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Main Discussion > First ever flight, First ever crash
 
 
RCopter
Heliman
Location: Tampa, FL

Well just like the topic title says i am 1 and 1. 1 flight= 1 crash. I was at my first ever fun-fly (the Brandon Modelers heli fun fly) today and someone had a Raptor 30 with a buddy box setup. The LHs owned it and anyone that wanted to fly it could. The R30 is exactly what i want for my first heli so i thought that this would be great to see how it really feels to hover. So with no experience other than RC StuntCopter for Playstation, i am handed the controls. It took me a minute or two to get used to it, but i feel i was doing pretty good. I was beginning to get a feel for it. I kept moving the heli away from me but after they readjusted the trims i was fine. But anyways i was hovering it and it began to get a little to high (only about 10 feet) so i pulled the collective down a little bit and before i knew it WHAMMM! Boom Strike . Blades, boom, boom supports, both fins, tail rotor shaft, and maybe some other stuff. The heli had rotopod training gear and all of the guys couldnt belive that the blades actually hit the boom because it really didnt hit that hard. But anyways, long story short my first real heli experience was a disaster and now im kinda scared to get one, though I'm sure i will and i really hope that i win the raptor in the raffle. Well, i realize that my post has gotten kinda long so ill stop. Just had to share the news. Ohh i also got to see a turbine heli fly today and that was pretty cool.
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
RCopter
Heliman
Location: Tampa, FL

Man RCopter i just read your post and i feel your pain. Dont be intimated by one crash and dont listen to your girlfriend. Helis arent a waste of money! Ohh and good luck winning that Raptor.
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
BladeRunner
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario Canada. Member of "some sort" s

Flight?

Topdogg, you're just jealous cause all those voices in his head only talk to him.
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Lwnemesis
Senior Heliman
Location: Seattle, WA

lol
03-17-2002 Over year old.
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ry_goody
Heliman
Location: Tigard, OR

lol, whats up with that reply to yourself?!?
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Looks like he's really trying hard to talk himself into it. OR he's a troll that has dual RunRyder ID's and just forgot that he was signed on as him self. HAHAHAHA...

What a bone head...

RCopter wrote:
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Man RCopter i just read your post and i feel your pain. Dont be intimated by one crash and dont listen to your girlfriend. Helis arent a waste of money! Ohh and good luck winning that Raptor.

Ken B
03-17-2002 Over year old.
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Rotor
Key Veteran
Location: USA

Hey guys! It's his "Alter-Ego" thought we all had one......heheh............

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
crosby
Heliman
Location: Iowa City, Iowa

Fret not RCopter, a first flight is just a taste, don't be intimidated by a single crash. Did you not find out that the $500+ bird had less than $120 damage? And some pre-flight training on Playstation won't really get you THAT ready to fly. Have you tried a real simulator yet? Don't let a single crash color your impression of heli's....


Remember; It always seems darkest before going totally black.
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
EChapkis
Veteran
Location: Tampa, FL

crash

I was there yesterday and watched it happen. The trainer was Rolando Perez, and he was the guy who got me into choppers. My first 2 heli flights were on that same Raptor and training gear.

I have seen that Raptor hit the ground hard on the Rotopod (60 size) and no damage. It will be back in the air soon.

Evan Chapkis Tampa, Florida
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
RCopter
Heliman
Location: Tampa, FL

Reply to myself

Thats was just a joke. But yeah the whole crash thing kinda traumatized me. Ohh well, i'll prolly still get one. Hopefully in an hour and twenty minutes my phone will be ringing and someone will tell me thatg ive won the raptor that was in the raffle!
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

I have given some thought to putting my r30 on a buddy box. To help others but mostly to see if I could handle it. Two things have held me back. One is that if I could be effective enough as a teacher. There are some skills required for teaching that are beyond just knowing how to fly. The other is that if I am slow to react and allow a crash, it might negatively affect the student. Both could do more harm than good. I tell anyone who wants to learn to get a good sim. That way, not only can they learn to fly but they can also ask themselves questions like "what happens if I do this" and get an effective answer. Then I tell them to get with a pilot before they fire up the real heli. It seems like pretty safe advice.
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
gforce
Veteran
Location: Jacksonville FL

And like the old adage says, if you get bucked off the horse, get right back on and ride it twice as hard. Just be glad that your first crash was with some one elses heli. To present day I have had two total crashes, (and when I say total crashes, I mean total crashes) and two tip overs. And I am glad I went through them and got right back on. Yes it was expensive, but now I have experience, and that only comes in the doing of it. And being afraid of crashing takes all the fun out of this hobby. Learn on the sim first, find someone to help, and pracitice, practice, practice, practice. Remember every heli pilot started with no experience.
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
MrjSeven
Heliman
Location: Ridgecrest, CA

Hey RCopter....

If you have anything more than a passing interest in RC heli's "just do it". Yeah it'll get expensive, no matter how much sim time, flight time and experience you aquire. I bought my first heli (an old GMP 300C) in 1984, right before joining USN, and by the time I got around to finishing it and learning to hover, GMP had been gone for almost 10 years. I learned to hover on that, and had to do minor rebuilding a few times (difficult with an out of production heli) before picking up a used Nexus at a local shop in Virginia Beach VA in 1997. Progressed a bit before heading out on the boat again (took my CSM sim with me!) and started actual circuits when I got to San Diego. I take quite a bit of time off between flying so I haven't progressed nearly to where I should be by now, but I'm not sorry, it's always fun! In the laink st year I've taken off from flying, I've gone from being the only local (Ridgecrest CA) flyer to there being 3-4 new (actually long time fixed wingers) heli flyers. They think I'm the man for hovering in the gusty winds out here in the desert, but they are doing loops, auto's etc, and they've only been flying 5-6 months. Looks like I need to take my own advise huh?!

The thing that keeps me from getting disheartened when the occasional crash happens, is that most of these fellows here own heli's with engines if not blades that cost more than a whole new Nexus kit, so I don't feel bad when I dump my cheapie plastic heli compared to what they have to replace.

Like gforce said crashing is part of flying (sooner or later) only 2 options, give up, or get back on and go for it.

Geez, that was a long winded post that in a nutshell just said,
Do it, you won't be sorry!

Jerry

JB
Century Hawk Pro, Kyosho Nexus(RIP), Helimax Axe CP, GMP Hughes 300c
03-18-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Buzzin Brian
Elite Veteran
Location: College Station, Texas

Don feel to bad, these things happen. It happened at our field today. A guy that is new to helis was on his first flight ever and wound up wadding his heli up in a ball. I felt really bad for the guy to. He is a nice guy. And his Scedue is nice as well. And rather than getting discoraged he simply said he would have it back at the field next weekend ready to try again. His heli took one hell of a beating, but his spirit didn't. Keep at it. It will come to you soon enough. But I will say that stuntcopter is no sim by far. Get a real sim to practice with and you will see/feel the difference.

Keep at it!

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.
03-18-2002 Over year old.
 
 
gforce
Veteran
Location: Jacksonville FL

Speaking of good simulators, I have the csm v10 and like it. But I am wondering if there is a better one. Does anybody have a favorite, and why is it your favorite.
03-18-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Buzzin Brian
Elite Veteran
Location: College Station, Texas

Most guys use the RealFlight G2. But if you already have the V10 then stay with it. It is a great sim. Just not the video game graphics that the G2 has. But IMPO graphics is not what it is realy about. I do have the G2 and I love it, but if I had the V10 I wouldn't get rid of it just for better graphics. But that is just me.

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.
03-18-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Taipan
Key Veteran
Location: Sydney, Australia

He's right. IMO, V10 has the best darn physics there is. I.e. it's the best sim that flies like the real thing. Pity about the graphics though. V10 physics with G2 graphics would be excellent.
03-18-2002 Over year old.
 
 
MooneyDriver
Veteran
Location: Kent, Ohio

SIMULATOR!!!

One cannot emphasize enough the effectiveness of the simulator!!! It has saved me LOTS of $$$$ and even more TIME!!!! It's a great confidence builder. My first real hover happened after ten hours on the sim. I felt I had made significant progress on the sim before I flew the real thing. Actually the real thing seemed a little easier than the simulator. Most important was my confidence. I've been able to tweek the sim settings to more realistically simulate my own helicopter. (Primarilly collective control).

Get back on the horse and buy a raptor!!! (and a 'real' simulator!)

-Neil

Hey man, why does my lipo get bigger every time I charge it?
03-18-2002 Over year old.
 
 
321
Senior Heliman
Location: FL

03-19-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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