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Avant Aurora - EFX - FX > Making the switch to an Aurora, but still keeping the 700N...
 
 
culverdan
Senior Heliman
Location: American Canyon,CA

Wow

Look how big the canopy is on the Aurora thats like the guy that held up the stratus against the 700 but i think the stratus was a bit bigger. And the Aurora has a pointy nose as well. Who wouldve guessed that its all almost in the canopy WOW.

Well I think I can fly it..............UH OH OOPS heres your heli.
07-30-2008 04:10 AM
 
 
louk05
Key Veteran
Location: Flying in BelAir Maryland

gscott

Gscott knows what post iam talking about. its the one where they guy and his friend are building a 700 and a avant. you can clearly see its all in the canopy. and if i was not on my phone right now i would post the link. he has seen it and dose not want to admit it. he knows he is wrong. it has to be a 90 to have 710 blades and a 90 motor in it. its taller and longer than the 600 but it dose not have a big bulky canopy as the other 90's out there. big deal. its a 90 and light as hell. i have heavy electronics and mine still is very light. it comes in at 9.7 lbs. one light 90 . i could even make it lighter if i want. that was not with a full tank..So its a 90 and screams. and talk about tracking. i can let it go and it just floats there. And it autos awsome. and as for the head again gscott you have not seen it if you think its a 600 head. its not even close. just because it says align on it dose not mean its the same. take a good look at it and see it fly then lts have your input. ive seen the avant fly and its just like watching the 700 fly. they both fly great.

Fly Hard,Crash Hard,Upgrade, Align,AMA#906056
07-30-2008 04:53 AM
 
 
Funky Trex
Key Veteran
Location: Westerville, OH - USA

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i have heavy electronics and mine still is very light. it comes in at 9.7 lbs. one light 90 . i could even make it lighter if i want. that was with a full tank

9.7 lbs w/ a full tank?? Now that is a really light 90!! That would put you under 9 lbs dry? I would have to see that for myself


What is your setup with that weight?
07-30-2008 06:44 AM
 
 
ghettotige
Heliman
Location: Weymouth, dorset UK

Hey wait a minuite where did those photos come from? Thats the shots a guy at our field was taking of my 700 and avant along with his 500, and a mates 600 LOL.
Just so you know Doods comparason is a little off as the radix are 710 where as my V's are 690 tst.

Mike Freeman,
Avant Aurora,
Align Trex 700,600,500,450
All the gear and no idea!!!!
07-30-2008 11:07 AM
 
 
GScott
Key Veteran
Location: Lewis Center, OH

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its a 90 and light as hell. i have heavy electronics and mine still is very light. it comes in at 9.7 lbs. one light 90 . i could even make it lighter if i want. that was with a full tank..

Sorry I'm calling BS on that one. You must have the only one with some special alloy since everyone elses is coming in at around 9.8 dry which is about the same as the Aurora. I'm guessing it's just another case of you making up info. If not then lets see a pic of your 700 with a full tank on a postal scale weighing 9.7 pounds. With the canopy on top of the blades to make sure you didn't remove the battery or something.
07-30-2008 02:27 PM
 
 
CoronaL
Heliman
Location: Winnebago IL

my dad can beat up your dad!!!!!!!!!
07-30-2008 02:40 PM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

yeah I'm telling mummy on you!!!
07-30-2008 03:00 PM
 
 
Doug L
Veteran
Location: Minnesota

I've flown both, but still couldn't say which one I like more. The materials in the Aurora are superior. The quality control on the 700 was perfect. The 700 was super easy to assemble, has a painted canopy, and is $200 cheaper with paddles and tail blades but once built they're pretty similar in ease of repair. Both engines and clutches are fairly easy to pull. The fuel tank on the 700 is a PITA, but the links are perfect (no sizing) All the parts are available for the Aurora. Do NOT crash your 700 yet unless you want to wait for Align to distribute parts or track down another kit to repair it. Augusto has been very good at personally addressing the issues I've had with the kit and getting replacement parts out immediately. They're nearly identical in weight. As mentioned in the other thread, the distance from mainshaft to tail shaft is approx 3/8- 1/2" shorter on the 700. The canopy isn't as long, but a lot fatter. Both fly and feel "light".

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07-30-2008 03:30 PM
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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

good on you doug L. You are intelligent and sensible. Makes a refreshing change. I appreciate your comments.

cheers.
07-30-2008 03:53 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
rrProfessor
Location: cranston ri.

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i think synergy is better than both of them.

i agree neither fly better then the synergy.......

Trex700e Ray N e- kit & "Fueled By Hate" Head
Next-D Rave Flybarless
Outrage Battery
07-30-2008 04:01 PM
 
 
RBOSCO
Senior Heliman
Location: MOBILE, Al . US

My 2 cents!

Well, trying to compare the Aurora to the ANY ALIGN product is like comparing a KIA to a BMW. The Align junk will never hold a candle! Its IN THE AIR that counts. Sure the trex is cheaper to crash. (Big deal)..no one said this is a cheap hobby...lol
In the air, many pilots describe the 700 as a (BIG 600)...It takes flight skills to know the difference in some cases! The interactions, crappy tracking, and offcenter piros produced by 600n should say it all, Since the 700 is more like a 60-70 size heli, it should'nt be considered a 90 class machine, The STRETCHED 600, needed design changes it didnt get. Thus the poor flight characteristics of the 600 have carried over to the 700! Well, I might suffer some ridicule for this post but AH-WELL...lol. For now my 600n remains the "practice beater bird" I cant wait till Avant or Synergy builds a 50 so I can be done with the Align junk forever!

Bling don't make it Sing!
07-30-2008 04:49 PM
 
 
raptorheli2
Elite Veteran
Location: rip off britain and no changing it

i don't have an aurora and never want one but i do have a trex 700 and there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way it is 9.7lbs with fuel. mines is 9.8lbs with no fuel and i bought a set of digital scales to prove this.

setup is

spartan gyro
8717 servos
4200mah revo lipo
hitec 65mg thro servo
perfect regulator

as for the quality difference, if align had 3 years and not 6 months then maybe the quality would be the same, but then so would the price so i'm happy with the 700 as a basher and keep my synergys aswell.

cheers


www.waterfoothelis.com
07-30-2008 05:20 PM
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RBOSCO
Senior Heliman
Location: MOBILE, Al . US

Good point Raptorheli2

Glad you brought up the weight issue!! There are those who think because the machine is "light" , it will fly better. There again is drastic misconception! (of course if the 700 was a true 90 platform (size) it would weigh more) Take the Synergy for instance. After flying my Aurora, back to back with my N9, the first thing I noticed was how much better the Synergy tracked in hurricanes and other "large" moves.... the added speed and inertia, generated by the weight, is a MAJOR plus point. With the Aurora, I had to drive the heli though the moves to "keep it going" so to speak. Also the Aurora is a little "floaty" and slow, but that makes it a fun and predictable machine! Overall I found the synergy to fly better. Dont get me wrong I love the Aurora, I will keep them both! Perhaps Align will build an "800" next, for the YS 91 that is!...lol. Again I'm not trying to hurt anyones feelings, But its IN THE AIR that counts!

Bling don't make it Sing!
07-30-2008 06:04 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
rrProfessor
Location: cranston ri.

the synergy rules the rest drools...lol

there will be a n5 coming soon, hopefully real soon

Trex700e Ray N e- kit & "Fueled By Hate" Head
Next-D Rave Flybarless
Outrage Battery
07-30-2008 06:08 PM
 
 
inkspot1967
rrProfessor
Location: cranston ri.

i have to agree lighter is not better, the lighter you are the less stable it will be. lighter is better for the low and tight moves but open it up wide and she will be all over the place

Trex700e Ray N e- kit & "Fueled By Hate" Head
Next-D Rave Flybarless
Outrage Battery
07-30-2008 06:11 PM
 
 
louk05
Key Veteran
Location: Flying in BelAir Maryland

9.7

dry. its 9.78 dry I don't know what it is with a full tank. I will have to weigh. Sorry typo. I was using my cell phone

Fly Hard,Crash Hard,Upgrade, Align,AMA#906056
07-30-2008 06:46 PM
 
 
louk05
Key Veteran
Location: Flying in BelAir Maryland

and size

no its not a 60 70 size. the raptor 60 is 2 in shorter that the 700. look at length if you guys what to compare this crap you come up with. the 700 is not even a in shorter than the avant and it comes in at the canopy. the tail is the same length as the 700 I don't know where yu guys come up with this crap. And comparing a 700 to a avant is like comparing a kia to a bmw. Thats total crap. I am going to say you have never flown one either. It flies just as good if not better than the avant any day. It also has NO problems with it at all. And being a upscale 600 yes it may be but its a 90 and it flies way better than a 600 and It flies just as good as a N9. the weight of a N9 makes it track a bit better but thats it. the avant and 700 both feel light in the air and are very responsive. So that kind of remark must be from a 1gal pro.

Fly Hard,Crash Hard,Upgrade, Align,AMA#906056
07-30-2008 06:58 PM
 
 
Funky Trex
Key Veteran
Location: Westerville, OH - USA

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dry. its 9.78 dry I don't know what it is with a full tank. I will have to weigh. Sorry typo. I was using my cell phone

Yes, that seems like an easy mistake to make

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So that kind of remark must be from a 1gal pro

I'm sorry, but that comment is too funny coming from you
07-30-2008 07:13 PM
 
 
tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

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And comparing a 700 to a avant is like comparing a kia to a bmw. Thats total crap.

True. Ferrari to a Yugo would be closer . . .

Align - just say "NO!" . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .
07-30-2008 07:34 PM
 
 
j5coat
Veteran
Location: Phoenix

LOL if you guys spent half as much time flying as you doing bitching about other brands you would all be pro. Lighter, heavier it all depends on how you like to fly, everything is a trade off. Everyone needs to put down their palm palms STFU and fly! thank you....

Trex 700, Trex 600n
07-30-2008 11:15 PM
 
 
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