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Aerial Photography and Video > Finally, its here, the new Canon 5D Mk II with full HD
 
 
dreslism
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Location: Rochester Hills, MI

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By the way, it has max iso on 12800, and not 25600 as stated in press release




Daytona,

All specs I see show the following ISO capability as 25600.
H2 is 25600, but maybe it was not turned on in custom functions on the one you tested on?? 6400 is standard max ISO with H1 and H2 (usually have to be on in custom functions) to get you to 12800 and 25600.

ISO 100 - 6400
• 0.3 or 1.0 EV increments
• Auto ISO (100-3200)
• Expansion options:
ISO 50 (L1)
ISO 12800 (H1)
ISO 25600 (H2)

--Scott
GreatLakesAP.com
09-23-2008 04:10 PM
 
 
daytonabeach
Key Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

Scott, i know, but according to Canon themselves its a typo fault in the press realease, so max is 12800, which will be more than enough, IMO

I dont know why they havent edited that yet... maybe they wanna show of for a while

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09-23-2008 04:15 PM
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meflyjeep
Senior Heliman
Location: On the ground and in the air ...

Keep us posted when it is in your hands.

meflyjeep
09-23-2008 08:01 PM
 
 
daytonabeach
Key Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

I will, look really forward to it, especially after watching the video from Vincent...
By the way, ordered my 5D MkII today

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
09-23-2008 08:11 PM
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rerazor
Elite Veteran
Location: Mich.

Also, update us on the SX-1.
09-23-2008 08:22 PM
 
 
daytonabeach
Key Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

Apart from Ap use, heres Vincents personal opinions about the 5D, still not convinced? Read on ;-)

I had it in my hands for less than 72 hours before I had to send it back - but the time I did have with a prototype of the Canon EOS 5D MKII will possibly change the path of my career as well as the photography industry to some degree.

(The video that will be released very shortly (to be notified when it does go live - go ahead and subscribe to this blog via RSS or e-mail…) I’ll announce it here soon - the main hold up is the large file size of the video - and finding a host for it… if only 100 people hit the video - we’ll hit 9 Gigabytes of streamed video… and that’s with the video that is downsized to 960 x 540 (which is 1/4 of 1080p!) in the Apple H.264 format from the full resolution 1080p RAW footage… the RAW footage that comes out of this camera is STUNNING - so much so that the entire video was cut with the RAW footage - untouched… in any way - no color, noise or exposure adjustment whatsoever… the images you are seeing on this blog - are frame grabs off of the video - those frame grabs were downsized from 1920 pixels wide to 700 pixels wide to fit the page width of this blog - and absolutely NOTHING was done to them either in Aperture/Photoshop or any other software. Also - the image above was shot with a 45mm tilt-shift lens)

Here is the story behind the short video that I produced with what I believe to be a “game changer”of a camera for the following reasons:

1. The 5D MKII camera produces the best stills in low light that I’ve ever seen - what you can see with you eye in the worst light (such as sodium-vapor street lights at 3 a.m. in Brooklyn) - this camera can capture it with ease.

2. It produces the best video in low light that I’ve ever seen - at 1080p. A top commercial film editor who who regularly edits RED camera footage - and has seen the raw footage from the 5D MKII - says the 5D MKII is “far superior to the RED camera” in terms of low light performance…

3. You can use your prime and zoom lenses from your Canon still cameras with it - and shoot wide open… so you can shoot films with fisheye lenses, 50mm 1.2 as well as the 200mm f2 or 400mm 2.8 that you may already own…

4. This camera is so easy to use - that you can work incredibly quickly, mostly handheld - without a huge production - and using natural light - ergo you don’t need a huge budget and tons of preparation anymore… forget the lighting trucks and generators that take up entire city blocks…

5. This camera will sell for approx. $2,700 - and perform better than many $100K plus video cameras out there…

6. Photojournalists in particular - will be able to take full advantage of this camera’s strengths - because they are used to walking into any room, and finding the best natural “available light” in the room - or knowing how to add a single light source to make it pop… they are used to working quickly and with small or no budgets… which is something this camera is begging you to do…

It has the potential to change our industry.

COPYRIGHT LAFORET VISUALS INC. DO NOT COPY. *(See Note at the end of this article)

Here’s a little more of the back story behind this video:

You should know that there was ZERO pre-planning with this project - and that it was done entirely independently from Canon.

While I had anticipated a replacement to the Canon EOS 5D - I had not heard any solid information from anyone. I went to Canon last Friday for lunch with Canon’s David Sparer - it had been more than 6 months since my last visit to the HQ (I am a Canon Explorer of Light - one of the photographers that works with them on making better cameras etc …)

Talk about good timing.

As I walked into the office - I caught a glimpse of a certain type of “box” - one that can only mean one thing… a prototype camera was in the midst…

People were also looking at me in an odd way, slowing their motions.

You see, as I was walking in, they were literally about to unpack the first few prototypes to land in the U.S. - for the very first time.

Someone quickly showed me aside into a cubicle where a blank NDA - a “Non-Disclosure Agreement” - was awaiting my signature… i.e. whatever I was about to see - was secret. After signing I was told:

“These are the prototypes of the Canon 5D MKII” they are the first to land in the U.S. - it can shoot high-definition 1080p video - at 30 fps, and it shoots 21 Megapixel still images. We haven’t had a chance to play with them yet.”

Wow.

We quickly started to work with one of the cameras - to see what the video format was in… at that point - no one even knew what exact video format the camera would produce (things change during the production of a camera…) It produces Apple’s Quicktime .mov files btw - simply copy them off of your CF Cards - double click on them - and they open up in the Quicktime player w/o a single hiccup at 1080p… Drop them into Final cut pro and start your edit… no rendering is necessary. Oh - and realize that it took us less than 20 minutes to copy over more than 12 hours of footage off of the CF cards…

I was amazed at the video quality. I knew right away that this camera would be a success - and that this was something big - I felt that this was something that had the potential to change this industry.

I then found out that these cameras were about to be shipped to a select group of photographers - and that they could not use the in public until the camera was announced… so these cameras would stay dormant for five more days…

“Can I try one out?” I asked.

“No. Sorry.”

Then came lunch. And I made my pitch to David: Allow me to borrow just one of these cameras over the weekend - and I’ll ship it off on Monday to the “chosen” photographer it was destined to go to. They weren’t going to be allowed to take them out into public prior to the big announcement anyway…

COPYRIGHT LAFORET VISUALS INC. DO NOT COPY.*(See Note at the end of this article)

He was interested with the idea - but he was experiencing more doubt than interest - as getting this little “project” off the ground would mean getting through a LOT of RED TAPE within a very short period…

As we returned to the Canon offices - my heart was beating fast - my mind was racing. If I do get this camera I asked myself, what on earth will I be able to shoot with it?

A few nerve-wrecking minutes later - I had my answer:

“You can borrow it for the weekend. You can then produce a video and stills completely independently from Canon U.S.A. If you produce anything interesting we just might be interested in using some of the footage on our website - we’ll talk about that then if that happens. We have no budget to offer you - so you are doing this completely independently from Canon. Deal?”

DEAL.

The problem was: I had no idea what to shoot. The weather forecast for the weekend was poor. It was Friday afternoon and I had a job that night - as well as on the Wednesday of the following week - and I had to get the camera shipped out on Monday…

Not to mention: I have never shot a film before - of any kind - in my life. (Other than 2 videos that I have cut of my son in the past 4 years of his life…)

My mind was racing, I was sweating and my heart was pounding. I was like a kid in a candy store unable to make up his mind on what treat to choose…

In the end - this video was shot with less than 12 hours of pre-production - from the time I got the camera to the time we shouted “Action.”

The budget I set for myself was around $5,000 total - which included $2,000 for a one hour helicopter flight over the city. The short film was shot over two nights - from 5 p.m. to 4 a.m. - with two models, three assistants, a co-director, one editor, and one makeup artist. Both video and still imagery. Along with behind the scenes footage.

Oh - and did I mention we only had ONE battery? (We had to plan on constantly re-charging that one battery throughout the shoot…)

It was shot with 100% still photography equipment (lenses, grip/mounts, and a single Profoto 7b battery strobe pack (the strobe wasn’t used - just the modeling light))- with the exception of an expensive video tripod and head, and an LED light…

If you can’t see how this can all be done in such a short period of time, with zero pre-production, not a single filming or location permit, and on such a small budget - you are missing one of the main reasons this camera is a “Game Changer.”

This camera is the ultimate “equalizer” - you no longer need half-million dollar’s worth of high definition video cameras and lenses delivered by a truck with its own driver to shoot a high definition film in low light - you just need a $2,700 camera and a few lenses - and talented and dedicated friends that you can call on last minute at the drop of a hat.

Everyone has been waiting for the video camera that can also take stills… here’s a still camera that can shoot stunning video.

This is a leap of change that is sped up - it’s happening overnight.

The video or “short film” or whatever you want to call it - will be up as soon as humanly possible (in this case it’s technologically actually - not humanly.) More details to come…. we’re also putting the finishing touches on a behind the scenes video that shows just exactly how this was done…

These are EXCITING TIMES!

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
09-23-2008 10:10 PM
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rerazor
Elite Veteran
Location: Mich.

"Honey, I need the Credit Card"
09-23-2008 10:18 PM
 
 
cgalavis
Heliman
Location: Franklin, WI USA

WOW, I am speechless. The video is simply astonishing, to think you can do all this with a DSLR is just unthinkable. The night shots, the photo quality OMG. You guys need to help me, how can I pass this by my wife????

When everybody actually is out to get you, paranoia is just good thinking.
09-23-2008 10:36 PM
 
 
daytonabeach
Key Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

Rerazor, no, its "honey, I GOT the credit card, dont wait up, tadida!"

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
09-23-2008 10:40 PM
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trackhead
Key Veteran
Location: utah

Not sure if this is posted, but here's a vid.
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008...er-ado-reverie/
09-23-2008 10:49 PM
 
 
daytonabeach
Key Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

Yes, it was posted on the previous page, but this is also the video material he describes in my long post further up on this page...

There is also a behind the scenes movie from that shoot, shot with XH-A1.
http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/g...8891_Jd2CT-A-LB

AND, if you havent already done so, you should take the time to read the cut out from his blog here, if you do, there is no way back

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
09-23-2008 10:54 PM
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rerazor
Elite Veteran
Location: Mich.

09-23-2008 10:58 PM
 
 
trackhead
Key Veteran
Location: utah

I'm buying one for ground footage. Not sure yet about AP with Canon's issues with their HV10,20,30's. But it will be a great tool for ground footage, at a minimum.

Having shallow depth of field AND good glass is a HUGE BONUS! Using 35mm adapters you always lose 1-2 stops of light, and the glass in them isn't the greatest.

This is incredible stuff.
09-23-2008 11:32 PM
 
 
Wayne Mann
Senior Heliman
Location: United States of America

I have only read a few posts in the thread, but I am excited about the potiental of this camera. Like Trackhead I am a little nervous about this camera for AV work. I am using a Canon HF100 and I am getting great footage with it, BUT my Caliber electric machine is tuned to a degree that is so fine it is stupid. My contest machines are glass smooth. When they are in a hover you can't see any movement anywhere, BUT they are junk if I wanted to just stick in an electric motor and strap the HF100 in a semi ridgid mount. It has taken me WAY too long to get it to this point and I get cold chills thinking about the possibility of having to build a second machine. I am actually scared of cleaning anything on the heli as I am very afraid of upsetting the balance somewhere.

So my question is; who is going to be the first to strap in this camera and give it a go with video? If you are close enough to me and willing I would love to strap it in my Caliber 90 electric and do a few test flights. As soon as Ritz gets some in I may have to buy one for a few days of testing, with the added insurance of course. If it is A LOT more tolerante of vibrations than the HF100, I may keep it.

My second issue with this camera for AV work is the 30 fps. I have shot a lot of video with my HF100 in 30P mode. I like the footage in 30P much better than the 60i mode, BUT if you pan the slightest bit too fast or something travels perpendicular to the lens at much speed the object or the whole image (when panning) gets really ugly. If this thing could shoot at least 50 fps it would be fantastic, once we get past the Canon vibration thing.

Canon has some short video clips on their web site and in every clip you will notice that all of the traffic is coming mostly towards the camera and things (cars mainly) are not traveling very fast, as the videos are shot downtown somewhere. Even the models (women) are moving rather slowly.


Wayne Mann
09-24-2008 12:40 AM
 
 
Vortex Aerial
Veteran
Location: Huntington Beach Ca

Wonder what kind, if any, hood mount device they used in some of those shots. I put my HV20 on the hood of my truck once and it waved like "Old Glory"...and it was wrapped in a silicone jacket. Could it be this full frame sensor doesnt have the same stigma as the HDVcams have? Guess time will tell.


EDIT: Just watched that "makeing of" vid. I as well as others here could confirm that if you chucked up an HV10-20-30 to the hood mount they use in this vid youde get unusable results
09-24-2008 12:45 AM
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Dakine
Elite Veteran
Location: OC, Commifornia

And to think Vincent Laforet used to email me for digital imaging advice is mind boggling. I love his work. I'll have to give him a call to pick his brain.

The Canon 200mm f1.8 will be a gem, again.
09-24-2008 01:24 AM
 
 
500Driver
Senior Heliman
Location: Fletcher, NC

Hey Track,

The soundtrack sounds familiar

This camera is just awesome...what's next?

When in doubt...auto out
09-24-2008 04:20 AM
 
 
tabbytabb
Elite Veteran
Location: seattle

Got several on pre-order just to make sure I get one.

Vince is an interesting guy, I had fun meeting him and showing him some pans, his head was really spinning



Tony, we have all asked you for advice in a moment of weakness at one time or another




Tabb
09-24-2008 06:29 AM
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DKTek
Senior Heliman
Location: Melbourne, FL-USA

B&H Photo has them listed at $2700 and due in November. They seem to be a reputable place. Any one have other thoughts or should I just support my local store, Southern Photo?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...5D_Mark_II.html

The beatings will continue until morale improves...
09-24-2008 01:55 PM
 
 
daytonabeach
Key Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

B&H are known to be one of the best photo gear suppliers in US, as far as i know...

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...
09-24-2008 02:10 PM
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