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psawya
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Location: Pyongtaek, Korea

To answer the question, yes you can fly inverted with a governor, of course your pitch curves need to be set up for it in idle 1 or 2 or whatever. Basic throttle curves should also be setup. When you set up the GV-1 it gets idle, off and max throttle positions set into it's memory. You need the basic curves so that the GV-1 does not think you are going to idle or off in idle 1 or 2. Now, you can set the GV-1 to be active either with a switch, with throttle position or both. Once on the GV-1 WILL maintain your RPM within the limits of your engine. No need to worry about it failing any more than anything else on your helicopter. You will be in trouble no matter what fails, ie tail servo, gyro, collective servo, receiver etc.....Just make sure you have good reliable equipment and if anything is in doubt test or have someone competent to test it do it, maybe even send it to the manufacturer, or if in doubt replace it.

So to fly inverted with a GV-1 you need to set up the pitch curves, the throttle curves and a properly set up GV-1. There are some good threads here with plenty of info on setting up the GV-1 on different radio systems, try a search, if you can't find the answers, ask for help.

Hope this clears up your question and gets this thread back on track.

Pete
05-15-2003 11:46 AM
 
 
RappyTappy
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Location: Las Vegas, NV

Ponyx, once again. you're an idiot.


The governor will not turn off because once it is on it will stay on. It has to be turned off, either by a switch on the radio or by stick position in normal. Easy enough, why does everyone have to make it so hard?

Chris
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Mickey Tylo
05-15-2003 07:42 PM
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Dragon2115
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Location: New England

Wizen2002,

I see by your profile you have a 10X. I have a GV-1 on my 10X as well. I have it setup so that I can turn it on and off with a switch. I can set the rpm with a knob and can adjust it from 1600 to 1850 rpm. It is setup so throttle hold disengages it as well, regardless of throttle or switch position. Email me and I'll send you my program setup.

Some basics. Yes you can fly inverted with a governor, as well as sideways, backwards, backwards inverted, etc. Iow, any way you want. If you can do it without a GV-1, you can do with a GV-1 only better. You keep the same linear pitch curves. You keep the same throttle curves. You'll need them if the GV-1 fails because by default it resorts to the throttle curve. I usually set my throttle curve so that if the governor fails there will be a distrinct change in rpm to let me know. I haven't had one fail so far though. And there's a couple of minor tricks you can do to make sure it doesn't. Also, if you engage it with a switch you should have your throttle curve fairly close to the set rpm because otherwise the GV-1 will lag and take a few seconds to lock in. You can still have the rpm shift if it disengages, just not a huge one. Have your engine running perfectly before you try to use a GV-1. A governor can mask a poorly tuned engine to some extent, such as a lean run. It can also make a bad situation worse. I was running a 61 very rich on the top end and with the GV-1 engaged pulled into a hard climb. The over rich engine bogged which made it slow down, which made the GV-1 think it needed open the throttle to keep up, which made the engine bog even more, and so on regardless of what I was doing on the throttle/collective stick. See where this is going? ALWAYS, leave a mode where the governor can be turned off while still in flight. I dropped back into normal mode in which the GV-1 was programmed to be off and allowed the engine to recover so I could land. And finally, test all posible switch, throttle, and mode conditions using the SW-CD screen on the GV-1 to make sure of when it's engaged and when it's not BEFORE you fly. I've seen people use a governor for the first time only to throw the throttle hold switch later on and find out the gv-1 wouldn't disengage in t-hold. Make sure it does what you think it's going to do before you run into surprises in the air.
05-16-2003 12:22 AM
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bluefronted
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Location: South Africa

pony express ,

U are a jack ass , with only 26 posts u have a big mouth , filled with crap
06-07-2003 06:47 PM
 
 
HotwingsKey Veteran - Location: Florida, Port Charlotte and West Palm Bch. -


Please cancel my clearance, I have the field in sight.
06-07-2003 07:08 PM
 
 
sharam
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Location: Northern California

Hotwings,

That is great!! LOL.
06-07-2003 07:13 PM
 
 
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