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yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

I like to set up my website. Where can I find a good web host?
07-11-2003 Over year old.
 
 
deckerv
Veteran
Location: Wellsville, NY

We use ITXDESIGN where I work.. has never been down yet.. and we've had it for over a year now...

http://www.itxdesign.com/
07-11-2003 Over year old.
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fitenfyr
rrProfessor
Location: Port Orchard, Washington

Ditto on Powweb...

I have had my site hosted there for about 2 years without incident.
Only like 100.00 a year for a sizeable site.

Jason Stiffey
Fly Fast....Live Slow...
07-11-2003 Over year old.
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Greg McFadden
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Location: Spokane Valley, WA

www.doteasy.com has served me well for 4 years now.

The silence often, of pure innocence persuades, when speaking fails
07-11-2003 Over year old.
 
 
vetrider
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Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

http://www.ipowerweb.com/

I've had great service with http://www.ipowerweb.com/
Got two years for a great deal with more features and space than I'll be able to use.

Magnum Fuel
07-11-2003 Over year old.
 
 
jkelly
Veteran
Location: Mobile, AL

I use icdsoft.com . One of the cheapest and most generous hosts I could find. I've been with them for over a year and never a problem.
07-12-2003 Over year old.
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yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

What is "data transfer/bandwidth"?
Does it refer to the visitor traffic?
07-12-2003 Over year old.
 
 
irq
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

yapjy,

Data transfer/bandwidth refers to how much data your web site may send on the internet over a period of time, usually one month. This is usually measured in gigabytes. If your site is very busy, you'll want a lot. If it isn't, a little will do.

That said, I own/operate http://nyip.net/. I've been in the business since 1996. As a fellow pilot, I would love to give you a good deal. Anyone else reading this post can jump in if they want:

750mb disk space
20GB monthly transfer
php / cgi / mysql / pgsql / shell

No Setup Fee
$7.00 a month, paid by credit card

Our servers are extremely well connected - I was downloading some stuff from Sun.com the other day and it was coming in at 7mbit/s.

Again, this is special pricing, so email/PM me if you are interested in the heli pilot discount
07-12-2003 Over year old.
 
 
yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

Hi irq,
Thanks for the offer. The plan is quite attractive.
I will take some time to look around before deciding.
I will also have to get a domain name.

What do "php / cgi / mysql / pgsql / shell" refer to?
I know cgi, but the rest sounds unfamiliar.

If I want to put links to other website, do I have to get their permission?
07-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
bjames
Heliman
Location: Singapore

yapjy,

"cgi" ---> "common gateway interface" is a generic method to enable dynamic page generation (and processing) on the web server. Traditional web servers serve only static pages (e.g. HTML files), but with cgi you are able to "execute/run" programs on the web server that generates the web page on the fly.
The actual programs used for cgi processing varies, it can be a traditional C/C++ program, it can be a Perl script, Phyton script, shell script, PHP, etc, and the actual CGI programs actually built the web page using various dynamic parameters (mainly by getting something from a database).
The most popular CGI programs these days is written in Perl so this is the most commonly supported. But if the web hosting does not say it, then you need to ask though. Anyway, whatever you can do with Perl you can always do in PHP (see below).

"php" ---> (www.php.net) refers to the ability for you to write scripts in PHP language (www.php.net). It's basically a C-like language you embed inside the HTML pages and you can use it to do various processing, such as storing/retrieving data from database, perfoming login/authentication, etc. PHP is actually one of methods to do "cgi" (as above), but it has the advantage that you don't need to write a lot of printf statements to output the static HTML portion (e.g in all HTML files you always need to write ...).
Instead, you write HTML pages as per normal, then you write the server side script on a special blocks. So you can split the work into 2 parts: designing the static portion of the page (layouts, graphics, etc etc), then just add the dynamic portion (e.g. generating "hello username") later as necessary. Most of the website hosting these days offers php, if they don't then forget them :-)

"mysql" ---> (www.mysql.com) is the name of an open-source SQL database. It's the most popular open-source database for use with web applications because:
a) it's free (you can't beat the price :-))
b) it's fast
but it lacks various complex SQL constructs such as transactions, stored procedures, triggers, etc, which is not used in most web applications anyway (except you're writing online banking). If the web hosting offers "mysql" it means it's providing you with an SQL database that you can use together with your cgi / php.

"pgsql" (www.postgresql.org) is another open-source SQL database. It's the 2nd most popular open-source database (some people would argue it's the MOST popular but let's stick to the statistics :-) ), it offers very complete functionality that can be compared to commercial databases like Oracle/DB2 however it's a bit slower.

For practical purposes, it does not make a difference whether you make use of mysql or pgsql --- you just need to ensure that the software package that you use supports mysql or pgsql (and mysql definitely is a win here).

"shell" refers to the terminal-type access to the machine. Basically it means that you can do telnet/ssh to the web-server machine and do your maintenance from there (e.g. remove files, rename, etc etc) but more than that it allows you to run scheduled jobs (e.g. clean-up temporary files every day at 12am). "Shell" is the most powerful access you can get, but it's only useful if you have the previous ones.

As for linking a website, the general view is divided into 2 camps.
a) first camp says you'll have to get permission from the website owner first, because of intellectual properly blablablablah.
b) second camp says linking is the same as if giving directions to others on how to reach the linked website, hence no permission needed: by having a web-presence it implicitly gives anyone the right to link to their site.
c) my opinion is like this:
c1) it's ok to link as long as you just provide a simple text link (website/company name)
c2) don't make use of any artwork/graphics from the linked website unless you have the permission (or the website explicitly says you can use their artwork to link)
c3) don't make use of any other graphics to point to the linked site (unless it's "stylized-text" graphics), as the company/website may already have their own preferred graphics for linking,
c4) you do the linking in good faith
but hey, I'm not a lawyer so can't say whether my opinion can be held in courts ;-), having said that I practice what I say

Okay, that's helicopter-point-of-view-from-300-feet answers. Some details are not exactly correct (e.g. mysql actually supports transaction BUT you need to get version 4.0.x or higher and only on certain table-type) --- but you get the idea.

irq,
for the offer does the resulting website must be heli related or can it be anything else

cheers,
07-13-2003 Over year old.
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irq
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

My offer is available to any fellow helicopter pilot The site can be about anything, though. Within our Terms of Service agreement anyway, which means no porn or warez basically
07-13-2003 Over year old.
 
 
yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

Hi irq,
Do you provide domain name registration service?
07-14-2003 Over year old.
 
 
irq
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

We will host your domain no problem, but we do not register them. I suggest dotster.com - $15 a year. If you intend to use the domain you register with nyip.net, set your primary and secondary DNS servers to ns1.nyip.net and ns2.nyip.net, respectively.

If you need assistance registering your domain name, don't hesitate to PM me
07-14-2003 Over year old.
 
 
yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

Hi irq,
Thank you very much for the assistant.
And thank you james for the advice too.
07-14-2003 Over year old.
 
 
yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

Thanks everyone who response to this post.
I think I will try to make a simple website on a free web host before I go to get my own domain.

Check this out:
http://sg.geocities.com/yapjy_heli
07-17-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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