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Safety - RC Helis are not toys > is this a safety issue or am I over reacting
 
 
superstallion
Senior Heliman
Location: Jamaica, New York

I usually practice either of 3 local park around by me. I used which ever one that is not occupied. When I am in the park practicing and someone walk through the park to get to the other side I would hover my heli in a corner until they clear the field or I would used that opportunity to come in and refuel or make adjustment. I would not be flying around over there head. This is something that I am used to doing.
I didn't go to my local heli field since early last year. back then I was still a newbe just getting into FFF. One incident I had last year practicing circuits when the wind blew the heli into the flightline where the other modelers were, I recovered by adding a lot of cyclic to turn out causing the blades to make that weird noise (you know what I mean) making it more scarier for the modelers that it came near too. I was instructed to move more into the field which made sense, but now I was way in the middle of the field where the other modelers feel safe, but now I have the pro's flying over my head because I am in the middle of the field. I guess its ok if you are a pro. I am new to this less than 2 years under my belt.
Went to the field today to tune my weston pipe and watch the pro's do some 3d. I was way in the corner that is meant for beginner's, even far away from the newbe, when one of the pro expert was testing one of the newbe heli and flew it over my head twice, once is understandable maybe he didn't see me or it drifted in the corner, but twice, and I was way behind the flight line in a corner where I plan to set my engine to the new pipe and do a little hovering the corner. I guess it s ok when you are a pro.
After I got my engine running good enough to pick the heli up after 2 1/2 tanks I decide to pack up and leave to exit the park you have to walk across the park diagonaly, as I was walking out the park with my heli and fuel in one hand, field case in the other one of the pro's decide to do a auto over my head. He landed it and took it back up, I was concentrating on reaching the exit. I can hear the heli above me I didn't want to look up but I did and saw the heli inverted over me, it would have taken me a min to walk across the park. I guess its ok if you are a pro. I wanted to go to my local park but I decide to go tune my heli at the heli field and watch the expert so I could get motivation to progress from FFF.
I wonder if it was a hint?
07-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Obsessive
Key Veteran
Location: 41.73N 71.41W

"pro" or not, it is unsafe and inappropriate to fly over anyone's head. He's no pro, he's a moron.
07-13-2003 Over year old.
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helimechanic
Senior Heliman
Location: Surrey, England, UK.

No matter how good you are , or think you are, you cannot justify such dangerous flying. I would have made my feelings felt before I left. Imagine if that flyer had a mechanical problem?
I'd hate to think of the consequences to you.
Take care, and trust nobody!!
07-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Airman98
Key Veteran
Location: Southern Illinois

To many things can go wrong with a heli to fly over someones head. Pro or not everyone makes mistakes and crashes.
Tim
07-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
KevinDark2977
Heliman
Location: Reno, NV

Serious

Take a bat to the feild and hit his heli down next time he does that crap!
07-16-2003 Over year old.
 
 
MAH Blades
Senior Heliman
Location: NEW YORK

you agen

Basically Superstud your are Dead wrong...First of all You have the whole run Ryder membership feeling sorry for you while you chose to sit back and talk Garbage about Our field and Yes Even though you do not have the Balls to state who you are or even what field because of retaliation...Your 1000% Correct....if there is one thing we take very serious at our field is Safety and the lack of.. or individuals such as yourself or the so call general public. Give me a break...as stated in the above reply the field at Seaview is Strictly for Helis...so everyone knows the rules and We The so called "Pros" as you stated also look out for everyone...each other from newbie's to Experts, and yes we are the ones that make and enforce the rules...Especially when it comes to Flying over anyone's head or behind the flight line...If a beginner let his heli get away then it is understood as we all have been there, and we go over and encourage and offer advice and instruction to better learn to control and keep it in front of the flight line...Once-Twice- No Problem ....But a third time Your just Plain dangerous or ignorant..either is not appreciated...as for the Pros...we are especially hard on and Police ourselves, as there is no reasons or Excuses, Unless Mech Failure...But as for your comment of Walking across the field and Poor you someone flying over your head...What Kind of Sissy Mary S&%T Is that!...First I don't care who you are-beginner-experienced /Flyer or Guest- Cricket Player or spectator...Common sense...otherwise Known as "Intelligence" dictates that if you have a large field and there is FFF going on from one end to the other, Left to right a ship with very fast carbon baldes and 10+ Pounds doing 60-85mph, why in the ***Hell*** would you think it is OK to Cross over and walk directly through the Flight Path!..Only either an Idiot or someone who just doesn't have any consideration for others would say the Crap you want Guys to feel sorry for you here...Suggestion.Take your Ass & stuff and walk "Around" the outside diameter of the field....or at best WAIT until no-one is Flying. Here is a New Concept....Have consideration for your fellow pilots and yes the so called Pros you make mention and put blame on, as one day you may be a Pro....I for one can promise you for as sure as the Sun Rises..If you ever get to that point and your Flying fast inverted across the field. at 10 feet off the Deck..The last thing you would appreciate seeing as you track your Fury 90 Exteme or X-Spec coming in Low and fast, is some individual 10 feet infront of you walking towards you because they were to lazy to walk around or had the I don't give a S&$T attitude as it seems from your post you have...And for all you guys out there ready to jump on me as for being to hard...Hell you are Right...we have the "Only Sanctioned AMA & NYC field dedicated to Helis" in a city were space is precious and Permits Rare WE have that and take pride in because...we Police our own...we encourage newcomers and Do Not Take BullS&$T Games , and as traditional NYers especially Brooklynites..If you have a problem stand up and bring it to the attention of the powers that be... Hiding and talking garbage especially leaving out the Whole story. behind a screenname ...That Kind of Garbage we do not appreciate and will not tolerate at OUR Field. OH-PS I would also Be More than Happy to Explain the Rules and go over them with you, If You have a Problem That also.... Face to Face if you like anytime....

CRASH & BURN
07-18-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Obsessive
Key Veteran
Location: 41.73N 71.41W

Ok,

Now it sounds like some of us have been hoodwinked into backing one side without hearing from the other.

The good news is, it's been so one-sided that the "other" story is now out there for all to see.

Not the first time I've seen someone attempt to "rally the troops" in support of an assault without adequate intelligence (hmmm, ponder THAT one for a second...).

Sounds to me that there's another issue that is not out there yet, and that our original poster has an axe to grind for whatever reason, and, it sounds like the "safety concern" is about to go away, since our original poster is likely in the throes of being tossed out as a (member / guest / potential member).

IMO, This is not something the RR forum is here to "fix." This is a private issue for the club to work out.
07-18-2003 Over year old.
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superstallion
Senior Heliman
Location: Jamaica, New York

this same topic is being discuss on the main discussion. As the last person stated on the main discussion post a pic of the field. I personnally wanted to hear the point of view of the other members of the field, as I stated in my post. As someone stated before that I am knocking the field, I don't think talking about two pilot is knocking the entire field and its member. I talk about Seaview in the past and it was always good thing.
I myself wanted to hear the next side.
HELYNAT (I will be mature and call you by the name you go by) it seem like you only have a answer for one part of my complaint, what about the first part?
Two incident that never happen to you in the past at the field happen in 1/2 hour that would make anyone think. I am not dwelling on this I moved on.
07-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Jim C
Veteran
Location: Indiana, PA

hahahahahha you said HARD ON... uh huhuhuh

Brooklynites.. hahahhahahaaha




jim

http://jimsrc.com
08-01-2003 Over year old.
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MAH Blades
Senior Heliman
Location: NEW YORK

superstallion

superstallionI like to know youre real name y you hidding behind s/n?
08-01-2003 Over year old.
 
 
eSmith
Veteran
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Don't be foolish, so are you.


-eSmith.

http://www.edmheli.ca
08-01-2003 Over year old.
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MAH Blades
Senior Heliman
Location: NEW YORK

no i am not

every boddy knows me as MAH man.
08-01-2003 Over year old.
 
 
ttgecko
Heliman
Location: brooklyn,ny

do you guys know each other...
08-01-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Raffy
Key Veteran
Location: Chicago, Illinois

Oh boy! There must be a lot of helicopter pilots now adays at flying fields! Normally you would here arguments like this between a heli pilot and an airplane pilot.

OK guys, it looks like we are not cooperating with each other.
Peace! and let's have some fun!!!!!
08-01-2003 Over year old.
 
 
superstallion
Senior Heliman
Location: Jamaica, New York

helynat

I manage my subscription to the other post by choosing to ignore it, I don't know what was going on over there on the main disscussion, and I really don't care. Thanks to that ignore function it work great. It seem like helynat cant sleep at night. move on with your life it seem like you are trying to raise up a ants nest.
08-02-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Hoverdown3K
Key Veteran
Location: Rochester, New York

ya know what.. who cares, don't fly there, the field and the AMA is a joke anyways, it is just another way of making money.

I fly at a school and love it that way, no rules no one to wait for, and best of all no idiots flying over my head.
11-30-2004 Over year old.
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Jasper7
Key Veteran
Location: Birmingham , UK

Hi all

I'm new to this and don't even have a Heli yet. But to me both parties were in the wrong.

First of all you shouldn't even walk across the flying area, it may take you longer to walk around the perimiter, but at least your safe. You are not the onlyone who is there to fly. So why should others have to stop flying safely for just because you want to leave the field on an unsafe route

Secoundly, even if SuperWhatever your name is, was doing the wrong thing, those expirenced flyers should of taken extra care when they noticed an someone, walking in the flying zone. Moved the Heli's away, landed, then instructed of the correct safety rules. To of carried on flying was only making a dangerous incident, even more dangerous. If an accident had of happenes, I'm sure the H&S Executive or the Police would hold both parties to blame.

It is everyones responsibility for safety, not only of your self, but for everyone around you. If some one is not carrying out actions in a safe manor, you should point this out in a polite way. Anyone that dosen't take adice with the understanding it's in theinterest of safety should be grounded.

Everyone, is responsbilbe for their own safety and the safty of others due to their own action

Jasper.
12-19-2004 Over year old.
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zoom boy
Key Veteran
Location: N.E. Lincolnshire UK

That post by MAH seems more like damage limitation rather than anything else, why dont BOTH of you post your real names and sort out that pissing contest out the old fassioned way.

If not listen up, both are wrong, but the "pro" was mostly wrong, purely because they didnt stop flying when superstallion was crossing the field, and for all we know the "pro" took off and headed for that part of the field on purpose, so show off or agrivate the new guy.

The "pro" should have not been flying if he saw someone there, he should have either landed or hovered far away until "superstallion" left the field, no ifs no buts, that is how it should have been, IF "superstallion" went out onto the field while someone was flying there, then it was STILL the pilots responcibility to land or hover far away from "superstallion" and wait, and explain why to not do it again.

If it happens again and its unprovoked and you are being safe but the pilot isnt, certainly take a baseball bat to it
01-05-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Timmah0422
Senior Heliman
Location: Tulsa,OK

I agree with zoom boy. I understand walking through someone else's flightpath is bad and wrong. But what's wrong with landing and telling him "Hey that's unsafe." Then he know. If he keeps it up then take action to let apporopriate people know! Get him banned from the field. But it seems very childish and immature to taunt him by flying close to him. I worked on F-15's If I crossed the runway whenever I felt like it I could be killed. But I know if a jet was landing and saw me he'd divert and take appropriate actions to prevent me from doing that again. It's a safety issue. Both should have acted in a safer manner. Peace
01-31-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Stet
Elite Veteran
Location: Long Beach CA

There is a communication problem here.

When someone is in our flight area, right or wrong, we stand down. That means fly away from the person and land. We politely explain what's up. If they do not respond appropriately, we can call the Sheriff since we are sanctioned by the city and we have authority over the field, and they will be removed.

If the pilot enters restricted space, he should be coached and then warned. If the instructions given are ignored, he should be asked not to return. Politely, definitively, immediately. Call an officers meeting and vote him out.

If you have done your due diligence to manage the club, and this member just doesn't get it, he has to be booted from the club as he is a hazard to himself and others. It would be simple enough to explain that here.

If your pilots are flying with a pedestrian crossing the field, and continue to fly over that person, they need to be talked to as well. Obviously they could have been surprised, but to continue flying nearby once they saw him is inexcuseable (if that is what actually happened).

It is aggravating to deal with club membership, I know as I have been managing the club here for about 6 years. You have to be firm but polite and constructive in order to be effective. I have run into those who just cannot be trained. They have to go somewhere else.

Good luck, keep your field safe.

keepin' it real
03-04-2005 Over year old.
 
 
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