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Gasser Model RC Helicopters > Bergen VS Vario Benzin
 
 
aashu
Veteran
Location: Garden State , NJ

A Bergan Shaft Drive VS BenzinC .

Pros and Cons?
Flight behaviour?
Durability ?

Please post

Proudly Flying in NJ, USA
08-08-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Malorie
Elite Veteran
Location: Paw squared, MI

PM DrTim here on RR. He has and does own both.

Life's a journey, NOT a destination.
08-10-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Makiedog
Senior Heliman
Location: Minneapolis

I have both...

the Bergen Gasser (G23, shaft drive) and the Benzin Trainer (G23). They both fly well.

Bergen:
Very high part count compared to Vario. Perhaps 25-30% more parts. Machined metal parts everywhere. Harder to build, but your patience will be rewarded by a precision machine with no control interaction, and no slop. I think the new ones come with fiberglass canopy but mine was Lexan, kind of cheezy for an expensive heli. G-10 frames. No main blades.

Vario:
Lowest part count gasser on the market. Very simple design, easy to build. Many plastic parts, including the head. Perfectly suited for scale application with the adjustable tail output height. CCPM. You have to build wooden servo tray, which is so 1980s. Comes with FB main & tail blades. Long tail and support assembly not as stiff as Bergen. Vario's version of the Zenoah engine is A LOT easier to pull and starts easier.

Pat L
08-11-2003 Over year old.
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Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

New Airstar CCPM frame.

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You have to build wooden servo tray, which is so 1980s.

Skyfox front RC tray.



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adjustable tail output height

???

Naomi
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aashu
Veteran
Location: Garden State , NJ

Heli_Gal

Is that a Benzin with Skyfox tray ?

Proudly Flying in NJ, USA
08-11-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

Yes. it is.

Naomi
08-11-2003 Over year old.
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Makiedog
Senior Heliman
Location: Minneapolis

What tray? The picture shows the air star CCPM side frames on which the servos are mounted directly. This is not an original Vario configuration, its the air star version.

The adjustable tail output height I referenced is for scale application in a fuselage such as a Huey. The output height is not adjustable in the pod & boom config.

Pat L
08-12-2003 Over year old.
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NaomiElite Veteran - Location: Ontario, Canada -
The new Benzin Acrobat frame..

is even better with fuel tank built into the frame.. Not air star frame.. from germany my hunch.


Naomi
08-12-2003 Over year old.
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Makiedog
Senior Heliman
Location: Minneapolis

Naomi,
I'm very interested in the new Acrobatic. Where can I find more info on this new machine? I heard its a lot bigger than the stock Benzin. Any specs? More pictures?

Pat L
08-20-2003 Over year old.
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Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

Check this out..

Pat.

VarioNut has one.. in Canada. and he has images and flight video

Enjoy

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t59440p1/

Naomi
08-20-2003 Over year old.
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Dr.Tim
Key Veteran
Location: Mojave Desert

Back on Subject !!

Both Shaft Drives are good ..... I prefer the Bergen for it's robust and slop free precision. Vario uses the Stainless Tube Drive and Bearings or the Carbon Shaft Drive. Both Drives work well so I really don't have much to say Pro or Con. As far as Part count ..... Bergen does have more but, Precision requires Bearings, Pullys and stiffness. It's like compairing a Nexus to a Pro 2k You get what you pay for ... Nothing Comes CHEAP! about the best advice I can give anyone is to explain Quality.

Quality is like buying Oats: If you want Nice, Frest, Clean oats, you must pay a fair price but, If your happy with Oats that have been through the Horse ....... It comes a little Cheaper !!

By the Way I have some Vario stuff I'm selling.

Dr.Tim

From Simple minds come simple ideas! Starwood Models, Approach Engineering
08-22-2003 Over year old.
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Malorie
Elite Veteran
Location: Paw squared, MI

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Oats that have been through the Horse


Isn't that a bunch of horse manuer!?!

LMAO

Life's a journey, NOT a destination.
08-22-2003 Over year old.
 
 
aashu
Veteran
Location: Garden State , NJ

Dr Tim

What are you sellin ? PLease let us know

Proudly Flying in NJ, USA
08-22-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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