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dgxco
Senior Heliman
Location: Greenville, SC

Another Zero

Well just for fun I tried United Ageny in CA. Hey guess what the said after 3 weeks of research thaht there is no insurance to get even at a $5,000 minimum premium anymore. They handle motion picture and production as well as other "risky" insurance. Glad didn't invest too much in this venture. Fun as a hobby but bad business. Wish I could find better news!

Dark Angel
09-01-2003 Over year old.
 
 
dgxco
Senior Heliman
Location: Greenville, SC

Finder Fee

OK, that would be great. Tell you what. I'll pay you a finder fee if you can find me insurance coverage in the State of Florida....

Dark Angel
09-02-2003 Over year old.
 
 
lowandslow
Key Veteran
Location: Spring Hill, TN

Insurance? Yes, it's out there if you want to spend five grand a year. Affordable insurance for this type of work? Bull, it aint there.
09-02-2003 Over year old.
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daggit
Elite Veteran
Location: Waseca MN

There goes SENECA stirring again
09-02-2003 Over year old.
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MPA
Elite Veteran
Location: Australia

Wrestless Natives
09-02-2003 Over year old.
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dgxco
Senior Heliman
Location: Greenville, SC

Isn't so...................

Sorry I just dont believe its out there I told my agents that there were no set limits on premium cost and that I needed coverage to sign some new contracts with commercial customers. I sent them my previous insurance information as well as complete data on the machines and samples of my proposed contract, photos of the units and sample shots showing photos in totally isolated areas. Well it was just a bunch of bananas to the insurance company. I even sent them photos of my airfoil unit as is is so much smaller than my Bergen Industrial, I was afraid that the sight of that unit would scare them off by the mass of it.
I even added info that we added auto-pilot back up servos and betteries and it just didn't matter. They sent me to the AMA which we all know is another dead end.
So I have had business insurance and only canceled because I sold the racing business and I still cant get coverage?

I have my car insured with Geico, my house with Allstate and my Bikes with Rider, my business was with Travelers.... no secrets!

Dark Angel
09-02-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

John,

I see a picture of the Angel of the North on your website (forth picture on this page http://www.airfoilhelicam.com/pics.html ). Did you take that one yourself? Just wondering because the Angel is located in United Kingdom.
09-02-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

Aerial Photography Network

I just started this thread. Please respond if you are interestead.

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t61626p1/

Another benefit would be that when the database grows some insurance company may see that it worth investigating the issue and give us a quote.
09-02-2003 Over year old.
 
 
MPA
Elite Veteran
Location: Australia

JO

Yes all back together, with all the new mods.
09-02-2003 Over year old.
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cmartin
Veteran
Location: Kouts IN

timber

You might as well forget it . Hes not going to risk loosing his insurance by telling anyone. But some day what goes around comes around and it might just happen anyway. Its a lost cause

Chad
09-02-2003 Over year old.
 
 
cmartin
Veteran
Location: Kouts IN

Thats right , I bet alot of us have a problem seeing your big picture.
09-03-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Smithprod
Veteran
Location: Oklahoma

I had no trouble at all finding insurance. The key was I alread have an established video production business. I didn't approach insurance companies and tell them I wanted insurance for my aerial photography business, I told them I wanted insurance for my video production business. The helicopter just happens to be another one of my tools for shooting video and they had no problem with it.

Brad
09-03-2003 Over year old.
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dgxco
Senior Heliman
Location: Greenville, SC

Bad Idea

Well that is a really bad idea. In the best scenario if you kill someone your company will not pay any claims, in the worst your company will pay and sue you for everything you've got and wil ever get. Full disclosure must be made to maintain coverage. Hiding things under the rug will bite you in the butt.

Dark Angel
09-03-2003 Over year old.
 
 
lowandslow
Key Veteran
Location: Spring Hill, TN

Tell your insurance company that you use UAV's for your video work and watch how fast they run.
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Dr. Fibinotchi
Key Veteran
Location: Sioux Falls SD

Insurance a scape goat

John,

First John I am happy you are going somewhere and things are looking up for you. The buisness looks like its going somwhere. The people, climate, and your system seem to be working.


Some of the people on this thread are really frustrated. They have poured their heart and soal into learning developing their skills in helis as well as the photography side (if needed) in possiblly making money at. Doing reserch they pour many many man hours and time into jumping the final hurdle. I have seen and heard of doing write ups on the heli, all the safety features is has..etc etc with insur companies. Kind of like dressing up and preping for an important interview.

The bottom line is no one outside of the heli circle has a clue what these machines can and will do. They forcast their own opinions like the news reporter that wrote a bad article about these 'uav bomb machines' which could have impacted every insurance would be for us after 9-11. Everyone on this thread has tried tireleslly at finding insurance with outside help even, laywers etc.. Some wise up and fly full scale because it is cheaper, and others sell their gear and enjoy the hobby.

You may sell the best product in the world for a new person getting into it. What a wonderfull thing if you had support on insur for your product. It would mean that you stood behind it right???
09-03-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

I feel the same with Janek. I live in UK so it makes no difference for me which insurance provide cover in US. Over here BMFA provides insurance for commercial flying. However, I can't believe that that everyone on this thread is an idiot and can't find insurance. The numbers of people who failed to get a cover show that it is simply not available which makes me wonder if anyone is really insured for this type of activity!
09-03-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

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I never even looked for insurance but I can guarantee that all these "idiots" here, as you call them, have looked plenty and if they cant find legitimate insurance then it is most likely not available.


That's exectly what I meant!... I am on your side
09-03-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

Guys, what I meant is that you can't all (apart from John) be idiots. Perhaps I didn't word it right. Is that clear now? I didn't mean to call anyone an idiot.
09-03-2003 Over year old.
 
 
AirShot
Heliman
Location: Blairsville, GA.

Easy Now!

Seneca,

I for one appreciate the input that you give on this forum. However, I resent the fact that you feel anyone who thinks they can make a buck with a helicam an idiot! Now I don't think you really meant it, because if you felt that way it seems that this thread would be worthless to you and a waste of time. Now either you have some concerns or you really don't give a crap and just want to piss people off.

All others,

Nobody's is going to get anywhere if all we are doing is bashing each other. I am not some kind of therapist or any of that BS, I am a guy that has invested alot of dang money in equipment that is making good money part-time. I can make a dollar doing this right now without insurance, but am I that stupid.....no, but I am not an idiot either. I know that I can make a "decent buck" if giving the opportunity, and that opportunity is with insurance.

I refuse to go to these companies trying to hide things under the rug as someone has mentioned. If it aint legit, whats the point. I have not given up, nor should any of you. I have written my state Insurance representatives to find out why I can not get insurance. I have also written others. The point is I am not giving up.

If I do find it on my OWN, without any help, I will not have a bit of problem sharing any and all information that I can. If for some reason I have help finding it, and it is legit, I will respect the one who offered the info.

Remember me, I am the "idiot" that is still looking for 20-30 guys so we can hopefully put this puppy to bed!

AirShot
09-03-2003 Over year old.
 
 
Smithprod
Veteran
Location: Oklahoma

"The helicopter just happens to be another one of my tools for shooting video and they had no problem with it."

What part of this can you not understand??!! I didn't hide anything from my insurance company, I own a video productions business that also shoots aerial. It's very simple and I'm not "hiding anything under the rug."

Brad
09-03-2003 Over year old.
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