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Align T-REX 600N 700N > T-REX 700N How about some flight reports?
 
 
J.D. Wilson
Elite Veteran
Location: Nashville, TN

Ok, we've seen the pictures sitting on your benches, we want flight reports. Please list the pros, the cons and any specific details you think may be relevant. Any surprises? Thanks.

Let your flying do the talking - don't talk about your flying
07-19-2008 04:08 AM
 
 
myaces
Senior Heliman
Location: North Bend, Wa

I'm just at the tail end of breaking it in but it tracks really well. The YS91SR and Hatori pipe pulls like a train. Cyclic response is very good and should be even better when I up the head speed. Pretty happy so far with just about 20 flights on it.

I've run into two issues. I don't know if it's a vibration problem but the fuel in the tank is always splashing around like crazy, it might also be due to the crankcase pressure as it seems to be worse on the side that the nipple is on. I am running the OS bubbleless clunk and I have had two times where the engine almost quit because of this problem, maybe I need to go to a fuel magnet.

The bottom ring on my swashplate fell off in flight, this is only the small retaining ring, I popped it back in and it hasn't fallen out again.

~Team Collective Mayhem
07-19-2008 05:35 AM
 
 
majestic12
Senior Heliman
Location: truckee, ca

15 flights on mine so far and hopefully another gallons' worth tomorrow morning plus I'll mount the gopro for some in flight video!

I had it on the bench today for a good looking over and everything is still as good as new. Nothing loose, no slope developing, all the ball links are still a wee bit on the tight side( I didn't size them because my Maverick tool was just a bit on the small side and they weren't overlly tight). I will say that the gear train has really worked in and is beyond silky smooth. The only way I can describe the flight is it floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee. I fly at 6000ft so every little bit counts and I finally have that POP that I've been craving. The only thing I don't like so far are the tiny tiny canopy R clips because I've got big fingers quick fix though as I had a bunch of spare frame spacers from my Fury that worked perfect as front canopy mounts with MA canopy screws. Still have the two clips on the rear. Maybe I can make it down to the city soon and check out the rc truck shop..maybe they have some clip that would be more conducive to my big fingers as I really like the ideo of the clips vs screws.

Oh...when is someone going to make a swash leveler for the 700? or is there one out there that fits? Would really like to do it right vs just sighting the swash perpendicular to the shaft with a homemade 90degree template.

FURY for sale
TREX 600N PRO OS 50 HYPER-Align pipe
TREX 700N PRO OS 91 MP5
HF:STMPNGRND
07-19-2008 06:00 AM
 
 
louk05
Veteran
Location: Flying in BelAir Maryland

will post my thoughts soon. I am getting ready to build mine. every one I have talked to says its

the best 90 they have flow. Must be great

Fly Hard,Crash Hard,Upgrade, Align,AMA#906056
07-19-2008 06:08 AM
 
 
J.D. Wilson
Elite Veteran
Location: Nashville, TN

Thanks for the feedback guys. Please keep the reports coming.

Let your flying do the talking - don't talk about your flying
07-19-2008 06:11 AM
 
 
mjy1288
Heliman
Location: Mt Airy, MD USA

I've got about 15 flights on mine, It was an easy build, no hangups whatsoever, It is not as light as advertised... Mine has a 611 Gyro, Switch Glo, Rev Max, OS 91Sz Hyper pumped W/Viper head, Hatori SB18 Pipe, and a 6 Volt Duralite setup with a 4000Mah RX pack, and Align 690D Blades and it weighs in at 10 Lbs 2 OZ's with no fuel, but it flies very well and with the Viper head (added today) it has plenty of power. The roll rate is a tad slow with the stock paddles. But I think some Stubz might fix that

So far I give it 2 thumbs up, lets see how it holds up after 200 plus flights

"Big" Mike
07-19-2008 06:22 AM
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JAGNZ
Elite Veteran
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Yeah but you have HEAVY electronics on board. Many will run much lighter gear than you and no reg at all...plus a non-pumped engine.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
07-19-2008 08:31 AM
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Ray Nemovi
Veteran
Location: SAN DIEGO CA

mine is 9.8 and it had a little fuel in the tank at the time too. but I have light electronics

Ray N.
07-19-2008 10:57 AM
 
 
george0079
Elite Veteran
Location: Terra Firma

I put a gallon and a half through mine, today. It's smooth, and feels very light. I think 690's are the way to go for this heli

The older I get, the shorter my attention....... Oh look. A shiny penny..

Steve
07-20-2008 05:06 AM
 
 
Joe90
Senior Heliman
Location: Quebec, Canada

Dont worry about weight, this is very light, a vibe is 11 pounds and a raptor is 11 pound
07-20-2008 07:25 PM
 
 
AnnihilaT
Key Veteran
Location: The Netherlands Force: The Dark Side

Im also curious to hear some flight reports.... seems pretty quiet so far on that end... Are there just not enough of them out there built and flying yet or is there something else going on?

Its been mentioned in the XFC thread that none of the 700's looked to be very lively in the air at XFC... what do you all think about that?





A day without sunshine is like, well, night.
07-20-2008 10:45 PM
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jpla010
Senior Heliman
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

I think XFC is more suited to heavy machines as the manouvers are all supposed to be very slow and controlled. 700N was designed to be thrown around

Jonathon
07-21-2008 12:35 AM
 
 
majestic12
Senior Heliman
Location: truckee, ca

just flat out loving it


FURY for sale
TREX 600N PRO OS 50 HYPER-Align pipe
TREX 700N PRO OS 91 MP5
HF:STMPNGRND
07-21-2008 03:35 AM
 
 
raptorheli2
Elite Veteran
Location: rip off britain and no changing it

i've been a long time double synergy owner and recently added the 700 to the fleet. it does build easily and mines was light. it is 9.9lbs dry on a brand new set of digital kitchen scales i bought solely to weigh this thing.

V blade V2 690 (read on)
spartan 760/8900g
carbsmart/hitec 65mg
revloc 20
hitec 65mg on throttle
8717 ccpm
os91 shz hyper pumped
hatori sb17
perfect regulator twin output
4200mah revo lipo

the heli was complete amazing on pitch from day one. you can tell it is light in the air and certainly a lot more nimble than my synergys but doesn't track aswell (to be expected imo). this is my first set of V blades and it will be my last because of the amount of power they sap doing anything with cyclic. i swapped them out for a set of 703 maniacs yesterday and what a difference in power. the V's do have better pop but they ruin the rest of the flight for me.

i changed the stock paddles to MA whites and surprisingly it's not pitchy like i was expecting, i'm not a fan of the stock paddles, very thick and blunt leading edge.

cheers


www.waterfoothelis.com
07-21-2008 07:51 AM
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AnnihilaT
Key Veteran
Location: The Netherlands Force: The Dark Side

my build should also be finished tomorrow and hopefully will get a flight in as well. Im also an ex synergy owner as well as raptors , vmax, and a gohbee (and many smaller than 90 size ships) so ill have something to compare it to.

I also think the paddles look very thick and heavy and dont plan to stick with them but will try them first since you cant knock them until you have tried them. I expect they will not have the response im looking for tho.

Also i noticed my paddles are completely black instead of white like on the box. Are all the kits shipping like this or just EU (or maybe 1st run / 2nd run) kits ?





A day without sunshine is like, well, night.
07-23-2008 12:23 AM
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RAPPYFAN
Heliman
Location: NEW YORK

I have flown a couple of 700's recently with different setups and while it flys good it's no Aurora. It wants to slow down in foward flight and it doesn't have near the collective authority as the Avant or Aurora. While the parts are inexpensive i wouldn't buy one just because of that because flight performance is more important to me.
It doesn't fly anything close to it's little brother the 600 which is much more nimble.
07-23-2008 01:41 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
Elite Veteran
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

That speed and Cyclic authority is all in the setup IMO. I can almost guarantee that the 700 has as much if not more Cyclic Pitch available vs. the Aurora and any other 90 out there. Cyclic pitch is where the max speed comes from all other things being equal. Now, I also think the stock paddles are way too slow and I know that the demo model in NZ which now has Stubz on it is WAY faster on Cyclics than it used to be.

This is not rocket science, it is a function of the pitch available and what is done with that pitch via flybar ratios, paddle design/weight etc.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
07-23-2008 01:46 AM
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J.D. Wilson
Elite Veteran
Location: Nashville, TN

Yes Jagnz, and while I'm no Aurora cheerleader I do agree that the Avants and higher end helis have a much different feel and response. You can do anything you want to a stock Raptor 90 and it's just not going to fly like my Avant or a Synergy. Different head designs = different flight characteristics, even if the geometry and setup may be similar. I am looking forward to more flight reports. This has been very informative to many of us.

Let your flying do the talking - don't talk about your flying
07-23-2008 01:54 AM
 
 
JAGNZ
Elite Veteran
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Yes, I agree there too, head geometry plays a role in how the heli behaves in the air. My Fury Extreme flies differently to my old 90SE but that seems primarily due to the eCCPM vs. mCCPM setup.

However, as noted previously, Align ships typically perform light in the air and are very responsive. I don't think that has changed with the 700 but setup seems more critical to get the same feel vs. the 600N which is one responsive little bastard no matter what you do to her.

I like what Align has done for the market and I wouldn't buy an Aurora simply because I do not trust the company behind it and the price is scary too.

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
07-23-2008 02:02 AM
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J.D. Wilson
Elite Veteran
Location: Nashville, TN

I agree 100% with that last statement but I'm banned from saying it so I'm glad you did. The 700 looks like a lot of fun and I'm thrilled it's easy to build (just what I need, I'd rather fly than build and tinker). I just think that it has to be accepted for what it is. I am very disappointed that they didn't up the quality in certain areas, I think a 90 needs that extra security. I'm sure I'll get on in a few months after the kinks are worked out and we have more feedback.

Let your flying do the talking - don't talk about your flying
07-23-2008 02:05 AM
 
 
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