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Kevin
Heliman
Location: Saskatoon Saskatchewan Canada

Okay I can hold a steady hover on G2 now when I go out with the real thing is it going to feel the same? I am running G2 with my own radio.
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Doug
Elite Veteran
Location: Naples Florida....

Except for the dry mouth and knocking knees
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Hivoltage
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio

Its going to be pretty darn close.!! Just be extra careful cause the real crash costs money and time.
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
capebob
Veteran
Location: Cape Coral, FL

NO

That's the short answer. There are so many variables in model helicopter flying that it is impossible for a simulator to cover them all. However, you have mastered the required stick movements well enough to be able to deal with the differences. Also, your helicopter will not be set up as well as the ones on G2.

I have four items of advice:

1. Get an experienced pilot to check you setup.

2. Don't forget you training gear.

3. Remember, there is no "space bar" on your radio.

4. Have fun.

Bob
03-01-2002 Over year old.
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BladeRunner
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario Canada. Member of "some sort" s

Hover?

Like Doug says, but I will add the lump in your pants. hehehe.
I would say just keep practicing until you can almost do it in your sleep, by that I don't mean til you get bored, just until it's second nature.

As you get comfortable crank up the wind and slide the g-2 lever to realistic for landings and such. It will get better, try to relax and have some fun.
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
RCL
Senior Heliman
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona

Doug, you forgot to mention wet pants!
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
noname
Veteran
Location: .

IMHO, it's easier to hover in real-life than in the sim. Ofcourse, as already stated beware of the pounding heart-beat & knocking knees.

hmmm, on a second thought, your hands might shake a lot and will start to feel a bit numb

A word of advice ... a crash 10" or 10' above the ground will usually damage the helicopter the same way .... As soon as you feel confortable enough, put that heli up 10' rather than 10" above the ground. ... that will give you more time to react & fix things in case you get disoriented.
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
madmax
Heliman
Location: Grundy,VA

And dont forget the pucker-factor will go up to about 75%
and as stated above fly the sim tell you can do it in your sleep and have fun
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

your first hover

My first hover, well it was with a Raptor, I had about 75 hours of sim time on 2 different sims, I wanted to do this right ! The 2 sims where the original Dave Brown DOS and the free FMS, 52 of those hours where on the free FMS and I log those 52 hours in a note book, ... My first hover was great, I kept that babby with in a 6Ft circle,,, my kneen didn't knock, but I had to land a few times because I got tunnel-vision, I really did get tunnel-vision !!
The only thing I can say is to be very aware of your throttle and collective, but after 4/5/6 landings you will feel it better,,, and the guy with more time on his sim will do better than the guy with less time on his sim !!,,, so get 40/50 hours on that sim and fly, you will land and then you will say to your self "I really can do this'...
And get your-self a cool nick name !!

the Wasp
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
JCadwell
Key Veteran
Location: Richland WA/ Morro Bay, CA

At least he isn't named after a juice box... (J/K )

Thanks, John Cadwell
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

Hey Seneca,,, I took that personal, I have no problem with your name,,, thanks John !!!

the Wasp
03-01-2002 Over year old.
 
 
KCorning
Senior Heliman
Location: Northern Lower Michigan

Nickname

The Wasp wrote:
And get your-self a cool nick name !!


Hey, I think "Kevin" is a cool nickname...

-Kevin
03-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Augusto
rrAdvertiser
Location: San Diego, CA

One thing I tell people that learned to hover and are trying to make their hovers more solid is to experiment by going up and down hard on the thottle stick so that the heli goes up and down sort of like bouncing it. Doing so makes them acquire a feel for where the throttle stick should be at and they also learn not to be afraid of moving the left stick as much as they really need.

The three persons I told them to do that have thanked me several times for it.

Avant Aurora Ultimate
03-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
bdg1r1
Senior Heliman
Location: Austin

have fun

Dont let these guys get you wound up, to answer you question. I find myself more into flying out side. The Sim is like S.A.T. it just gets you ready. Use the trainning gear out their, it help also.The Sim will let crash and start over: Real life, "****, there goes 100 bucks!"
So, you will be more focused on what you are doing.
Have Fun
r
BG
P.S. It does not take 72 pluse hours to learn the hover on sim, try about 1.5 and some help out the field. NEXT, STEP NOSE IN>>>>>
03-02-2002 Over year old.
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JCadwell
Key Veteran
Location: Richland WA/ Morro Bay, CA

Hey Seneca, hope you didn't take it too hard. Didn't mean to step on any toes, especially considering the edginess of people as of late. Just poking a little fun. My apologies.

Thanks, John Cadwell
03-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
JCadwell
Key Veteran
Location: Richland WA/ Morro Bay, CA

NIIIIIICE... My uncle has a Lancair IVP that he takes me up in every once in a while. Good stuff.

Thanks, John Cadwell
03-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
helicopter34
Veteran
Location: New Jersey, exit 82

It really is really easy

I said to myself, oh my god, this is easier than the sim. The only thing that is harder is the sim starts with a nicely trimmed model, it doesn't piroute at 100 rpm cause you set your gyro backward or something.
Just make sure you set everything up correctly. Try setting your atv (or dual rates if you have em) lower so you get less sensitivity. And make sure you have your training gear on. Unless you totally duff it, decent training gear will save you on most stuff. Just give your rotors enough time to get up to rpm while its light on its feet till you lift off, that way its a little easier to have a smooth transition into hover from the ground, if you do it real quick you get allot more rotation that you will need to compensate for.

Put it on cement first, with training gear with wiffle balls and just when its light on the gear see if appears to be struggling to rotate. (It may be a little decieving if your in HH mode.
03-02-2002 Over year old.
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the Wasp
rrProfessor
Location: Vt

 I thought wrong

I thought wrong,, I took that little joke the wrong way !!, I admit it !! I don't know you guys and I shouldn't have flown off the handle like I did, Ok Seneca ?

the Wasp
03-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
kevlar11
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton

Hover

I miss flying in my buds Senca and doing spins in his Tomahawk
I spent about 20hr on the sim then went out to hover. Well if the sim could forget to take the glow starter off it would have been just like the real thing! Lucky for me I spotted it.

KD
03-02-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Virtual1
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterloo, Iowa - USA

re: glow starter... I've done that at least once. It flies ok, but sure looks silly. Tho it might not fly so well if you have a starter that plugs into a power panel.

Sim? What sim? Just get out there and put it in the air! Big training gear are a plus. Make sure the max negative pitch is something small so you don't drill it into the ground hard if you panic. (no more than maybe -2deg)

Definitely have an expert check it out first tho. I read into the theory about how changes affect flight 90deg later in the blade rotation, so when I built my Raptor I thought it was normal that when I pushed forward cyclic that my swash dipped to the left. That would have made for a very exicting but very short short first flight.

Most places I read about getting started suggested a parking lot, something smooth and paved. I found that I had a better time with a flat open grass field. The little bit of resistance when the training gear are on the ground seems to help.
03-02-2002 Over year old.
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