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RCHELIFANATIC
Senior Heliman
Location: TEXAS

I have been flying for a little more than a week. I was to the point where I had it trimmed, gyro was working great, and I was trying to set the limit on the gyro. I set it to the smallest throw and it still binded. I flew and HH would not work for crap so I set it back and thought leave it alone,"don't fix what isn't broken".
So I am messing around taking off, landing, hovering around all tail in.In that week I had about 20 or more flights only fill tank half way it leaks after that. Got bored after first gallon was almost gone so I was flaring my blades in a 1ft slow forward hover causing leaves to go through the blades and chopping them up,"I now realize looking back that was dumb" then even that was not enough and so I was chasing my dog around the yard at 10ft altatude and 5ft behind, would rather crash then hurt him but you should have seen him, he thought it was the spirit of killed chickens seeking revenge. He loves my parents chickens.
The dog ran away and so I just hovered down to 1ft and a bug landed on my shoulder and I just looked down and wiped off, then I looked up and the heli was slowly heading towards a hurricane fence, having the visualization of it mangled and hanging from the fence screaming , I pulled back and lifted, and it just threw stuff everywhere , and I hit throttle hold fast and thank god because it hit the battery about 10feet and could not kill the engine with radio, but it was at idle so just pulled fuel line.
I am not really sure what happened, it didn't hit the fence, I know the boom was hit a couple times with the blades bending it up and cracking the blades. I remember back before first flight that day and I remember seeing my blades not completely level like I should have tightened them, but it didn't send up a flag and I didn't think that it was bad enough to cause a boom strike. I had them pretty tight 15 flights previous and they would not fall when shaken once holding sideways.

I didn't test the blade tightness that day though. I had training gear on but the heli broke through the zip ties during the boom strike. I would like to hear any idea you think might have happened, so I can learn something from this besides don't act like a jack ass and chase your dog or try to get anything to go through your blades.

Do you think it was the binding tail rotor linkage, the tail gear box was thrown about 25 feet. Was it just a boom strike from pulling back.

I had previously tested 15 flights earlier the limit of the cyclic on the ground by spooling up and taking disk to all its limits and all was fine.

Do blades tend to loosen?

Thanks fo any of your ideas of what might have happened.






AMA 869729 Raptor 30v2
08-25-2003 Over year old.
 
 
JoeK
Heliman
Location: San Diego , CA

Excuse me

But maybe you don't know that a helicopter is not a toy , it can and will hurt something or some one if you crash into them, chasing your dog around the yard is not very bright. Maybe you should read the AMA's saftey regs before you fly again.

A dog owner and heli pilot.


Joe K
San Diego

BTW: I always check the Jesus bolts , the blade should be snug but not to tight in the holder, you should be able to fold them back without much effort. If the blades are too loose then you will get lead lag problems.

Raptor 50 V2 -- Freya 90 -- Dragon Flyer IV -- Hughes 500E 5 Blade -- Raptor 90
08-25-2003 Over year old.
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RCHELIFANATIC
Senior Heliman
Location: TEXAS

Can I please have some ideas from people on what went wrong?

Thanks

AMA 869729 Raptor 30v2
08-25-2003 Over year old.
 
 
m1ke1
Veteran
Location: New Salem, Massachusetts

#1 never ever take your eye off the Helicopter

When you are near the ground you will get ground efect which will cause the copter to wander a little.

As far as the blade bolts go I have never had a set loosen up.
08-25-2003 Over year old.
 
 
rckrzy1
Elite Veteran
Location: Hurst Texas

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Can I please have some ideas from people on what went wrong?


Flying without HELP. Get some and get out of the back yard, you need more than that when learing.



Wildcat Fuels
08-25-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Raffy
Key Veteran
Location: Chicago, Illinois

You opt to fly with problems with your heli and acted foolishly by flying around without any concern for safety.
You crashed and now we have to figure out what happened - It looks like you were bored that day!
08-25-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Eddi E. aus G.
Senior Heliman
Location: Gerlingen. Germany.

Maybe the tail rotor or tail fin hit the ground when you pulled back before collective got a grip. At 1 ft altitude you don't need much backward tilt to score a hit. Maybe your tail blades tell a story?

Nonono, I will not comment on chasing the dog, nope

Born to fly. Forced to work.
08-25-2003 Over year old.
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RCHELIFANATIC
Senior Heliman
Location: TEXAS

Thanks mike1 that sounds right about why it was going for the fence because it hovers hands off but that was at 5ft or more. I didn't know that ground effect caused wander.

I am pretty sure that the tail didn't touch but anything is possible. I have a plastic coat hanger neck zip stripped on to the vertical fin and it would have kept it from anything going wron I am pretty sure, plus my training gear is long and home made pvc. It alone almost keeps the tail from hitting anyway.

Thanks everyone, if anyone else has a comment, please don't hesitate.

AMA 869729 Raptor 30v2
08-25-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Greg Faust
Senior Heliman
Location: Northern VA, USA

never chase your dog!!! Are wou willing to gamble your dog's life that your glow plug won't burn out or whatever else might happen. Anyways, wood blades compress when they are new and have to be checked every flight.
08-25-2003 Over year old.
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Frequency47
Veteran
Location: Port Ewen, NY

What?????

Why don't you chase yourself around the yard and leave your dog alone!

You are not mature enough to be in this hobby, why don't you go to a hobbie that you can handle and not hurt other animals or people like, basket weaving, or nitting.

Chill on the pets man.

CEO Sub-Terrainian Aircraft Development Corp.
08-26-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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