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Main Discussion > Gary Wright goes to Miniature
 
 
Dave_D
Key Veteran
Location: Philippines

Ha ha ha... rubbermaid helo.... bounces when you crash... b3d capable... HEY!!! I WANT ONE!!!
03-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Dave_D
Key Veteran
Location: Philippines

Hmmm... "Basura" is trash in my native tongue.
03-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Blair
Key Veteran
Location: Republic of Canuckistan

Ooooooohhhhh!

When will the 91 equipped Extreme version be available? Do I have to sign a waiver to fly it too?

Blair
03-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
casper
Heliman
Location: Fountain Valley, CA

seriously, I think the heli that most people buy are the ones with a good price to performance ratio. The reason i think the raptor blew up is because it was cheap, very capable, and simple. Now the fury is popular for its performance to price ratio. when people look at the Fury, Freya, and Raptor60 they look for which one has the most capability and most pretty parts.
03-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
JeepCJ
Key Veteran
Location: Pennellville NY (Syracuse Heli Group)

GW

I hear that Rubbermaid already has come out with some aluminum, and carbon upgrades for it.



Bob
03-13-2002 Over year old.
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erikmort
Heliman
Location: Logan, UT

fury

So I want to know more about this fury, where is there a page i can check it out?
03-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
ZZ3Astro
Senior Heliman
Location: Panama City, Fl

SoCalDoug,

I think you're right in the case of the Freya. I think you're only 50% right in the case of the Fury. There will always be some sales to those who believe it is mostly the machine doing the cool stuff they see at funflys.. but the Fury sold itself to me before I even saw it fly.. before there were sponsored pilots for it. Still, I didn't run out and buy one. It has been 349 days since I first touched a Fury at Bham 2001. I still don't own one!

The Freya on the other hand never reached out and grabbed me. I could care less about who is flying what until whatever they are flying explodes.. that always makes for a good discussion!

Also SoCal, I think you forgot one more heli on your junk list.. PH....shhhhhhh

Steve
03-13-2002 Over year old.
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gwright
Senior Heliman
Location: Melbourne, Fl

so what was meant by that jeepcj?
03-13-2002 Over year old.
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DanW
Senior Heliman
Location: Baldwyn, Mississippi

Word of Mouth

I believe if you back up and look at the time line of when some of the big dogs were signed with MA that there was aready a waiting list as long as Texas for Fury's. I believe that most of the people that are drawn to our hobby are smart well educated critical thinkers who set down and look at quality/performance vs dollars. I bought a Fury as soon as it came out before any of the well known pilots were touring with them. If you look at what has created the most hype about the Fury you will see that it has been word of mouth from people like me who own them! MA has not spent a drop in the bucket to push the Fury compared to other manufacturers it has sold itself because of it's price and performance. I'm very glad that MA has assembled the quality team that is has, but I don't think that MA is going to be better because of it. I think the Top Pilots will be better because of it!

Dan
03-13-2002 Over year old.
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miataguy
Veteran
Location: Santa Barbara, CA

Another aspect about what the big dogs are flying is information flow. I know I enjoy talking with all of them and gleaning whatever kernels of knowledge I can from them. Obviously, they're going to be most knowledgeable about the machines they're currently flying.

Official RunRyder Googlewhacker!
03-13-2002 Over year old.
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SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

My source, which I keep secret because it is hard enough to get through without hitting a busy signal already, gives the Fury two thumbs up. I do get a little nervous about reps because I start asking if there is a reason why the product can't stand on its own. I didn't know of any reps for Hirobo until I placed my order. I know they have several. But I'll admit I can be influenced a little by reps, guys at my field, and the web. It is good to see a product perform before you buy it. You don't often get to test drive one first. Just make sure they fly a stock one. But I agree cost is an overriding factor for a sport machine in my opinion. But I am not likely to give much praise to any kit I buy. There is always room to improve it. I do like the Basura 60 because it has everything you need when it 'lawn darts' already installed.
03-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Zxyxx
Senior Heliman
Location: Anaheim

Advantage of having the Top Dogs

The best thing that MA has done since introducing the Fury is to listen to the feedback from Jason K, Todd B and other reps (Dab H included). These guys know helis. They push the hell out of these helis and and report back to their "employer" problem areas. MA has fixed many problems (or potential problems) without raising the price of the kits much. Through the efforts of the Top Dogs MA has a better product than at its introduction. Gary Wright will add to the information flow.

Also, I believe that MA has advertised less than any other manufacturer. The Fury is selling on word of mouth and more importantly, sight. The Top Dog wring it out at a fun-fly and people say "Damn, look what the heli is capable of with a .60". Moreover, the heli is priced right.
03-13-2002 Over year old.
 
 
steve9534
Key Veteran
Location: yakima, wa.

Heli hype

I'm with Zyxx on this one, the best pilots can stress the helis in ways that an ordinary mortal never will. The result is that the weak points show up early in the design process and get weeded out rather than linger on to be sorted out by the Beta testers (the buyers). I don't really care what the top guys fly, but the fact they have been flying them makes me think that at least the helis have had a good workout and are likely to hold together in my hands. Steve.
03-14-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Maxx
Key Veteran
Location: Shreveport Louisana

I think I'll wait to see the Carbon Version...G-10 used in anything on a model Helicopter leaves me out...too many bad vibration memories! Don't like it...won't buy it! This is my personal opinion. Remember that Reps have access to parts and are (for the most part, at least) more concerned with keeping their bird in top shape; they don't want their XYZ coming apart at a Fun Fly after all...they will replace a worn part when they see a failure node...most everyone else not in the loop must re-build AFTER the failure! I flew a Fury and it flew Great...but my helis fly Great too...and I kinda' like having a different machine than most folks...(and right now; the Futura qualifies in that regard) Don't get me wrong, if you fly M/A (and I did for 7 years) birds good for you, I know you'll have a ball with them, however, I still prefer my Robbes...
P.S. Not Sponsered, just haven't seen anything better! Chris
03-14-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Chopper
Key Veteran
Location: Stow,Oh- oops, I mean St Louis, nope Stow again

Welcome aboard Gary. You are going to have to sit next to Larry at the next get together. It's kind of like your initiation. ;-)

Paul
03-14-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Steve Campbell
Elite Veteran
Location: Baton Rouge, LA

<<...too bad Robbe doesn't think this way...>>

No kidding. MA is responsive to what we want; the Germans provide what they think we should have.

Oldfart, while your premise that foreign machines are at a price disadvantage due to trade tariffs, etc., has merit, if you knew what the profit margins are on some of these machines you would probably change your mind.

The fact that a certain heavily-hyped machine has come down nearly $300 in price since it's introduction is a big clue here...

Steve
03-14-2002 Over year old.
 
 
gwright
Senior Heliman
Location: Melbourne, Fl

Paul, if I'm forced to be in the same zip-code as has-been, you will need an ENT on hand to extract my foot, as it will be that far up his rear.
03-15-2002 Over year old.
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Lapointe
Senior Heliman
Location: Enumclaw, Wash

Fury

Old fart you forgot that There is a west coast distributor now. his name is todd bennett. As far as jeep goes Gary W I don't think that remark was ment towards you. It's kind of sad to see most of the top dogs flyin for one Manufacturer but who cares I would watch them fly anything.
I think the Fury extreme will be priced higher when the Freya will support the 60 size motors as well as the 80's and 91's without beefing up anything. The only thing you have to change is the pinion. you see a lot of Fury 60's for sale on the list and I feel it's too bad they (min Air) didn't research these changes before bringing these heli's to market.
I'm glad I didn't buy one only to have to take a loss by having to buy all the upgrade parts to change it to Extreme level for the big motors or take it in the shorts because I had to sell it at a loss to buy a new Extreme! Anyway min air sure is riding a popularity wave now. I wonder who is gonna be the next big inovater in this hobby???
It's just a matter of time before someone else will come along and take over.

Keith Lapointe
03-15-2002 Over year old.
 
 
tim628
Heliman
Location: Cincinnati, OH

LaPointe

If you send the stock pinion, side plates, and I believe the engine mount (cant remeber if i sent that or not) back to MinAir they will send you the correct parts ones for an 80 or 90. I had mine sent back when I built mine. I believe that they charge nothing if you take the pinion out of the bearing and clutch bell. I had mine done there to make sure I didnt mess anything up and I think it cost around $20.

As far as the upgrades on the Extreme, they are nice, but certainly not necessary. You definately wouldnt have to sell your 60 to accomodate a bigger motor.

Score one more of MinAir's customer service.
03-15-2002 Over year old.
 
 
SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

This is just my theory and I might be 100% wrong in that I have not heard anyone say this:
Do you think the freya was designed as much to be a 60 as the sceadu was designed to be a 30? When I look at how easy the switch is, and the tail authority of the Freya I kinda wonder. It also seemed like all the reps flew bigger engines in them right off the bat and that Hirobo was well aware of the engines coming around the corner. I know mine will end up being a 91 and I am likely to stick my 60 into something a little lighter like a Fury.
03-15-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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