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Events, Shows and Fun Flys > Heli Nats at IRCHA '09?
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

I wish we could do polls here, as this is a perfect example.

There is some talk among the FAI/AMA contest crowd about the possibility of having the US Helicopter National Championships at the 2009 IRCHA Jambo. The idea was born from the brain of Brett Horton, AKA CopterViews, and is proposing that the contest would be held on a different site from the main IRCHA line on site 4, likely Site 3 RC Multipurpose, therefore not taking airspace or flight stations from the Jambo. With the advent of spread spectrum, the problem with shared frequency use is negligable, or 2.4 could be mandated for Nats pilots.

We are all just brain storming right now, so nothing is formally proposed. I just wanted to toss up this ball and see if anyone would run with it.

One thought of mine is to keep the Nats contest open throughout the event, to allow folks to enter the AMA classes at any time. Maybe you see the class manuevers and decide later to try it. In this case, you could enter as a "non-compete" entrant to test yourself and see what it's like to participate in a contest without having to wait till the next year. As always, the Heli Nats is an open event that does not require any pre-qaulifications to enter. You can actually never have flown in a contest before, and enter the Nats and fly F3C.

Other ideas and comments are highly encouraged. I know there are lots of you out there that are interested in precision flying, but have never seen a contest or the style for yourself in person. At the same time, most of you don't have the means to attend both the Nats and IRCHA, and therefore chose IRCHA because it's a known quantity. Then there's the international crowd that could also participate in the US Heli Nats.

So, what do you all think of the concept?

Erich

Team Kyosho Regional Field Representative
08-14-2008 01:42 AM
 
 
RCHeliJim
Elite Veteran
Location: Orem, UT USA

I think it would be wonderful. Count me in for a vote on the "poll"



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08-14-2008 02:25 AM
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MooneyDriver
Veteran
Location: Kent, Ohio

I can't think of a better way to promote the Nats, except maybe providing a supermodel for each competitor to keep their canopy/fuse nice and shiny!

-Neil

Hey man, why does my lipo get bigger every time I charge it?
08-14-2008 03:32 AM
 
 
Ace Dude
Elite Veteran
Location: USA

Sounds like a great idea to me!

In order for this to happen some dates would obviously need to be changed. I assume the Jamboree would be moved to July to coincide with the existing Nats schedule?



08-14-2008 04:05 AM
 
 
BarracudaHockey
rrMaster
Location: Orange Park FL

That would make way too much sense that the guys that fly in the nats could make just one trip.

Can't be a government operation!

I say GO 4 IT


AMA 77227
http://www.jaxrc.com
08-14-2008 10:59 AM
 
 
ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

AceDude:

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In order for this to happen some dates would obviously need to be changed. I assume the Jamboree would be moved to July to coincide with the existing Nats schedule?


No, the Nats would move dates to coincide with IRCHA, instead.

Remember, it is each AMA Special Interest Group (SIG) that holds their respective Nationals. The AMA only provides a Date, Logistics, and Property. Technically, each SIG could have it's Nationals anywhere, anytime they want.

IRCHA actually sponsors and supports the Heli Nats already, we just propose holding the Nationals in concert with the Jambo.

Erich

Team Kyosho Regional Field Representative
08-14-2008 11:19 AM
 
 
CHiatt
Heliman
Location: Winter Garden, FL

Add another yes...

I'm all for this... we've long been agonizing who/what/when/where and how to promote contest flying. The IRCHA Jamboree is the largest gathering of rotary wing pilots there is and offers the ideal atmosphere to expose and promote.

Plus, it would benefit me too... I don't ever seem to have the vacation time to do both events and would love to go to the Jamboree again.

Maybe somebody there this year can ping the priciples and get a better 'read' on the idea.

Leave it to the newest guy in the fold to get the creative juices flowing again... way to go Brett!

Cliff
08-14-2008 01:41 PM
 
 
Brett Horton
Key Veteran
Location: ---------

I am enjoying contest flying and want it to continue!
Sometimes a new guy just sees the obvious that the old dogs (HA HA) don't!
P.S. and when I say OLD I mean Wayne......
08-14-2008 01:47 PM
 
 
George Matthews
Key Veteran
Location: N.W. Ohio

Guys I also see this as a great idea and would support this.
The potential exposure that may be gained from just such a move is what our segment of the hobby needs. I wouldn't see this as negitive for the IRCHA group, just a pooling of most all aspects and talents that RC helis has to offer. In fact this makes so much sense that it is hard to believe this hasn't been thought of before.
New blood leads to new ideas. Thanks Brett.


Oh and yes Neil the supermodel idea is long overdue and I know with your contacts you can make it happen!

George Matthews
Team MRC/Hirobo
Team Wildcat Fuels
RCPrecisionHeli.com
08-16-2008 03:52 PM
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ampex456
Senior Heliman
Location: Bayville, NJ

The Worlds, the Nats, The Jamboree all in one week. Good idea. More to watch at the Jamboree. That is why there are carts and cars to get around that sight.

That is certainly heli overload in 2009!

jg

Still no problems, only solutions, governed by MARSHALL AMPLIFICATION
08-18-2008 02:43 PM
 
 
CJames
Elite Veteran
Location: Back in KC

Quote 
Then there's the international crowd that could also participate in the US Heli Nats.


Quick question with the above quote,
I thought the Nats were the deciding factor for picking the U.S team {whos on it} qualifing to compete in another world wide compition?

Also, what about fees? Do we have to pay the 45 bucks at Ircha and pay another fee to compete in the Nats?

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08-19-2008 05:26 AM
 
 
Foamy Love
Heliman
Location: Shelby Township, MI

Count me in too!! I don't have enough vacation time to do both so having NATS at IRCHA would be the whip.

Adam Hartzell
Prop-Shop Hobbies
RCbooya
08-19-2008 03:08 PM
 
 
dsmit258
Senior Heliman
Location: Knoxville, TN

I have never competed before, I think this would be great and I would definitely consider entering.....

David E. Smith
President, ETMHS
AMA 579111
IRCHA 2336
08-19-2008 03:12 PM
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Foxden
Key Veteran
Location: Port Charlotte, FL. USA

Erich

I think you might be on to something, I would really enjoy watching you, Scott G, Gordie and Rolondo tear up the sky, they would be renting a bunch more golf carts so we can zip over to check out the F3C stuff

Clyde Fox
Port Charlotte FL
RJX of USA Field Rep
Team Outrage
Morgan Fuel Rep
08-19-2008 10:58 PM
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ErichF
Key Veteran
Location: Odessa, FL 33556 (Tampa Area)

I'm really happy to see the support from such a broad base of pilots here. Thank you all!

CJames:
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Also, what about fees? Do we have to pay the 45 bucks at Ircha and pay another fee to compete in the Nats?


This is something to be worked out by IRCHA and AMA. To enter the Nats, there is a $45 base fee, plus whatever amount the SIG applies to the event ($55 for AMA class 3 this year.) I would imagine to participate in both events (Nats and Jambo) we would have to pay fees for both, as that would only be fair to each side. There's never a fee to spectate either event, so I wouldn't imagine one would in this case either.

Erich

Team Kyosho Regional Field Representative
08-20-2008 12:00 AM
 
 
legoman67
Elite Veteran
Location: Nanoose Bay B.C, Canada

yes awesome idea, planning and organizing will just get more complex though... the ircha crew already have alot to plan.

Matt M.
http://www.filepile.ca
08-20-2008 04:32 PM
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lithiumstatic
Senior Heliman
Location: Tyler, Texas

Yes that would be a great idea!!!!!
08-20-2008 09:17 PM
 
 
Brett Horton
Key Veteran
Location: ---------

Bump
08-25-2008 05:14 PM
 
 
RyeGuy83
Senior Heliman
Location: Crest Hill, IL - United States

I am all in for having Nats at the Jamboree! good idea.

AMA Member #914650
Custom E-Flite Blade 400
08-27-2008 02:10 AM
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Thomas L Erb
Veteran
Location: Alliance ohio

Hi All!!!! you all need to also see whats going on in this thread also

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t455429p1/

Erich You can count me in also!!!!!

I understand that this will cause a major overload to the IRCHA staff. what we need to convince the people that have run the nats so EXCELLENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!! for so many years for us that we will give them the help that they will need to pull this off! Craig Bradly just cant do this alone. He will be so deeply involved in the worlds and the jamboree this coming year that i get the feeling that adding the nats this year would be an overload of bibical proportions (this is just my opinion of his thoughts and dont wish to speak for him but i feel his pain). So if this is really what we want ( and i am all for it) then I will be the first to say that I WILL HELP this happen even if it means i dont have the time to compete this year.

My other question for thought here is will the US team members want to fly in july and aug or would they rather fly the worlds and then the nats?

So what we need is a list of those who are willing take the load off Craig and pitch one in for the "Gipper" . He needs to be there because he is the Best Man for the job and it just wouldnt be the same with out him. This also means that more help will be needed on the Jamboree side to see that it comes off with its usual splender.

So here it starts. our RR version of a "Craigs list"

1: Tom Erb ( ill be there anyway to work the worlds lol
2: Is it you?

Tom
08-29-2008 04:58 AM
 
 
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