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e-E-Sky Honey Bee- Lama- Belt CP- E-Smart > trex parts on belt CP
 
 
Reddogracing
New Heliman
Location: elkton, ky - todd

are 450 parts bolt on to a belt cp? mostly curious about maybe getting a metal head set for the esky since i destroyed plastic today. See ebay has china head complete and blades for 70 shipping and all.

Belt-CP RTF 8 blades, 4 servo gears, 1 head, flight time - 5 mins
11-03-2008 01:29 PM
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zore
Senior Heliman
Location: Jackson, New Jersey - USA

Not exactly. I just threw a copter x head and tail on mine and it does require a little bit of work.

You will most likely need to use a king 2 main shaft because it is longer. Depending on what you do, you will either relocate the anti rotation plate or buy a swash plate (hdx 450?)that has the guide in the rear. I opted to relocate the swash plate and file it a bit. It also required a little heat and a slight bend.

From there I had to shorten the stock linkage by 2mm each. The copter x head I bought came with linkage rods, swash plate and all.

The head was 50 bucks and the tail was 20.

Yesterday was the first test flight and I really dig it.




11-03-2008 01:40 PM
 
 
DougsRC
Elite Veteran
Location: MA

I had that same head on my King2-- Loved it-- smooth like Butta Two BIG crashes- one of them inverted, came down on the head after the pinion came loose and only bent the spindle Very durable ---Looks real good zore. I think you will be happy with it.
11-03-2008 01:52 PM
 
 
zore
Senior Heliman
Location: Jackson, New Jersey - USA

Thanks doug. Another thing you will need is trex blades or similar. I'm using b400 blades and had to yank one of the black plastic pieces off to get it to fit. Probably not the safest Idea so I flew it behind a fence and never got higher than 3 feet. I'll be buying blades today.
11-03-2008 01:59 PM
 
 
Reddogracing
New Heliman
Location: elkton, ky - todd

well

it looks like i just bought this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=120327627467

so what do you think i will need to buy to use it on my stock belt cp?

I have one more stock shaft, 1 complete flybar, 1 set blades main/tail, and several servo gears left for the belt CP.

right now most of everything above swashplate is toast.

i prob just wasted some money, as i know i need control rods that it doesnt come with, i was looking at their complete head and blades when i bid on this, messed up i think.

Belt-CP RTF 8 blades, 4 servo gears, 1 head, flight time - 5 mins
11-03-2008 02:04 PM
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zore
Senior Heliman
Location: Jackson, New Jersey - USA

Since I bought the complete CopterX head, it came with the plastic end links for the swash. It does look, like it has the nub for the rear mounted anti twist plate. It doesn't look like it has an extra rod so you may need to move the front screw and anti rotation bar to the rear and find a screw for the front ball. You'll most likely need a honey bee king 2 shaft since it's longer. So, blades, king 2 shaft, trex end links and I think you're good to go.
11-03-2008 02:10 PM
 
 
Reddogracing
New Heliman
Location: elkton, ky - todd

think

maybe i should ask them if i could switch and get this insteed??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...52BSI%26otn%3D4

might get me more of what i need. a completed stock setup is 50 plus shipping from jags

Belt-CP RTF 8 blades, 4 servo gears, 1 head, flight time - 5 mins
11-03-2008 02:10 PM
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zore
Senior Heliman
Location: Jackson, New Jersey - USA

Yeah. Either way, the trex linkage wont fit, and you really only need the plastic end links x3. I'm not sure what ball size they use but I'd have to guess it's the same as trex and copterx.
11-03-2008 02:13 PM
 
 
zore
Senior Heliman
Location: Jackson, New Jersey - USA

You could always cancel the buy and get this. http://cgi.ebay.com/CopterX-CNC-Hea...bayphotohosting

It's cheaper and is real copter x stuff. Comes with links, but you'll need blades.
11-03-2008 02:15 PM
 
 
Reddogracing
New Heliman
Location: elkton, ky - todd

ty

thanks zore, i am going to wait a bit and see if any other comments come in. I did ask them if i could switch.

should have waited a bit, did not think i would really get it when i bid.

just want to get the best deal. Wife a little tired of all the parts i have to get when i crash LOL. So i have to make this purchase count.

So any suggestion on these two items i am all ears. I am committed to them now for something, just dont know which way is better deal. And also less parts to order to use.

thanks everyone, i know the advice here is always good. i look forward to it

Belt-CP RTF 8 blades, 4 servo gears, 1 head, flight time - 5 mins
11-03-2008 02:24 PM
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TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

You are probably better off using a stock swash or a B400 swash.

- Chris

Variety+spice+life+supporting_paper_towel_industry=
King2+Rex450+Protos+Concept30
11-03-2008 02:54 PM
 
 
Reddogracing
New Heliman
Location: elkton, ky - todd

a

why do you say that?

about the swashplate i mean.

I should get somethings coming if i can. I am not geting much flight time in here.


Just a side note, i have no idea what happened this time. Had a slight breeze so went to side patio. Concret there is very rough, so i was getting some tipping as skids drug. So i decide to take off when i get to edge and go ahead and hover.

Starts out ok, then suddenly i am 50' up no input, and i am nose in.

stay calm stay calm turn it around , just fly it. I do, and drop the power. figured i hit idle up, but not praticing it, dont want to flip switch to see. So i keep powering down.

It stays up until eventually it rolls and does half inverted dive into dirt. I kill power and let it fall. Lost the head, control arms, blades and mast. Body and tail are good, not sure about servos, power off i dont hear any clicking, but i have gears.

Belt-CP RTF 8 blades, 4 servo gears, 1 head, flight time - 5 mins
11-03-2008 09:26 PM
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TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

The swash off of a Rex has the anti-rotation pin on the wrong side. The stock swash and the better quality B400 swash have it on the correct side. Then you just either swap the balls out or use the correct link ends to make it work.

- Chris

Variety+spice+life+supporting_paper_towel_industry=
King2+Rex450+Protos+Concept30
11-03-2008 09:35 PM
 
 
zore
Senior Heliman
Location: Jackson, New Jersey - USA

If you look at the one he bought, it looks like it will do both. The boss for the pin is in the back, just have to take the front pin and move it to the back and source an extra screw. Mine did not have that so I drilled new holes and moved the anti rotation plate.
11-03-2008 10:37 PM
 
 
TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

Ah I see that now, never mind then.

- Chris

Variety+spice+life+supporting_paper_towel_industry=
King2+Rex450+Protos+Concept30
11-03-2008 10:50 PM
 
 
Reddogracing
New Heliman
Location: elkton, ky - todd

gyro

just curious which gyro do you use? I am still useing stock radio, so not sure if upgrade is worth it unitl after i get better electronics, just curious.

I am still trying to decide on head. The link you sent seller can not accept payments. And seller i was dealing with said they would swap, but seem confused about doing it.

Belt-CP RTF 8 blades, 4 servo gears, 1 head, flight time - 5 mins
11-04-2008 10:10 PM
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TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

Not if you run a GY240 ... a super awesome gyro that does not require radio computability! Oh and look I am selling one right now, imagine that. Interested?

- Chris

Variety+spice+life+supporting_paper_towel_industry=
King2+Rex450+Protos+Concept30
11-04-2008 10:54 PM
 
 
Reddogracing
New Heliman
Location: elkton, ky - todd

other stuff

man its really hard trying to sort this all out.

Is the shaft a definate? I have belt shafts.

Also are blades definate, i have belt blades left?

Are the balls diferant size on lower swashplate? Mine are good, but will i need new ends?

are tail blades the same?

trying to figure out what to order and from who. there are some amny on ebay, but they each seem to come with or without certain items, so i want to make sure what exactly i will have to have.

one comes with blades, and links , no shaft, and a little higher with shipping. Several come with shaft, but no blades or links. And US sellers have just head, no tail, no blades.

Sorry to be a pain. I just want to do it right, and cheap as i can, as from as few sources as i can. I appreciate all the advice.

I would love the gyro, just dont have funds for it right now, wish i did.

I think gyro i have kinda sucks. Seems to always need input, which is like the real thing, but sure would be nice starting out, to have one that would keep the heli pointed in one direction.

Belt-CP RTF 8 blades, 4 servo gears, 1 head, flight time - 5 mins
11-05-2008 04:17 PM
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Hate_To_Crash
Heliman
Location: Near Lake Tahoe

I researched and posted this last year about Rex Parts on a Belt CP

Take a look here..

When I was flying the Belt CP as my main Heli.. I did lots of trail and error on what rex parts would work on the Belt as Belt parts a year ago were a little tough to come by..


Here it is


http://runryder.com/helicopter/t392132p1/


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Now that some months have gone by of course I had to see just how much Rex stuff actually fits the Belt

Rex Head Yes it will work, but you have to cut a few mm off the top of the main shaft. You also have to swap out the linkage ends on the Belt swash to accept the Rex links. The best thing to do is just order the HDX450 Swash from rcsupersales.net

Rex Tail box Yes it will work, but the Belt has alignment holes the Rex does not. Simply cut it down to fit. After the last crash just went back to the Belt tail.. works great…

Using 2200 18C Packs and getting 8 mins run time putting 1250 back into them.

Rex Head on a Belt. This is how I fly it now. Really woke the sleepy Heli up. Still way more docile then a Rex, but now a little snappier. Unless you really want to try a Rex head on the Belt it really is not worth the expense of buying one. Best improvement! With the Rex head I do not need to use those dam shims anymore in the main blades.. Hated those things. Moved the original Belt head to the HBK2 since it is brushless now.

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Mike
11-05-2008 07:14 PM
 
 
keto
New Heliman
Location: rocky mount nc usa

trex blades on belt cp

I have an esky belt cp that had carbon fiber blades and tail on it. I crashed it and broke the main blades so replaced them with wooden blades for main and for tail. Now I cannot get it to trim. It just wants to spin in circles. Help.
11-05-2008 09:04 PM
 
 
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