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e-Electric Batteries & Chargers > hyperion chargers?

trex-600
Heliman
Location: USA

whats the difference between the 2

hyperion 610 and hyperion 606i other than the 610 looks to have alot more watts putting out. I only charge at 1c anyways so is the 606i a good charger?

Thanks----

09-14-2008 05:49 AM

MJWS
Key Veteran
Location: Airdrie, AB - Canada

The primary difference is the power output. You only get 50w on the 606i so a 3s pack you will max out around 4A. So a 4000mah 3s pack could be charged at 1C or a 2000 mah pack at 2C. If you are charging a 6s pack you will only get 2A out of it.

The 610 will do 250w which is basically a 6s pack at a full 10A.

The 606 discharges. The 610 with latest patch will discharge through the balance ports to hit a storage voltage (addon via firmware).

Both are good. One is for high power users the other (606) for those with more modest needs.

Mike

09-14-2008 06:15 AM

"Cam"

Veteran - Location: UK -

The 0606i has a very simple menu with only a few information displays.

The 0610 (NET) has loads of features. You and charge packs to any percentage in 5% steps so you can charge to 95% and avoid the slow constant voltage style charge at the end of charging. This is called "Terminal Capacity Selection". You can also set the TCS to stop or continue when it reaches your set value.

The 0610i NET has a lot of settings the 0606 doesn't. You can also tell it your power supply rating so the charger will never over-load it. It will charge a 6S 5000 pack at 10 amps. TWO NET chargers can also be plugged into each other so a 12S pack of two 6'S can be 'sync' charged - balanced to each other.

The 0606i is only 50 Watts and the 0610i NET is 250 Watts. Both charges have built-in balancers and can show you individual cell voltages and the range and average etc.

DSX9
Custom eRaptor 700

09-14-2008 07:04 AM

Helinorth
Senior Heliman
Location: Terrace Bc Canada

Can anyone recommend a good power source for the EOSO610I iwill be charging 3s 2200 and 6s 5000 not to sure what to do here.
thanks Ryan

09-16-2008 06:58 PM

Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

Be aware the Duo requires a 15v input to achieve its max rated output.

Also, the discharge rate is limited to 300mAh which is somewhat useless if you're trying to discharge a large pack to its storage voltage.

09-18-2008 04:00 AM

"Cam"
Veteran
Location: UK

6S 5000 15V PSU 6.85A @ 24.47V = 167.6W
6S 5000 12V PSU 4.96A @ 24.43V = 121.1W

That’s in sync mode just after the CC/CV switch over since the cells were at 4.0V per cell.

The Duo can run from a 24V supply

The DUO can discharge 300mA per cell - this is for balancing - there is no need to discharge LiPo’s unless you are not going to fly them for a month, (even then there's no problem with letting them rest fully charged,) in which case the Duo 2 has a 50W discharger on each port as well as Store Mode.

AceDude do you own a Duo? Stop posting slanderous comments about this product.

Why not post positive ones about your charger instead?

FYI this range of products and all their features is driven by an American.

DSX9
Custom eRaptor 700

09-18-2008 08:30 AM

fenderstrat
Elite Veteran
Location: Aston,Pa

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Be aware the Duo requires a 15v input to achieve its max rated output. Also, the discharge rate is limited to 300mAh which is somewhat useless if you're trying to discharge a large pack to its storage voltage.

what is slanderous about this?facts are facts,people need to know good and bad BEFORE they buy,and the fact that you cant get full output power on 12V is a BIG concern for some people,particularly those that field charge more than home charge

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Why not post positive ones about your charger instead?

because the original poster didn't ask about his charger he asked about the hyperion.

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Futaba FASST

09-18-2008 12:40 PM

"Cam"
Veteran
Location: UK

"somewhat useless" is slanderous.

and "the discharge rate is limited to 300mAh" is wrong.

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because the original poster didn't ask about his charger he asked about the hyperion.

So why on earth is he posting dis-information and why are you defending him? Why are you even posting? Since you noticed what charger the original poster asked about why didn't you provide anything useful?

Isn't a fully charged Lead Acid battery around 14V anyway? (Rhetorical question).

It’s a knowledge base, not a “post what you think you know about something you don’t own or like forum”. Post some info for a change and stop turning every thread where someone asks for help with hyperion into a list of put-downs.

If you had a Mini-Titan, or a Futaba radio, wouldn't you be pleased if someone from TT or Futaba could help you out with any questions? And wouldn't you be a bit baffled if someone from Align or JR had a lot of nothing good to say?

DSX9
Custom eRaptor 700

09-18-2008 03:02 PM

Helinorth
Senior Heliman
Location: Terrace Bc Canada

So back to the question can someone recommend a good psu for the hyperion chargers?If i have to field charge i can just use the truck battery but i do most of my charging at work on 110 volts.
thanks Ryan

09-18-2008 03:14 PM

"Cam"
Veteran
Location: UK

The way to go is to look at what packs you want to charge and work out how many watts that is.
For example to charge a 6S 5000 at 2 Amps = 6 x 4.2 x 5 x 2 = 252 Watts. (240W with the cells at 4.0 Volts each).

Knowing how many watts you want to charge with will help you choose a PSU. I have 600W ones at work but I don't know if they are sold in the US.

DSX9
Custom eRaptor 700

09-18-2008 03:20 PM

Helinorth
Senior Heliman
Location: Terrace Bc Canada

The largest battery i'm going to charge is 6s 5000 and smalls are 3s 2200

09-18-2008 04:05 PM

Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

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Stop posting slanderous comments about this product.

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6S 5000 15V PSU 6.85A @ 24.47V = 167.6W 6S 5000 12V PSU 4.96A @ 24.43V = 121.1W

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The DUO can discharge 300mA per cell

That's hilarious, "Cam" I post two facts about the Duo which you then acknowledge and validate and then you call my comments "slanderous".

Perhaps you don't even have a clue what slanderous means.

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"somewhat useless" is slanderous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libel

09-18-2008 06:34 PM

kcordell
Veteran
Location: O Fallon, MO

I am using an Alinco (ham use) power supply. You can adjust the output voltage if needed or leave it at 13.8. At 34 amps I can use my DUO charging two 5S packs at 3.7 each and my 2 TP1010's charging 2 5S packs at the same time.

http://www.alinco.com/usa.html
Click on the power supply link on the left of the page.
May be a bit pricey ($170), I got a deal on mine on eBay.

Now at Tower:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...?&I=LXUTL8&P=ML

Team Futaba, Miniature Aircraft Pilot, YS Engines, VelTye

09-18-2008 07:23 PM

fenderstrat
Elite Veteran
Location: Aston,Pa

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Post some info for a change and stop turning every thread where someone asks for help with hyperion into a list of put-downs.

nobody posted ANY put downs just FACTS.Every time people try to have a rational discussion about hyperion chargers,you jump all over and insult anyone who posts anything that you even SLIGHTLY dislike.This is not the "CAM " forum where you can control what gets said,and if you like it,its cool and if you dont you get defensive,rude and insulting.people are free to post their opinion thats what this forum is,so you'd better get used to it.you have no right to try to control every hyperion thread there is.all chargers have good and bad traits,and each person has different needs so people need to hear all the facts.you cant just decide which stats get posted and which dont.you take this stuff WAY to personal and need to stop throwing put downs to anybody who disagrees with you

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And wouldn't you be a bit baffled if someone from Align or JR had a lot of nothing good to say?[/color]

I cant even tell you how many times people have ruined a thread with "the MT sucks get a t-rex" or "spectrum is far superior to FASST",its their opinion,you have to live with it and get used to it

PerformancePlusRC field rep
COMPASS helis field rep
Mini Titan/SE
HBK2
Futaba FASST

09-19-2008 12:20 AM

"Cam"
Veteran
Location: UK