rrTV-PHOTO   New HD TV
HOME   rrTV-PHOTO   GALLERIES   MY GALLERY   HELP-FAQ
myHOME PM pmRR MEMBERS 664 ONLINE 20 EVENTS SEARCH REGISTER  START HERE
 
5 pages [ <<    <    ( 1 )     2      3     NEXT    >> ]2640 viewsPOST REPLY
Advantage Hobby . Revolution Models . CarbonXtreme

.
.
Aerial Photography and Video > SPHERICAL PRO1 out today
 
 
AirFoilAviationVeteran - Location: Quincy, IL. -
First some new products are on the parts page with the two new mounts going up today.

Spherical Pro1
This mount was designed to shoot Solo Spherical shots with a electric or gas heli.

The camera mount was designed very strong and light. Dry weight with servo 2 1/2lbs. As pictured . RTF with a 2lb. Camera and lens and 1320 lipo is 5lbs. 5oz’s.

Certified Welled upper frames made from 6061-T6 aluminum, same material as the skids using carbon legs. The mount uses a certified double frame bearing block to rotate on with 6061T6 aluminum CNC plates. We use a JR modified digital servo with 300in oz of torque. Rotation is 4 seconds using 6 volts or 5 seconds at 4.8 volts. This also can be adjusted by lowering the ATV on the channel used for a slower speed. The camera head will adapt to almost any camera on the market with 5 side to side adjustments 3” overall and 9 up and down adjustment points 5” overall with 10 front to back balance adjustment points to C.G. the mount perfectly 6“ overall. The angle has a sealed rubber pad to hold the camera and arm in the perfect position leaving no chance of slippage

The demo video was the test version. We were able to save 10 oz’s which is why it looks little different then the Spherical Pro1.

The mount is completely assemble including all foam for heli and mount.
Price is $599.00

Demo video

Spherical Pro1













Hope this info helps

John

Team AirFoil
08-25-2008 04:28 PM
 
 
rroback
Elite Veteran
Location: Irvine (UCI), Ca

looks nice and simple. can you show close ups of the head? It does have side to side adjustment, so you can get the lense in the middle of the pan axis?

Rhett... I can't fly, luckily the HC Profi Can!
08-25-2008 09:43 PM
 
 
aambrose
Elite Veteran
Location: Pana, IL

Quote 
It does have side to side adjustment, so you can get the lense in the middle of the pan axis?
This is something I've been wondering about and I've heard some comments from a few through emails and PMs but would like to hear from others.

Just how critical is it that the camera pans around the nodal point while shooting aerial panos? No one can hold a hover so steady that the point isn't going to move. I mean, if you have the nodal point mounted within a few inches of the pan axis, won't that be close enough? I would think having the mount balanced around the pan axis would be more critical in this application.

Thanks!


Tony
08-25-2008 10:50 PM
 
 
AirFoilAviation
Veteran
Location: Quincy, IL.

Quote 
I would think having the mount balanced around the pan axis would be more critical in this application

This is very true.

Quote 
It does have side to side adjustment, so you can get the lense in the middle of the pan axis?

Yes the pic should show what you are talking about.



Let me know if you have more questions.

John

Team AirFoil
08-25-2008 11:05 PM
 
 
rerazor
Elite Veteran
Location: Mich.

C'mon, that is a mini pro 1 with a "L" bracket for a gimbal. Okay it was a fixed Pro 1 self leveling bar and a "used car salesman" promo video. Sorry John, but I'm a little disappointed in the hype. Don't get me wrong I'm sure its built very well but I have been shooting Panos with a Mini Pro 1 and a inexpensive homemade portrait mounted gimbal for well over a year.

Actually, I'm currently using a mini pro 1 with your GP1 landing gear with great results because it is wide enough not to have to worry about the noodles getting in the picture.
08-25-2008 11:06 PM
 
 
AirFoilAviation
Veteran
Location: Quincy, IL.

You are wrong but that's ok. The bottom H bracket is designed 1 1/2" wider then the other. The top bracket will let you adjust so you can use wide or narrow landing gear. The plates are machined a 1/4" wider than the others plus it's dampened 3 times and uses a different servo and gear combo. The center tube is also different.

Glad to see you are happy with what you have.

Pictures are hard to tell by so I understand.

Quote 
used car salesman" promo video
Thanks I didn't produce it. The guy that did produced the Sports machine on NBC for 5 years.
I wasn't jumping for joy but wouldn't be that rude.

Questions are fine, that does no one any good.

John

Team AirFoil
08-25-2008 11:22 PM
 
 
rerazor
Elite Veteran
Location: Mich.

Quote 
I wasn't jumping for joy but wouldn't be that rude.

Figure of speech, nothing personal. Busy working in NYC this week, jumping WiFi spots.
08-26-2008 01:57 AM
 
 
Makiedog
Senior Heliman
Location: Minneapolis

I wish you had implemented some purposely designed shelves for holding all the electronics such as receiver, batteries, etc. Adjustable will be better, which allows one to balance the weight.

PL
08-26-2008 02:22 AM
HOMEPAGE  
 
 
Soundwave
Heliman
Location: USA

there's no way for it to shoot the straight down shot???
08-26-2008 08:47 AM
 
 
Griffo
Senior Heliman
Location: Canberra, Australia

Soundwave, Pano shots are taken consecutivley in a full 360 rotation with the cam pointed down on an angle. This angle includes the Nadir and a small portion of the sky so a shot straight down is not required.

For this reason it is quite simple and MUCH cheaper to build your own.

John, it's certainly a nice solid looking mount you've got there. I must say, your marketing skills are exceptional.

Although having watched the vid I'm not too sure that an L bracket is really "breaking new ground".
08-26-2008 09:32 AM
 
 
nooobs
Key Veteran
Location: Toronto, Canada

Quote 
This angle includes the Zenith

Not zenith... it's nadir.
08-26-2008 09:35 AM
HOMEPAGE  
 
 
Griffo
Senior Heliman
Location: Canberra, Australia

Thanks Noobs, I corrected as soon as I'd posted. It's getting late here and I need a coffee!
08-26-2008 09:38 AM
 
 
switch26
Key Veteran
Location: CA

so all in all,what makes this mount better than the mini pro?

A Positive Something is Better Than a Negative Nothing
08-26-2008 09:38 AM
HOMEPAGE  
 
 
Griffo
Senior Heliman
Location: Canberra, Australia

An "L Bracket"

Sorry, couldn't resist .

It looks like it also has a slightly wider footprint.
08-26-2008 09:40 AM
 
 
AirFoilAviation
Veteran
Location: Quincy, IL.

Actually it looks like a Pro1 but in reality until you are shooting spherical’s you won't understand why we made all the changes.

Little things like we machined the brackets at 20 degrees instead of 30 to make the legs a little straighter. The main tube that connects to the head bracket is held on to the tube with U clamps then above that is 4 rubber dampeners. Why? Because when you are shooting at 4 seconds and you hit the switch this will jerk the heli so we let the mount absorb some of the start up and stretch and contract to try to keep things level on the rotation.

We then went to a different servo/gear combo.

Yes it's wider and taller than a Mini Pro1.

You haven't seen it yet but with the adapter you can now take the same mount you flew outside inside a building or room and shoot the inside view also by just changing the sub trims and shooting a slow 30 second rotation.

Yes it could shoot straight down easy but not sure why you would want to.

These are just some of the things that went into the design to make it user friendly. Giving you the ability to shoot spherical’s right out of the box.

Another thing that you want to do is run the shortest symm blade you can at a high head speed. This will help with problems in altitude change when going into a hover in wind. Lets you cut the wind like a jet not a prop plane. Trying to answer some emails on here for all to read.

John

Team AirFoil
08-26-2008 01:49 PM
 
 
Griffo
Senior Heliman
Location: Canberra, Australia

Apart from the change in gearing I'm still not sure how the changes you've made are breaking new ground.

For less than $120 my homemade pano mount does the same thing.
08-26-2008 02:06 PM
 
 
AirFoilAviation
Veteran
Location: Quincy, IL.

That's why you are PMing about buying a modified used Mini Pro1?

I have no idea what you have? I know how this mount works and why it's designed the way it is.

So you can shoot shperical's right from the box that stitch easy and fast. That will make you money. If you want to do R&D to build a mount that does this, there's nothing wrong with that. Most just want something that will last and work from day one that's been tested.

User friendly and durable. That's what you want when you are doing jobs in real life for hire. This mount does that.

Hope this helps.

John

Team AirFoil
08-26-2008 02:24 PM
 
 
nooobs
Key Veteran
Location: Toronto, Canada

But John, it's still the complete Mini-Pro1 with the mods for $195.
08-26-2008 02:50 PM
HOMEPAGE  
 
 
AirFoilAviation
Veteran
Location: Quincy, IL.

The truth. It was a crashed Mini Pro1 that wasn't purchased new as stated. It's the reason the upper H frame is cut and parts are missing. It came with a cnc'ed 88 tooth gear that was changed with a 88 tooth raptor gear? It came with a $100.00 pan servo not a $19.00 like now. When you know the truth it's priced about right or a little high.

FYI when you are doing these for real hooking directly to the heli isn't a good thing at all. Being able to move the mount around then when ready place the heli on top saves the chance of anything happening to the heli while you are mounting the camera let alone hauling the machine always on the mount.

It just stuck me as funny the guy blowing smoke about a great home made mount is trying to buy a used/crashed/chopped Mini Pro1 for $195.00.

Noobs
BTW you do some nice indoor work. Really a nice setup for customers to use and see.

John

Team AirFoil
08-26-2008 03:22 PM
 
 
rerazor
Elite Veteran
Location: Mich.

Quote 
Because when you are shooting at 4 seconds and you hit the switch this will jerk the heli so we let the mount absorb some of the start up and stretch and contract to try to keep things level on the rotation.

The best solution for that is to start the rotation after take off and let the mount spin (somewhat like a gyroscopic effect). Then just trigger the shutter when ready and in position.

I actually start the mount spinning, auto-trim the HC (if needed)and then fly into position.

I have my heli directly mounted to the mounts with a quick wing nut setup. I found the bungee cord method can cause unwanted "swaying" etc.. Don't get me wrong I shot for awhile with the bungee cords but saved a lot of weight removing the top "H" plate and eliminating the Helis landing gear.
08-26-2008 03:38 PM
 
 
5 pages [ <<    <    ( 1 )     2      3     NEXT    >> ]2640 viewsPOST REPLY
Midland Helicopters . HeliProz . ZoomsHobbies

.
.
Aerial Photography and Video > SPHERICAL PRO1 out today
 PRINT TOPIC Advertisers 

Subscribe to This Topic

Saturday, November 22 - 4:03 pm - Copyright © 2000 - 2008 runryder.com | email | link to rr | runryder needs cookie