll

It doesnt have an auto bearing, so it does have a driven tail it is thought that JR#60001 will fit it, just awaiting confirmation

Mainshaft is 10mm

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11-19-2003 Over year old.

trey3670
Senior Heliman
Location: colorado way up north

from where did you buy it?

the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants

11-19-2003 Over year old.

G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

Cyberheli are the only stockist at present..

$200

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11-19-2003 Over year old.

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