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Off Topics > Who really cares about giving to the needy McCain/Obama?
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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Not really, the McCain family will beat the Obama family hands down... Cindy McCain founded the American Voluntary Medical Team in 1988 and donated tens of millions of dollars to supply treatment and food to poor sick children around the world.

Don't forget McCain's wife adopted that kid from outside the USA.

In comparison, Yomama Obama has a bother in Kenya living in a shack on $1.00 per month. Thats $12.00 per year. Very charitable.

08-25-2008 09:05 PM
 
 
dotcom
Heliman
Location: USA

I see that the token insane nowegian has perpetrated another "troll-by".

strolling and trolling, that's how he rocks
08-25-2008 09:18 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

And what %age of her income would that make?

Supposedly a leftie :-) And another one ignored...
08-25-2008 09:50 PM
 
 
RonHill
Veteran
Location: ..

Tintin

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You're catching up Ron.....less money than both of them....

Caught up and passed you long ago.

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Interesting how you on one side state McCain and on the other the Obama family.....wouldn't it be more interesting to compare both families?

As others have pointed out...Cindy McCain is no slouch in charitable giving.
  • She adopted a child from Bangladesh that needed several operations to fix a cleft palate.
  • Serves on the board of Halo Trust...An organization that clears landmines and provides food and water to needy areas
  • Serves on the board of Operation Smile a group that travels and provides cleft lip and palate repair surgeries to children worldwide, assists countries in reaching self-sufficiency with these surgeries, and works to eliminate the occurrence of cleft lips and palates.
  • Started the American Voluntary Medical Team that organized trips by medical personnel to disaster-struck or war-torn third-world areas.
  • She is the chair of Operation CARE http://www.care.org/about/boardbios.asp?id=13
  • She continues to be an active philanthropist and serves on the boards of several charitable organizations.

So again you really have no idea what you are talking about.

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I wonder how many is helped by percentages and how many by the actual money ....

Now you do have a point there....I will easily admit that the more the actual cash, the more good they do. If you want to go there, then the US is by far the most generous nation and people in the World. Even though some countries have higher per capita rates of giving.

But, you just keep ignoring that Obama is supposed to be the one that cares about the little guy, yet the data shows that McCain is that guy.

It's pretty clear that the McCains give a lot more than the Obama's.
08-25-2008 09:54 PM
 
 
dotcom
Heliman
Location: USA

Cindy probably makes more than the GDP of norway, but who cares?

It's not her fault that people like to drink Budweiser.
08-25-2008 09:59 PM
 
 
dotcom
Heliman
Location: USA

What about Michelle Obama getting a $200,000 per year pay raise at a not-for-profit hospital shortly after Obama was elected and then BO gets that same hospital a $1,000,000 dollar earmark.

Change, huh?
08-25-2008 10:10 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Well Ron, you were the one making a point with your percentages, now it seems they do not matter anymore.

I'm glad you can admit the actual sum means more to those that receive than the percentage given. Which btw for BO was 50% higher than JMC as per your facts.

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Even though some countries have higher per capita rates of giving.
Yup, I know of 1 that I won't mention...which donates 3 times as much per capita I think it is...

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It's pretty clear that the McCains give a lot more than the Obama's.

Oh, how can that be so clear when you don't know what amount the female part of the JMC family donates? You're guessing again?

How much is Mrs BO donating? Or shall we try to stick with the initial figures for the men only were BO gave 50% more?

Supposedly a leftie :-) And another one ignored...
08-25-2008 10:21 PM
 
 
RonHill
Veteran
Location: ..

Tintin

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Well Ron, you were the one making a point with your percentages, now it seems they do not matter anymore.

No, *you* claim they don't matter. You didn't like them so you tried to change the data used. But evidence shows that no matter what set of data you want to use....You are still wrong.

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Oh, how can that be so clear when you don't know what amount the female part of the JMC family donates? You're guessing again?

Again its clear that you would rather go with your own feelings than look at facts.

  • She adopted a child from Bangladesh that needed several operations to fix a cleft palate.
  • Serves on the board of Halo Trust...An organization that clears landmines and provides food and water to needy areas
  • Serves on the board of Operation Smile a group that travels and provides cleft lip and palate repair surgeries to children worldwide, assists countries in reaching self-sufficiency with these surgeries, and works to eliminate the occurrence of cleft lips and palates.
  • Started the American Voluntary Medical Team that organized trips by medical personnel to disaster-struck or war-torn third-world areas.
  • She is the chair of Operation CARE http://www.care.org/about/boardbios.asp?id=13
  • She continues to be an active philanthropist and serves on the boards of several charitable organizations.

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Yup, I know of 1 that I won't mention...which donates 3 times as much per capita I think it is...

Good, cause according to your logic that does not matter.

You really need to get a new shtick....You are getting old each time you are proven wrong and the best you can do is some emotional argument. You are not even fun anymore.
08-25-2008 10:29 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Ah, good old copy'n paste technique to avoid answers, good one Ron..lot of lines but no content....

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But evidence shows that no matter what set of data you want to use....You are still wrong.

Since I used your set of data, then that would make you wrong to I guess....

Supposedly a leftie :-) And another one ignored...
08-26-2008 08:09 AM
 
 
RonHill
Veteran
Location: ..

Tintin

Oh look guys...Tintin has nothing so he avoids everything.

Really, get a new shtick....If this is the best you can do, I am not going to continue to waste my time with you.
08-26-2008 04:20 PM
 
 
1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

Let's compare Mrs. O and Mrs. McCain.

What is Mrs. O doing to help people who are less fortunate than her? Campaigning for her hubby...

Meanwhile, Mrs. McCain is headed to the war torn Republic of Georgia to assess humanitarian needs.

No contest, The McCains are better people!

Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?
08-26-2008 08:42 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Pathetic Ronnie

Supposedly a leftie :-) And another one ignored...
08-26-2008 10:16 PM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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Let's compare Mrs. O and Mrs. McCain.

What is Mrs. O doing to help people who are less fortunate than her? Campaigning for her hubby...

Meanwhile, Mrs. McCain is headed to the war torn Republic of Georgia to assess humanitarian needs.

No contest, The McCains are better people!

Is that pathetic Tintin?

Or, do you still want to side step the issue?

Its OK if you want to side step. We all know how you are.

08-26-2008 10:19 PM
 
 
GyroFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Florida ... 28° 50' N 81° 16' W

Good gawd, why do we even bother to answer the tinman. He already has stated if the facts aren't in his favor he ignores them. What a dufus...

EDIT: I wonder if LouISD and Tinman are related, you know maybe joined at the head ???

Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. !
08-26-2008 10:33 PM
 
 
dotcom
Heliman
Location: USA

Loo and TinTin are one and the same.
08-26-2008 10:58 PM
 
 
Dennis
Senior Heliman
Location: Orygon

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Loo and TinTin are one and the same.

I don't think Tintinny is as bad of a lost soul as LooLoo Lou. LooLoo Lou is a whole class unto himself. In other words, he is just plain wacky left.

If you run figures by Tintinny, he can twist them around. Thats been Ron's problem with him. Tintinny likes to do that to Ron.

But, if you run by common sense issues with him, he will loose his argument. But, you got to keep at him, or he will sidestep, or not respond at all.
08-26-2008 11:04 PM
 
 
GyroFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Florida ... 28° 50' N 81° 16' W

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But, if you run by common sense issues with him, he will loose his argument. But, you got to keep at him, or he will sidestep, or not respond at all.
I'v noticed when LouLou loses, and he always does, he just starts another thread.

Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. !
08-26-2008 11:14 PM
 
 
Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Dennis: Ronnie = Ron, 1stPlace = 1st.....

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Tintinny likes to do that to Ron.

Poor Ronnie, I'll try to be nice with him...

Supposedly a leftie :-) And another one ignored...
08-27-2008 11:05 AM
 
 
dotcom
Heliman
Location: USA

loo and tintin just woke up together and had a spat
08-27-2008 11:08 AM
 
 
dotcom
Heliman
Location: USA

double coyote ugly, jeez
08-27-2008 11:10 AM
 
 
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