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Beginners Corner > Beginner with Concept 30 SR-T looking for setup advice.
 
 
FSFirst
Heliman
Location: Auburn Hills, Michigan

I'm a beginner that just purchased a Kyosho Concept 30 SR-T with a Futaba Skyport 6H (FP-T6VH) receiver. This heli is still brand new and I think it was made in '94. Does anyone know? It was assembled from a kit by a friend of mine's dad that passed away and has never even been started. I'm going to go through it very thoroughly but was looking for anyone with experience with this particular model.

It has the following components:
Engine: 0.32 SX-H OS Max
Gyro: Futaba FPG154 rate gyro
Servos: Futaba FP-S148
Receiver: Futaba FP-R127DF, FM, 7 chnl

I plan on being patient and learning slowly. I've been looking at "helibuf and helifever.com" for beginner advise and they've been very informative so far. Any other sites that are great for beginners?
03-15-2002 Over year old.
 
 
JCadwell
Key Veteran
Location: Richland WA/ Morro Bay, CA

First off, find a lake, and throw that gyro in it.

Get some local help. Drive as far as you need to in order to get that help. The initial setup of your helicopter by someone that knows what they are doing is priceless.

Buy new batteries for the Transmitter (TX) and Reciever (RX). The old ones are probably shot.

Learning to fly with a good heading hold gyro is going to be easier. The mechanical gyro will probably work fine, but any new heading hold gyro is going to blow it out of the water. Heading hold just simplifies a lot of things, and makes flying easier. If you want to fly it with the mech gyro, go for it. It's a great way to learn, and you might be the better for it. It just might be harder.

Get a simulator. FMS (search for it) is a free simulator that you can use with your computer and you can build a transmitter cable to use your actual transmitter. Any money spent on a simulator WILL be saved in the long run. You can practice with no cost obligation from crashes. Good stuff.

Buy Ray's Authoritative Helicopter Manual, and read. Good luck.

Thanks, John Cadwell
03-15-2002 Over year old.
 
 
concept1
Key Veteran
Location: Youngstown, OH

I have a older concept and it will still perform great, keep the gyro you have for now unless you can afford a $200 gy401, don't buy another until you can afford the 401. the one you have is ok for now, it will be a while before you will will be flying, and you will learn better tail control with a medium rate gyro. sure the 401 will be much easyer but costly if you don't have unlimited cash flow, figure $100 in extra tailbooms and rotors, and tail rotors, buy them now, I learned by my self with no sim, you can too, but a sim is much better and worth the money. I would set the pitch too +2 to +9 for starters for the first week or tank or 2 of gas until you can hover. others will dissagree here but it will save some tail booms and rotors if you don't have a sim. when you get into trouble it is natrual to cut the throttle and if you have -2 or -3 pitch as setup requires the blades still spin and can be forced into the boom. but this should only be done until you can hover about 3 feet high, then change the setup to -2 to +9 pitch. read the forums on throttle / pitch setups here their are some recient ones that will help. take in all the advice and decide for your self which to go for. many here will condem the old concept 30, but parts are cheap and it will perform real well. discharge your batteries and check them they may be ok in the tx, but rx you should go for something like a 2400mah or 1700mah.
good luck
JOn
03-15-2002 Over year old.
 
 
concept1
Key Veteran
Location: Youngstown, OH

also forgot to mention patients, don't expect to go out and fly in a week, it may be a week before you can even get off the ground. if you have no help expect it to tak a long time. but man the first hover you will remember
03-15-2002 Over year old.
 
 
FSFirst
Heliman
Location: Auburn Hills, Michigan

Thanks for the info.

I've found a local heli club here in Michigan, Whirlybirds, and I'm going to try to hook up with someone there for the setup. I aslo have a book by Paul Tradelius, " The Basics of RC Helicopters". Its also '94ish but the basic concepts are there.

I think I'll keep this old gyro for now and replace the batteries as suggested.

Today I went thru the servo adjustments for setup and I still need to check the rotors for balance.

I was wondering about the clutch. If it had the liner glued in 8 years ago and was never used should it be replaced? I'm thinking it may have dried out.
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
JCadwell
Key Veteran
Location: Richland WA/ Morro Bay, CA

I would try and use the clutch. Epoxy doesn't "age" in a way that would make me concerned. Plenty of Boeing airplanes flying around with epoxied composite panels. As long as it was done right at the beginning with epoxy, and the clearances are correct, it should be fine.

Thanks, John Cadwell
03-17-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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