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Thunder Tiger Raptors 30-90 - Imperio > RAPTOR 30 Throttle Setup

taterm6
Heliman
Location: Fayetteville, Ga

I just built a Raptor 30 v2 and am getting a little confused on my setups...I only sport fly and am tring to setup my throttle and pitch curves in normal mode...

What should my pitch range be? The manual says 0/+8...but dont I want a little negative in there?

How should I setup the throttle...0 at low stick and linear throughout? Does the throttle need to be setup where I use the trim to shut it down? if so, how does that work?

Right now I have it linear from 0 to 100 (with end points adjusted just a touch for no binding.) and my trim and subtrim is centered.

I have a Futaba Radio with 5 point curves.

Thanks.

08-04-2008 06:17 AM

PJRono
Veteran
Location: Ham Lake, MN - USA

If your just hovering you really don't need any(or very much) negative pitch. I would set it up as this (low stick to high).

Pitch
1) 45
2) 47.5
3) 50
4) 75
5) 100

Throttle
1) 0
2) 15
3) 35
4) 75-80
5) 100

That should put you in the ball park as far as numbers in the radio.

Pitch
1) -2
2) -1
3) 0
4) 5-6
5) 10-11

This should work if everything is set up square.

The Crappie Flop is my favorite dance!

08-04-2008 07:18 AM

PJRono
Veteran
Location: Ham Lake, MN - USA

Just remember NOT to slam the throttle/collective stick down when you want to land. Move the stick slowly!

The Crappie Flop is my favorite dance!

08-04-2008 07:20 AM

Drunk Monk
rrProfessor
Location: Preston, UK

I would say -2 to +9 on the pitch for a raptor 30

Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

08-04-2008 09:30 AM

TachyonDriver
Veteran
Location: Chipping, Lancs, UK

I concur with DM - at least the -2 degrees will allow some descent control in windy conditions, perhaps enough for autorotation too

Tach.

Little Spinning Bundle of Joy® DON'T DISS THE DINO!!

08-04-2008 11:06 AM

JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Yup, -2 at least. Gotta be able to still land the thing when it has a relative airflow through the disc!

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz

08-04-2008 01:09 PM

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taterm6
Heliman
Location: Fayetteville, Ga

With a linear pitch curve 0,25,50,75,100 i have -4/+13. Do I need to mechanically even this out to have the same positive and negative?

My pitch curve ends up being as follows:

8,23,30,57,78

-3,-1.5,0,6,9.5

Throttle Curve is currently set to:

0,15,35,75,100

*keep in mind im only setting normal mode for stunt flying. I just need to know if I need to mechanically even out the pitch +/- or if the above situation is ok. Thanks for the help.

08-04-2008 11:25 PM

Drunk Monk
rrProfessor
Location: Preston, UK

You could go 1 hole in on the servo horn to knock 2 degrees off either end, probably the easiest way.

Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....

08-04-2008 11:44 PM

JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

IMHO, YES, mechanically, you should be at 0 deg at mid stick and have a linear and symmetrical pitch range from top to bottom. From there, you make any 'limitations' to that range IN the radio. That way when you are ready to change things it is a simple matter of a change in a radio screen. Plus your fingers will not have to re-learn where 0 deg is.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, T700N, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz

08-04-2008 11:46 PM

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Lamar Cooley
Senior Heliman
Location: Houma,La.,U.S.A.

throttle setup

taterm6,
If you haven't already done so.
Check out [url=http://raptortechnique.com]
This is a great site about Raptors.
Then you will be ahead of the "curve" when you're ready to move up.
Regards

here when wanted; there when needed; everywhere when looked for

08-05-2008 05:58 AM

Pull-n-Pitch
Veteran
Location: Mt. Dora, Florida (USA)

taterm6-
Just interjecting here...
You stated you have "-4 to +13" degrees???????
If your not running an aftermarket head how did you obtain that?

My point here is +13 is beyond the "normal" limits of the R30 V2 so if your reading this +13 then your 0 degrees at center stick may be off...
YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK YOUR PITCH GAUGE OR MAKE SURE YOUR FLYBAR IS 100% level....

I am just trying to prevent false readings of the pitch gauge!
This WILL assist you in dialing in the helo to your settings!

Also remember, Linkage lengths, Ball link locations all have a effect on the pitch so somebody might advise a "output" number, but the accurate way is to keep the pitch gauge on and have the throttle run with the pitch, this will prevent over-revving or bogging....

Pull-n-Pitch

08-06-2008 02:24 AM

T-Rex-Flyer
Key Veteran
Location: Panama City, Fl

I find these items helpful during setup.

http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/me...Code=JCSLTR3050

http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/me...e=RAYSDVDMANUAL

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

08-06-2008 04:50 AM

PJRono
Veteran
Location: Ham Lake, MN - USA

The reason why is obvious. His linkages are the wrong length. The short double links come premade so it's probably the long links that are off. He should be able to get 21* total. +/-10.5 in idle up.

The Crappie Flop is my favorite dance!

08-06-2008 02:23 PM

taterm6
Heliman
Location: Fayetteville, Ga

I went back into it last night and re-sized all my collective links...and was only able to obtain +12/-7. (0 at mid stick) I guess if I messed with the long links some more it would eventually come into specs but I left it like this. I adjusted my curve from here to be -2, -1, 5.5, 7.5, 9.5. I may go back in a few days from now to mess with it again, but I think its fine...I eventually want to upgrade the head anyway. My throttle curve as of now is 0, 40, 50, 60, 100. I am hopeing that this will give me a good smooth hover and a hover at "half stick". Thanks for everyones input thus far.

08-06-2008 04:14 PM

T-Rex-Flyer
Key Veteran
Location: Panama City, Fl

When you're doing the initial setup to get the throws equal for both positive and negative, you need to have you're pitch and throttle curves linear. 0,25,50,75,100, and no mixers enabled.

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

08-06-2008 08:47 PM

taterm6
Heliman
Location: Fayetteville, Ga

Thats what I did...I followed the manual to a t on the linkage links and thats where I got +12/-7 I did not however mess with the long links to try and even it out. my pitch arm is fully extended in both directions (I had to use my endpoint settings so that it wouldn't bind) so I know I am getting full travel I would just need to adjust the long links to get it into even specs.

08-06-2008 08:55 PM

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