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John Christense
Heliman
Location: Palm Beach, Florida

Dunno if any of you guys have seen these before and have any experience with them

www.eyetop.net

If they work, it seems like the perfect solution for a helicam operator.

I will be ordering a pair for test unless sombody else here has negative experience with the product.

Anyone?

JC
07-23-2003 Over year old.
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gpyros
Key Veteran
Location: On a beach in Mexico

Good idea, but at $700, a little pricey!

Greg

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07-23-2003 Over year old.
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grak
Heliman
Location: Nottingham UK

Eye Top Video Glasses

Hi There,

I agree with the last post, maybe a little pricey for what you get. Can I suggest you take a look at the Olympus Eye-Trek glasses. We use these over in the UK with no problems whatsoever.

There's always pairs of these on Ebay too!!

Happy Hunting.

Keith.
07-24-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

I got Olympus video gogles from Ebay for around US$200. Look for my post here. http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t32252p23/ I know you can't watch the heli while looking in the glasses but could easily remove one of the LCD displays. By the way, the eyetop has only one LCD and only 75000 pixels while the onlympus have 250000 pixels and two LCDs.
07-24-2003 Over year old.
 
 
FlightPower
Veteran
Location: Herts UK

Hi John Christense,

For my 2cts I think this is a good find.

Have you ordered a pair of these yet? I would be very interested to know about your expriences with them. Technically I agree with you regards "ideal for helicam ops", but I have no idea how well the brain will actually cope with receving two orientations at once on the same helicopter and I'd be fascinated to find the answer to this.

So much so that I have ordered the expesive hi-rez equivalent to the eyetop, the CV3 from Microoptical.net The same principle applies - i.e. the ability to see the heli as normal and also get an impression of what an onboard camera can see.

(I also have eyetrek glasses - but of course with these on you can't see squat apart from the video).

Please post your experiences!

Thx.

Julian
07-25-2003 Over year old.
 
 
MikeDD
Senior Heliman
Location: Elkhart, IN

Don't see that brand here, but you can compare others.
Link



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Michiana R/C Choppers
07-25-2003 Over year old.
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John Christense
Heliman
Location: Palm Beach, Florida

Video glasses

I liked the idea of the camera operator being able to see whats going on, and maybe make it a little more comfortable, instead of being hidden behind VR Glasses. however, the resolution may be too low. I have a set of Eye Top glasses ordered, so we will see how it works.

RE: Sony Glasstron and Olympus Eye Trek glasses. What model should I look for. There seems to be a number of different versions on Ebay for sale. The PLM A-35 seems to be the most popular. Is that the best one from Sony?

Thx

John Christensen
07-28-2003 Over year old.
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Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

I have the mid-range FMD-200. The better version is too expensive for just taking pictures. The video isn't as sharp as a TV set but it is certainly good for finding out where the camera is pointing.
07-28-2003 Over year old.
 
 
FlightPower
Veteran
Location: Herts UK

I also have the FMD-200 for the same reasons. It works just fine for the purpose of viewing the downlink, the cam op simply needs to get used to working safely when they can't see where they are walking - recommend a static position for the cam-op (beach chair) and a cheap walkie talkie link to the pilot to save on shouting. However my original intentions for the FMD-200 were to be able to transition to first-person-view flight. I have not found any way to be comfortable with that. Hence the move to the CV-3 that would let me see the heli and the video at the same time - which I am itching to try. Just wish the manufacturers would hurry up, it's been on order for nearly a month.

Julian.
07-29-2003 Over year old.
 
 
John Christense
Heliman
Location: Palm Beach, Florida

CV-3

CV-3??? What's that? Are you telling me that new and better stuff is arriving

Tech junkie wants to know.
07-29-2003 Over year old.
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John Christense
Heliman
Location: Palm Beach, Florida

Disregard previous post... Quick search on Google found the info. Now that's pretty expencive. And the specs are pretty close to the Eye Top product @ $650

JC





The CV-3 Video Viewer mounts on eyeglasses or safety eyewear and provides a monocular color full VGA image. It’s a full video rate product capable of full motion video at 60 frames per second. It has a quick mount and dismount system so that it can be easily attached and detached from the user’s eyewear. The CV-3 is a field changeable left or right eye viewer. The focal distance can be adjusted from 2 feet to infinity.

The CV-3 provides convenient controls for adjusting the contrast, brightness, tint, and color of the image. The miniature controls and battery are integrated in a lightweight, sleek system that is easily clipped to a belt or carried in a pocket. Operating time on a single charge is approximately 5 hours.

The pixel format of the CV-3 is 640 columns by 480 rows, and the color depth is 16 bit (65,536 colors). The CV-3 is compatible with most NTSC video sources and can be modified for PAL. Input to the CV-3 is through a conventional RCA connector - the same connector found on most cameras and video equipment or a BNC adaptor can be used.

The CV-3 Video Viewer includes the following accessories: UVEX safety eyewear, mounting kit for use with alternative eyewear, rechargeable Li ion battery, battery charger, optical cloth, user's manual, protective case for the controls (with belt clip) and carrying case. The suggested retail price of the CV-3 viewer is $2,150.
07-29-2003 Over year old.
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FlightPower
Veteran
Location: Herts UK

Quite...

The CV-3 is a beautiful looking piece of kit. Originally this stuff was developed with a US Military grant - which undoubtably translates to super-high quality workmanship, unfortunately it has also given the company a kind of customer-feel that it's never had to put it's house and car on the line for anything in its whole history - very frustrating to deal with. For me the CV-3 has the special advantage of being able to clip on my prescription glasses without having to reverse engineer anything, plus according to the company the CV-3 actually autodetects PAL or NTSC despite what it says above (the lower rez CV-1 needed modifying to recognise PAL). The price however is a stumbling block. Maybe a little competition from EyeTop will bring Microoptical into the real world where that's concerned - then we really will have access to an excellent choice of helicam viewing solutions - or at least that's my theory. When Microoptical pull their finger out and actually ship the product I purchased I'll be more than willing to report back.

Cheers
07-29-2003 Over year old.
 
 
ELOSSAM
Veteran
Location: Es

JC, have you received your topeye set?

Julian , any news about the CV-3?

Elossam
08-05-2003 Over year old.
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John Christense
Heliman
Location: Palm Beach, Florida

Eyetop

Hi Elossam,

No, the company is very hard to get a reply from. I found a dealer close by, and he is going to have them in stock next week. I am going to go to that store and try them out before spending the 650 bucks.

Bought a pair of Olympus Eye-treks of ebay to start out with. But still like the idea of only using one eye for video wieving. (My photographer claims he can get sea sick in a bathtub, so he is worried about the video goggles making him dizzy.

John Christensen

www.airshipamerica.com
08-05-2003 Over year old.
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FlightPower
Veteran
Location: Herts UK

Hi ELOSSAM,

I spoke with Microoptical yesterday - said they had a back-order of component parts and could not ship the CV-3. While I'm waiting they have agreed to ship the lower rez CV-1 on loan and this should arrive by UPS tomorrow.

If this is true, then testing can commence immediately weather permitting.

Glad you are OK, have the fires in Europe come near you??

Julian
08-06-2003 Over year old.
 
 
ELOSSAM
Veteran
Location: Es

Julian
Have not see the smoke but according to the weather temp close to 43ºC the fire must be close to me. How much cost this low resolution unit? has it the same specifications like the eye-top one?

Jhon, you should look for better prices insie de eye-top page. They have a launch offer about $400.

Elossam
08-06-2003 Over year old.
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FlightPowerVeteran - Location: Herts UK -
Well this arrived today by UPS, as promised.

And yes, it's unbelievably impressive (well it would be for $1,650 US).
- and the CV-3 that replaces it at $2K + is twice the resolution.

Just looking at Sky News with the bright window in the background the image is clear and colourful at the almost-top setting of the brightness control, at the very top of the brightness scale the image is changed to B&W for even higher contrast.



I wear spectacles bottom left in the image above, the unit comes supplied with some safety goggles that can be used if you don't have glasses of your own - personally I would knock the lenses out of the safety goggles. I can't really cope with contact lenses so the EyeTop is a bit of a non-starter for me.

Just trying to imagine controling the Heli and looking back and forth between the viewer and the sky, I think it will be ok - at least I think it won't be so distracting as to cause a crash. My greatest hope is that these things will enable a smooth transition to first person view flight.

I'll take it out after work for it's inaugural flight and report back.

Cheers


Julian
08-06-2003 Over year old.
 
 
flyboy
Elite Veteran
Location: California

Can't wait to hear back on your initial results.

I am in the market for something similar. Please let me know what you think of them, and details that might be relevant.
08-06-2003 Over year old.
 
 
John Christense
Heliman
Location: Palm Beach, Florida

CV-3

Julian,

I understand that you have to position the LCD in front of your dominant eye for it to work. Do you think it will cause problems flying the heli at the same time, since your dominant eye is the one you rely on for controlling the heli also?

JC
08-06-2003 Over year old.
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FlightPower
Veteran
Location: Herts UK

Hi JC

Simply put, I don't know - that's the big IF with all of this.

Basically I've laid out a substantial $$$ bet with this purchase. Actually it's not so much a purchase as paying my way into a contract with MicroOptical. I have an OEM development partnership and a distributorship with MicroOptical for helicam and related work. It also means that I can offer www.MicroOptical.net stuff at a reasonable i.e. 10-15% discount off their list if you guys are interested. Having said that, it's my personal belief that MicroOptical will have to move on these huge prices and get into volume production mode if these things are going to be taken up in any quantity - like yep it's the Rollex of video viewers, it's beautiful but almost totally unaffordable.

Naturally this is all dependent on wether or not this actually works.
I will know for sure in the next 3 hours.

Julian
08-06-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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