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turbocivic4
Senior Heliman
Location: Hawaii Maui

3 things i plan on getting
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...item=2415144350
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...item=2415235419
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...item=2415405337
Gimme!!!!
Helis and Cars rule!!!!
Send it too my house will you!!!
Too bad my bank account will go to moosh
05-18-2003 Over year old.
 
 
synrgy
Heliman
Location: Sydney, Australia

rice!
05-18-2003 Over year old.
 
 
omurru
Veteran
Location: Australia

tell me about it....if you want a performance car why don't you go buy a skyline or something instead of doing mods to ya mums car
05-18-2003 Over year old.
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ESchmidt
Senior Heliman
Location: Salem, NH

No Replacement for Displacement

Just keep sinking money into it...maybe someday it will keep up with a V8 or turbo V6 powered piece of American iron...hehe. Next thing you need is nitrous oxide, and you can be like all the rest of the kids who were fooled by The Fast and the Furious Don't forget about the fart can muffler too.

Just bustin your balls....I'm sure with $10K of mods...it'll still be a Honda.

Eric
05-18-2003 Over year old.
 
 
turbocivic4
Senior Heliman
Location: Hawaii Maui

hmmm

With all do respect with this $5,500 mod i will be making 285-330 whp in a 2,000 pound car. Skylines r34's come in at round 280 at the crank, fast and the furious seriously killed the presentation of the real 4 bangers when all these 1,000's of youngsers rice out there cars. I makin 228 whp now of a sohc 4 banger only 1600cc
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
eddie13231
Senior Heliman
Location: Kansas City

This car would beat "american iron". My friend has 245 hp in a civic hatch that weighs nothing and it run's 12's.
05-19-2003 Over year old.
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omurru
Veteran
Location: Australia

Theres a skyline up in Sydney producing over 1000hp at the rears, without NOS....runs under 7 seconds, don't believe me i'll show you the video. Skylines don't come from the factory with much power but their potential is huge.....
05-19-2003 Over year old.
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turbocivic4
Senior Heliman
Location: Hawaii Maui

oh

I certainly believe as a skyline r34 is actually my car of choice if i were rich. My friend who is stationed in Okinawa in the airforce got a 1992 skyline non turbo for like 2000 and it was mint!!!Too bad u cant ship them back as it will cost big time. A new skyline costs roughly about 88,000 dollars and up.
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
helimike77
Senior Heliman
Location: Rowland Heights, CA


454 C.I.
Demon carb
700r4 tranny
no timeslip til i get a posi rearend

"No Replacement for Displacement"
Couldnt of put it better helifreak
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
ESchmidt
Senior Heliman
Location: Salem, NH

helimike

Dude...nice ride. Beautiful flame job. Put a posi in that thing, and get it to a track ASAP!!!

I had a 74 Chevy P/U with a 454 in it that was making close to 600hp. You should have seen some of the surprised looks I got from a lot of Mustang owners.

eddie....just about every kid I've talked to that has a modified Honda runs 12s..that must be the magic number. I ask them if they have time slips to back up their claims and I've only seen one that does. Don't get me wrong, it can be done, and I've seen some very fast, very bad ass rice out there, but a 12 second quarter mile is a lot tougher to achieve than some people think. I've owned my own speed shop and worked on everything from 3.8L turbo V6s in the GNs and TTAs to a 514ci blown, alcohol injected KB Hemi, so I'm not just talking out my ass.

turbocivic4...sounds like you're getting there. Just don't be dissapointed when you pull up along a bone stock ZO6 Vette and he blows your doors off.
I've still got a small block Chevy sitting on the engine stand that I've got close to $8000 in to. I had it in a 70 Camaro RS that was pretty much an all out drag car with licence plates. Street racing got boring when the only thing that could give me a good run was a 900cc or better rice rocket.
Have fun with it, and race it at the track, I've seen too many people get hurt on the street. Post or PM me some time slips when you get them. I'd be interested to see what your car is running.

Eric
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
TurboRacer
Senior Heliman
Location: CT

Hmmm...

ehh, just another civic with a turbo!

It's ok I guess at least your making it a little quicker. Still couldn't get excited with a front-drive car though if it was me.

Shoulda got an AWD turbo DSM!

cheap, awd, turbo from the factory. You can run 12's for $2k in mods. I know from experience, man!

Whatever floats your boat though.
05-19-2003 Over year old.
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helimike77
Senior Heliman
Location: Rowland Heights, CA

old car = big trunk
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
rover
Senior Heliman
Location: Brandon,FL

You guys and your 4cyl turbos, when will you learn? Just go buy a V8 and feel what real power is off of the showroom floor. I know the civics look cool with all of those body panels but, who needs looks when you have speed? besides those body kits just weigh you down. it is not raw Power you need, it is power to weight ratio afterall.

Rover
Mechanical Engineer
05-19-2003 Over year old.
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TurboRacer
Senior Heliman
Location: CT

Here we go again.

Yes, rover, V8's are usually faster than 4's. Truth of the matter is, any car can be fast if you put some money into it.

A honda is slow. A honda will always be slow unless you sink some MAJOR money into it. In my opinion, it is not worth it.

There are 4's out now that will give any stock V8 a run for it's money. The ones I am talking about are:

WRX's - low 14 second quarter mile
WRX sti - low 13 second quarter mile
Lancer Evo Vii - low 13 second quarter mile
Turbo Eclipse/Talon - low 14 second quarter mile

Let's compare that to the new V8's

Camaro/firebird LS1 - low-mid 13 second quarter mile
Mustang GT high 13, low 14 second quarter mile

Hmmm.. Turbo 4's are putting up a fight! Notice I did not mention Hondas because they are not even worth modding. Front wheel drive, no torque, and everyone and their grandmother has one. Sure you can make one run 12 seconds, but in the end, you have a very unreliable $30k honda. Woohoo! - not.

So please, open up your mind and see that turbo 4's are here to stay, and very powerful when built right. If you are anywhere near CT I invite you to come run my Eagle Talon with your V8. Not saying I will win, but I will definately scare you. If your car can run faster than a 13.2 or so, then you have a chance. If not, you are going to get smoked by a 4 cylinder.

I raced my Boss' 71 Monte Carlo the other day at lunch time. It's a 402 bored .20 over, cam, turbo 400 street/strip tranny, bolt ons, 3" pipes, 3.xx gears.

We went from a 30mph roll, I toasted him. At 80mph he was 4 car lengths behind. Not bad for a 2 liter. Toasting a 6.5+ liter V8.

There is always someone faster, and you just sound ignorant if you make blanket statements against all 4 cylinders.

Oh yeah, my last car was a 94 Formula Firebird that had over 320 hp. 5.7l V8 LT1. My 4 cylinder would put car lengths on my Formula if I still had it. AWD turbo 4's are nothing to sneeze at. Please do some research on the subject before sounding like another redneck who thinks V8's are god and no car is better/faster.



Thank you
05-19-2003 Over year old.
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rover
Senior Heliman
Location: Brandon,FL

I never said that the 4cyl turbos were not good, i just said that it is unreasonable to drive one of you want speed.
Lets look at the comparison of costs.

Subaru Impreza Wrx-sti MSRP 30,995,
Mustang Gt MSRP 24,330,
That looks like more than a 6500 dollar difference, for a car that is within one second of the other car, in the 1/4, a $6000 difference goes along way, lets see for 6000 i could easily make the GT run 11 sec quarters, also with just putting drag tires on the mustang it would be very close to the WRX-Sti without modifications.
Lets introduce a car that is closer to the price range of the Sti. 2003 Cobra, with a MSRP at 32,000, it is a V8 RWD that runs 12s with stock tires, got you beat there.
Dollar for dollar the V8s still beat out the imports. In speed and price.

Rover
Mechanical Engineer
05-19-2003 Over year old.
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TurboRacer
Senior Heliman
Location: CT

Ok, if we're talking best bang for the buck. My car cost me $6k, I put $4k in mods, and I will smoke a new mustang GT, which costs $25k+.

And if I spent anopther $15k to get to the mustang's cost, I can buy another Talon, and have two 10 second cars.

It's all preference. I don't want to spend $30 to have a Mustang that runs 12's. I'd rather buy the car cash, have no car payments, have more play money, and still smoke said mustang.

And why mention the mustang? It's the slowest V8 pony car in stock form you can get! At least let's talk the big dogs, the chevy LS1's.

I've smoked so many 4.6 GT's I don't even waste the gas anymore. Not too fun!

Ok, I'm going. Gotta get to the airport.
05-19-2003 Over year old.
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Safe_Cracker
Key Veteran
Location: Chicago, IL

Smoking 4.6 GT's?

Who couldn't?A 4.6 with underdrive pullys and a chip still only produces 190 rear wheel HP.Sure the rice patties may get up a bit of hoopty when you spend a bit of cash, but go ahead and put the same amount of money in a nice piece of cubed american block, now you're playing with power!No matter how much power you try to squeeze out of that little block, you will always only get a 1/4 can of torque...
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
1UP
Key Veteran
Location: Claymont DE.

(( P.O.S. ))
James

JAMES
member of the HOT GIRLS thread
If it's worth doing, then it's worth over doing
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
driftrider
Veteran
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA. (In my own little world)

I think you two are forgetting the most critical speed producer of any car...the idiot behind the wheel. Anybody can spend big $ and build a car that CAN run 10 second 1/4's (or faster), but that doesn't mean that it WILL run them unless the driver can make it happen.

I've read issues of Turbo magazine and seen 4-bangers that will make 1,000hp+ at the wheels and run <10sec 1/4's until the engine or powertrain explodes. I also know that it isn't too hard to make a big block V8 make the same power and run just as fast, until it explodes. Both types will do the same thing, they just go about it in a different manner.

What I'd like to see is an American big block build to the tech level that makes the ricer's 4-bangers so strong.

I don't see why you guys just don't buy rice rockets if you crave speed so much. I'd bet an $10,500 2003 GSX-R 1000 with a $400 slip-on and a competent rider will leave you seeing nothing but tail lights, on the drag strip and the road course.

Why don't you two just get together at a track and put your titles where your mouths are? And video tape it for the rest of us.

Mike
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
JCadwell
Key Veteran
Location: Richland WA/ Morro Bay, CA

You don't need a slip on for that GSXR. Save your 400$.

Try this instead.

http://www.mrturbo.com/kit_cbr900.htm

Mine will run 10s stock, can't imagine what life would be like with a turbo in it. Imagine dusting ricers with saddlebags and a pillion. Oh wait, that already happens

Thanks, John Cadwell
05-19-2003 Over year old.
 
 
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