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e-Electric General Discussion > Best $200 Electric
 
 
pedalslowly
New Heliman
Location: Birmingham, AL

Even though I owned a couple of nitros a few years back and currently own an Ergo Z230 Gasser, I have never really gotten to what I would call "Good" at flying. I mean I can do tail in hovering, side to side hovering and some forward flight, but I just don't feel real comfy..I continue to practice on my sim and am getting pretty good at nose in. The last time out with the gasser I had a mishap (bad connection on the battery)that did some minor damage to it. But even minor can easily cost $200 or more.

I think it would be best for me to fine an inexpensive to purchase and maintain electric to hone my skills with. Only problem is I need to try and stay below $200 bucks RTF. I've seen several helis for this price range. One that looks most interesting is the Esky electric. I like the belt drive tail rotor?

What are some pros and cons about various helis in this price range??

Thanks in Advance!
08-02-2008 01:01 AM
 
 
Roscoe
Senior Heliman
Location: northfield,ohio - USA

Pro's = cheap.
Con's = you get what you pay for, but for a couple hundred bucks your not worried as much about crashing. Just check out the e-sky and other forum's to get an idea about what other people are saying and get something that your local hobby store stock's so your not waiting for the UPS guy to bring your spare part's after a crash.

Good luck.

Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you.
08-03-2008 12:31 AM
 
 
Heli 770
Elite Veteran
Location: Lemon Grove, Ca. USA.

You might consider buying used?
08-03-2008 12:43 AM
 
 
"Cam"
Veteran
Location: UK

Bad plan.

You'll find the tiny electric almost impossible to fly if you are used to flying a large gasser. Small helis are upset by any small control input or gust of wind and they are endlessly fussy to setup and also brittle. On top of that the ground clearance for a micro heli is so minimal it leaves almost no margin for error.

What you save on the RTF kit price of a nano nat heli will soon cost you more in spare parts. Are you going bald yet? Get a .30 or .50 size to practice with!
08-03-2008 03:02 AM
 
 
Flyhigh8
Heliman
Location: MA

I agree! I have a HBK2 great little Heli however the thing is so brittle. Haven't had it in the air too long but have spent way to much $$ on parts. Any little misshap will cost ya...
08-08-2008 01:53 AM
 
 
pedalslowly
New Heliman
Location: Birmingham, AL

Eflight or Esky

I have been doing a lot of looking and it seems that there are a lot more Eflight Blade CP Pros for sale than E-sky Honey Bee King II's. Is this because the Blade's are just more popular, or more dissatisfied owners getting rid of them?? It looks like they are priced about the same. One has a belt drive tail and one has an electric motor driven tail. Is one of these better than the other?

Thanks!
08-08-2008 02:45 AM
 
 
ruddernate
Veteran
Location: sulphur,Ok.

belt drive is better. i bought an inexpensive heli, and in a month i had enough in parts i could've bought a trex. (which i did) it was a seperate motor driven tail. it sucked.it seems cheaper but sometimes it's not at all. just my experience but my cheap bird had cheap electronics that made it nearly impossible to fly. you can get a good sim and save up only a couple hundred more dollars while you practice and IMHO stay in the hobby and have less frustration, more fun. on it's befalf my little bird got me hooked and i thank it for that. that's why it has a nice cozy spot on the dusty shelf. i also have to say i have friends that have belt cp's and love them. i also have a lama 4 coming tomorrow which i heard was a good learner for indoor and orientation. just more fun.good luck

fly it like you stole it
08-08-2008 03:04 AM
 
 
R/C Speed Nut
Senior Heliman
Location: Galesburg, Michigan USA

I have both the Blade CP Pro and a HBK2.

The HBK2 is a nice idea but the design is very poor, I have had nothing but trouble with it. CG issues, cyclic phasing issues, and tail belt issues, very frustrating.

The Blade CP Pro at least works out of the box, but I have upgraded it with brushless motor, heading lock gyro, direct drive tail, and Spektrum radio, basically a Pro2 with a brushless motor.

For what I have into either one I could have another T-Rex 450.


Mike

Funky Chicken?!!..........I thought this was how you do a piro flip!!
08-09-2008 05:42 AM
 
 
baoheli
New Heliman
Location: Ardeche France

A Copterx SE V2 is a good compromise in regards to quality price and being a 450 size it handles very well, it is however a clone of the align trex but this has its advantages as all align parts fit and are easy to get hold of in (allmost) any lhs.
Quality wise it is incredible and is becoming quite popular. I did try to start with an HBK2 but it is very difficult to fly although i do believe it to be a very good heli after a few modifications and i will fly it once my skills improve as it seems like a great throw around heli for pilots with exp. To explain i got the king2 and put quite a few $$$ into it ,got a little fed up crashing and nearly gave up. Someone sugested i get a 450 size so i was looking all over and stumbled upon the Copterx, You dont get motor or esc so thats going to put the bill up a little more so all in all 250 $ all in then of course you want lipo's, gyro etc
08-11-2008 06:28 PM
 
 
DVS1
Heliman
Location: Gainesville, Fl, USA

Get the e-sky e-smart kit. It's a 30-50 size electric and the kit with brushless motor only cost $199 at helidirect. I have been flying one for about a year now and it is a great flyer. I also fly 3D with it. The stock motor is equivalent to a z-power z-30 which gives me about 10 min of sport flying and 7-8 min of 3D. Parts cost are inexpensive and BP hobbies and helidirect have full parts support.
08-13-2008 07:08 AM
 
 
ch-47c
Senior Heliman
Location: san jose, ca

Don't buy a Blade CP. The electric tail motor is more trouble than it is worth. Go belt or shaft drive. The Cypher 3D is a very good buy. HeliProz South have them for $160 right now. Parts are very cheap and are usually in pairs. Check it out for yourself. No shipping.
08-21-2008 06:53 AM
 
 
jrett
Senior Heliman
Location: san jose, ca.

You definately get what you pay for. I would personally stay away from the HBK2, as I have one and it is just a money pit. I would recommend getting something that you assemble yourself as a kit or something.
08-22-2008 10:23 AM
 
 
TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

I guess I will chime in here on the King2. I have owned one for about 8 months now and have about 230 batteries run through it, so I do know a little about the little guy

First off ...
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You'll find the tiny electric almost impossible to fly if you are used to flying a large gasser. Small helis are upset by any small control input or gust of wind and they are endlessly fussy to setup and also brittle. On top of that the ground clearance for a micro heli is so minimal it leaves almost no margin for error.

Won't that just make you a better pilot? I know that anyone that can fly a King2 well can fly pretty much anything bigger with style

The definite goods
- Small so you can fly it anywhere.
- Light so crahses are extremely cheap, there just isn't that much energy involved.
- Easy to setup. Minus some tracking issues with the plastic head, these things are a breeze to setup. The only things that are adjustable are the swash-mixer links and the servo-swash links.
- With a 2100 battery (try to keep is as light as possible) the CG is perfect, the power is good and the runtime is great at 10-12min.
- There is a huge aftermarket following.
- You can buy a bare bones kit for $65.
- Futaba s3114 servos work awesome. They are cheap, fast and accurate.

The bads ...
- It is all plastic and although it does fly decent as a stock airframe, it can be a bit "loose", especially as things wear in. The cnc stuff tightens everything up nicely but look to spend $50 for a full cnc head eventually.
- The stock (RTF) motor, esc and rate gyro function but never well. The HBK3 is coming out in a few weeks and will sport a full brushless setup and HH gyro.
- The heli is light and small, and that makes it fast, touchy and hard to see. Wind is also an issue although it gets better with skill. This is much worse on a BladeCP.
- The stock (RTF) servos work fine but are fragile and loose their centering ability as they wear.

I personally like the King2 for what it is but I prefer to fly my Rex. It definitely was a cheap way to learn to fly though. Yes I spent a lot upgrading it when I first got it but the most expensive crash I had was $29 (most are $12-$20) and that was a nose dive into the ground during a fff failure to pull up. It broke the frame in several places and snapped the servo tab off. But the way it came apart save everythign else. Took me less than 2 hours to totally rebuild it and I had it in the air that night.

So my final thoughts are these. If you are really looking for a small, fly anywhere heli that is cheap and works decently well ... buy a King2 but be ready to toss another $150 at it. If you want a rip roaring little 300 for hard 3D in your front yard, build a King2 from scratch (start with the Xtreme frame and toss on a 430L). If you want a Rex450SE, buy a Rex450SE cause this ain't even in the same ball park.

Edit: Here is a video of a newbie plank friend trying to fly my King2 for the first time. Previous experience was 30min on G4 with my assistance. He flew the first 2100 pack for 15min and just started to be able to get it off the floor (used 86% of the pack). I had him run the second for 12min and by the end he was holding it 6" up with decent control.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncAVHxI0Vdw

- Chris

Variety+spice+life+supporting_paper_towel_industry=
King2+Rex450+Protos+Concept30
08-22-2008 04:53 PM
 
 
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