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Crashed? Discussion and Photos > Doh! -- Raptor 60
 
 
Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

My first real crash, not some piddly tail rotor getting dorked

All I can say about this one is that I am glad that no one was hurt, the crash itself doesn't bother me it just plastic and metal. Flesh and bone is more difficult to repair.

I was on my 3rd flight of the day, had strapped the GPS to the tailboom and had originally planned to just do some lazy flying to get a track going in the GPS. Well then, out of pure genius I decided why not throw a roll in? So I go for it. Of course, being in normal mode really didn't help matters. As I flew left to right, fairly far out from the flightline I went for the roll, realized what I had done when it was upside-down, falling with a very low headspeed, it hit the ground pretty hard from about 80 feet up about 50 feet from where 3 or 4 people were under tents. I am very thankful to any diety/scientific law/luck that it went away from people.

Damage cost tabulation comming.. SO FAR, but more details once I rip it apart it works out like this.

Tail boom (have one spare)
Torque Tube(Have one spare)
Entire tail rotor assembly( the gears are fine though )
CF vertical tail fin
Tail boom support
TT CF Blades
Flybar
Canopy/Canopy clips
Landing gear struts
Landing gear aluminum tubes
All lower plastic frame pieces are broken

The head was in surprisingly good shape considering it landed upside down, I will more than likely have to add mainshaft and feathering shaft into that as well. I have not looked deeper for more specific damage.

I'm going to take this completely apart (back to kit form) and rebuild it, too hard of a landing just to replace the broken parts and fly again.



Rock on!

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Jon
06-29-2003 Over year old.
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Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

Aww. that sux.. well live to learn for another day. Lucky only a raptor. I guess you have that dumb thumb moment huh, well don't feel back just rebuilt and fly again.
Best to check your tail output shaft, mainshaft and feathering shaft for run out.

Naomi
06-29-2003 Over year old.
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RaptorHelius
Senior Heliman
Location: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

OUCH! that really blows! I'm recovering from my first crash too, although the more I think about it the more I come to the conclusion it really wasn't a crash.. I figure that sometime during the flight I landed too hard and snapped a couple of dowels on my hoola-hoop training gear without really noticing them... Then on that last landing the broken dowels must have caused the heli to tip just enough to hit the blades against the ground and then the tail boom... I will keep a very close eye on any dowels in the future!!

Goodluck on the rebuild!

oh, you said something about GPS? could you eleborate on this? You've peeked my curiousity!!

Regards,
06-29-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

Heya RaptorH, I lucked out on the GPS, I had borrowed it from work and it's about $250 but still works great.. Would have far outweighed the repair bill on my raptor. The GPS alone will just track positional data and store it internally, I just wanted to make a track and download it into my computer. Well now I have a really interesting track I guess, too bad it doesn't record altitude or speed :/ without an external data logger, which is on my to do list.

Heli_Gal, thanks for the support, I will probably just replace the main and feathering shaft regardless, I don't like stressed metal parts The tail output shaft has a funny shape to it, so it's getting replaced also.

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Jon
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Beezer
Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

I can surely feel your pain. Gravity sure does suck at times don't it.
06-29-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

Lucky you didn't broke the GPS else you'd been in the dog house.. there goes your repair bill for your raptor.

Naomi
06-29-2003 Over year old.
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Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

Additional items after complete dissassembly: pinion gear BENT! Wasn't expecting that, main shaft and feathering shaft are shot as well. Pinion bearing shot also, dry bearing, probably not related.

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Jon
06-29-2003 Over year old.
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FinnDave
Elite Veteran
Location: Kouvola, Finland

Naomi, are you going to say 'lucky it was only a Raptor' every time someone crashes one? Because let me tell you, it is beginning to grate.

David S., Kouvola, Finland
06-29-2003 Over year old.
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Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

I think I'll get a raptor too.. I like to join the raptor club.. seriously no pun intended. I think a raptor50v2 would be nice to start with.

*sorry If i have ruffled a few feathers*

Naomi
06-29-2003 Over year old.
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Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

Despite how the term may be used/abused I'm glad it was "only a raptor". As it is this crash is gonna cost me over $200 to fix, I'd hate to imagine how much it'd cost if it were a Fury, I think I'll just stick with this for a while, I'm not the type that would drive a Lamborghini in a destruction derby anyways!

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Jon
06-29-2003 Over year old.
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Twobeers
Key Veteran
Location: Toronto, Canada

If you have to replace the tail rotor hubs I would strongly suggest you replace the tail gears at the same time. If it damaged the housing more than likely the gears will have some damage that won't manifest itself until at a later inopportune time. For the cost of the gears, better safe than out of another couple of hundred bucks a little later.

I lost my infamous tag line.
06-29-2003 Over year old.
 
 
G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

doh meant a new thread



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06-29-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

Hey Galifrey since you're on a lucky streak, wanna bless my Raptor?

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Jon
06-30-2003 Over year old.
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Barbary
Veteran
Location: new york

I guess you got even for me crashing when you weren't around. forgetting to go into idle up is something everybody does at some point, but it's such strong negaive reinforcement that you tend to remember usually afterword. i have those cf 680s if you want them, cheaper than buying a pair retail.
06-30-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

It was a beauty I even managed to whack one of the skids with a rotor.. Would have loved to see it in slow-mo!

Yes on those blades! drop me an e-mail with what you want for them, I just hocked some more dust-collecting laser equip on e-bay today so it looks like I should be back up and running sooner than I thought

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Jon
06-30-2003 Over year old.
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G.Man
rrProfessor
Location: Northants, but soon to be Nicosia, Cyprus

Father Galifrey sends a blessing to SAR's raptor



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06-30-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Sar
Elite Veteran
Location: Kingston, NY

Why spend $489 for a $200 repair?

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Jon
07-01-2003 Over year old.
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Flyinghuntster
Heliman
Location: Jacksonville, Fl / Hampton roads, Va

Yeah, that sounds GREAT, Get a new kit! I guess the only real benefit would be that you would then have many new spare parts that you might never again need.....? As long as Gravity keeps workin', we'll all be in that same situation.....In the dirt!
07-05-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Justin Jackson
Heliman
Location: Norman, OK

Just to let everybody know, I also had my first crash forgetting to put into idle up position as well. Same thing, went into a roll too low to the ground and it started falling with the engine dying on me. Managed to flip it back upright and with what altitude I had, tried to do an autorotation. Ugly one, managed to save the heli minus the boom,support rods, flybar and blades. I'm thinking about using a vigor cs flybar to replace, we'll see how that goes.

-Justin
09-26-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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