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SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

Oh good, I was afraid we wouldn't make it to ten. I'd rather take advise from those who fly several brands. Makes it worth more in my opinion.
03-21-2002 02:38 AM
 
 
MitchD
Senior Heliman
Location: Antioch TN USA

Hey didnt mean to get you all ruffled up,I was just asking a question.
If Jeff G flies anything other than a hirobo product its usually for product evaluation,as his position probably requires,although i've never seen him fly anything else.
I was just curious.
03-21-2002 02:39 AM
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SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

Jeff G is one of those guys who could probably pass the crotch kick test. He seems to really like and support the product.
03-21-2002 02:44 AM
 
 
DrScoles
Veteran
Location: Redmond WA

If you place a few ounces of urine in your CP, it will not smoke, give you slightly higher hp yield while slightly raising head temps...may need to richen main needle slightly.

With wildcat, due to the low oil content, a few drops of semen, (you know how to get that) will dramatically improve run times while giving you that nice feeling...kind of like climbing the rope in gym class...

Not only am I a dentist, I have a PhD in biochemistry with a minor in nuclear gynecology, I feel with my extensive training and superlative background, I am the authority on the useage of methanol derived combustible fluids for the use in remotely controlled helicopters...

If you have further questions you can call me at 1-800-386-2277

Mike
03-21-2002 02:53 AM
 
 
SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

Well we just went from too little info to too much info in just a few posts. Thanks DrScoles, I think.
03-21-2002 02:57 AM
 
 
MitchD
Senior Heliman
Location: Antioch TN USA

Cheap Shots

I dont think asking a question about what brand machine you fly is a "cheap shot"I.
ts hard to tell if youre a rep when you send guys to the "gray market" to buy stuff,then post things about your raptor.
Mike Basura asked me to ask you,he doesnt have internet access.
Most reps dont do that,So I didnt figure you were a rep for anyone.
And another question,are you one of the guys that flies down the street from US Hobbies???in Moonachie??
03-21-2002 02:59 AM
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J Kramer
Heliman
Location: Brownsburg Indiana

I notice that all the kids(acting like kids) are Senior Members in this pissing contest about Wildcat Fuel. You are sure not acting like Seniors, more like a bunch of spoiled brats.
03-21-2002 03:02 AM
 
 
SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

We are certainly not going to get to ten pages with that attitude. Hmmm, well it did add a post I guess. Keep up the good work!

BTW, I am in denial about being a senior member. It may say 290 posts but I don't look a day over 20 posts.
03-21-2002 03:05 AM
 
 
MitchD
Senior Heliman
Location: Antioch TN USA

Senior product coordinator

Thats what jeff is.To evaluate,develop,and test new products and provide marketing analysis in all aspects of radio control products handled by mrc,and then some others for evaluation.Thats part of his job,knowing whats out there.
I wont even drag TB into this.
I dont ever knock anyone for flying any brand,"run what ya brung"yeah we pick on each other at the field,events,and everywhere else,but thats half the fun of the hobby,dont take this stuff personal,we went from fuel to,nuclear gynecology,semen insertion in fuel jugs,and now we need page 12..
03-21-2002 03:18 AM
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Wildcat Fuels
Senior Heliman
Location: Lexington, Ky

Wildcat and Sponsorships

I will try this one last time.

MitchD, Wildcat under NO CIRCUMSTANCES will sponsor ANYONE. I can't seem to figure out why this is so hard to understand. No, if CY wanted a sponsorship we would not comply. Curtis is a fine gentleman whom I respect very much. Wildcat does not sponsor pilots. No means NO.....NO.....NO. Ok, I hope that is clear enough. As I said before our company policy is to NOT sponsor anyone. Wildcat is run a little different than most companies, thats what, I believe makes us successful. If you want to know exactly what that means read the "About Us" section of our web site, it will explain why we run our buisness this way. We do not believe in conditional ethics and if your buisness is "Just about profit" then the enterprise, even if successful, will be an empty one.
As for John Steele's engine, of course it was running. If you have questions for him, as I said, if you really want to know contact me and I will get his permission for you to call him. GM1 also knows John so you might ask him as well.
03-21-2002 03:22 AM
 
 
DrScoles
Veteran
Location: Redmond WA

Hey, does wildcat sponsor pilots??
03-21-2002 03:40 AM
 
 
SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

Hehe, good sense of humor DrScoles.
03-21-2002 03:42 AM
 
 
Wildcat Fuels
Senior Heliman
Location: Lexington, Ky

Stewart

Stewart - Wildcat Fuels stands behind all our products and is proud to do so, if you had a problem all you have to do is call. My personal line is open to anyone. You can reach me toll free at 1-888-815-7575 Mon-Fri from 10-5 EST. I would be glad to help you with your setup.
03-21-2002 03:48 AM
 
 
MitchD
Senior Heliman
Location: Antioch TN USA

"Wildcat under NO CIRCUMSTANCES will sponsor ANYONE. I can't seem to figure out why this is so hard to understand. No, if CY wanted a sponsorship we would not comply."
Mr Conley,please spare us,your business would skyrocket,$$$

"We do not believe in conditional ethics and if your business is "Just about profit" then the enterprise, even if successful, will be an empty one"
People go into business to make $$,many do well with profit and customer satisfaction,thats not empty,Who wants to work for free?.
a conditional ethic?
coming up w stories when neccessary ,thats a conditional ethic


As for John Steele's engine, of course it was running. "over 140 gallons thru it with no wear" mr conley ,this sounds like a "duralube" commercial.what next?he ran it w no oil and it lasted 20 flights at 16000 rpm?
If a average 60 size r/c glow engine breaks in after 2 to 5 gals of fuel
what kind of wear does it have after it has 140 gals thru it????????
I have nothing against anyone using youre product.Just spare us the SnakeOil Sales Bit,
PS This is my reply to Mr Conley as it was directed to me.thanx guys
03-21-2002 03:55 AM
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ZZ3Astro
Senior Heliman
Location: Panama City, Fl

Simple math tells me it would be insane to not sponsor a top pilot if given the opportunity. Assuming a net production cost of $12 per gallon, sponsoring a known pilot who might burn a gallon a day EVERY day would cost $4380.00. If you're not in it "for the money" then take that $4380.00 out of your pocket (surely you're making more than that in yearly profit now!) instead of charging it to your customers. After your top sponsored pilot makes the rounds and newbies see how awesome your product is, you'll have so many new sales that you will forget all about the $4380 you spent.

Something doesn't add up here.. and then you end up with people who can't even make a readable sentence trying to endorse your product.. while the other brand's sponsored pilots are busy burning fuel and getting better - and impressing more new customers to use their choice of fuel!

I'm certainly not knocking your fuel - I'd like to try it out as well.. I'm really just making these comments based on everything I've been reading in this post. And as far as sponsorship, I can speak with experience on the newbie part.. I was out at the fun flys a couple of years ago and when I came back I had to have what I saw on the bad boy's ships:

V-blades (a mistake at the level of flying I was at back then!)
CP30% (didn't NEED 30% but wanted to look like I was good)
rear carbon tail rotor mount (useless but everyone good had them)
Vigor (never got that one at least)

Point being, pro's flying your product sell your product!

Steve
03-21-2002 04:09 AM
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SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

I don't know if business would skyrocket. I don't own nor plan to own a Vigor. The hat? Now I like that hat.

"coming up w stories when neccessary ,thats a conditional ethic "

*Cough* *Cough* Err uh, what about:
"we have never paid anyone to use cool power or omega, because we don't have to period."

"Something doesn't add up here.. and then you end up with people who can't even make a readable sentence trying to endorse your product.. while the other brand's sponsored pilots are busy burning fuel and getting better - and impressing more new customers to use their choice of fuel!"

Actually, the weather is bad and I am working on my own heli related product until it clears. WC doesn't have sposored pilots so you are right that they are not out burning fuel. Their other pilots are burning fuel as well as anybody.
03-21-2002 04:23 AM
 
 
Wildcat Fuels
Senior Heliman
Location: Lexington, Ky

Wildcat

Mitch, if you wish to call John Steele a liar then I am sure he would appreciate it if you do it to his face. He is a very well known and respected flyer, many people know in this industry including CY know and respect him, I have never known him to lie to me or anyone else, I will be glad to tell him that you said so, so that he may contact you at a future date in person to discuss it with you.
As far as your statements as to coming up with "stories" I have no idea what you are talking about. If you are implying that I am not being honest then you need to say that to my face, not behind a computer. I am always available.

ZZ3 - This sounds good until you do the math correctly, take your $4380 and multiply it by about 25 pilots (conservative estimate) thats $109,500 now who pays for that? Do you really think the company just eats that cost.
03-21-2002 04:35 AM
 
 
rickc
Elite Veteran
Location: Creve Coeur IL. (Peoria Area)

I would not run Wild Cat if it was free. I get tired of Jerry promoting his product from forum to forum. I use only PowerMaster fuels. I have so for many years and have never had engine damage stemming from a fuel related issue. Enough said!

Rick
03-21-2002 04:37 AM
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nutswinger
Senior Heliman
Location: TX

now that ya mention it , rick, the only time i ever ran wildcat, was free gallon handed to me by mr conley himself, at a jet fly a goodly number of years ago. that free, unsolicited, gallon cost me 2 os 91 df motors and almost an airframe in one flight. never again has wildcat been in my shop, and never will it be.
there is nothing so costly as that which is "free"
03-21-2002 04:41 AM
 
 
SemiArticulate
Veteran
Location: On Location

YES! we made it to 10 pages. I would like to thank all those who participated even though I did not start this thread. What is the record anyway? We need to beat it.
03-21-2002 04:48 AM
 
 
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