Should I use blue loctite installing the pinion gear to the clutch bell?? How do you do it there?
Thanks Cassat
07-18-2008 05:55 AM
artimus Veteran Location: Puyallup WA
You can use loctite but it is not necessary to use because the torque of the engine will keep the pinion gear tight....I don't use it and never had an issue in over 300 flights with 3 different Raptors 30, 50 and a 90 all the same design.
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07-18-2008 06:36 AM
alvinrc Veteran Location: Mobile, AL, USA
Me neither, no locktite and pinion/bell interface has been snug for over two years on my Titan.
the torque of the engine will keep the pinion gear tight
Till your engine fires backwards, doesn't hurt to put a couple of drops on just for piece of mind.
Stephen
I only open my mouth to change feet.....
07-18-2008 10:09 AM
Swoop Key Veteran Location: Newark, DE USA
I agree with Monk, really what do you have to lose by putting a small dab of blue on. I admit its a challenge to get the pinion back out, but a little heat goes a long way.
07-18-2008 02:22 PM
artimus Veteran Location: Puyallup WA
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Till your engine fires backwards, doesn't hurt to put a couple of drops on just for piece of mind.
This would only be a problem if you tried to fly it with the engine running backwards .You will know it as soon as it fires that is running backwards and if you hit the throttle then it may spin up with enough tourque to break loose the clutch bell at that point blue loctite wont help its only for vibration Red is what you will need in that case. .....as soon as you get it running the right way it will there is no problem....never been an issue even with backwards starts once in a while.
AMA #890376..... Flying Helis is like sex ...you dont have to be good at it to enjoy it....
07-18-2008 04:17 PM
BEAR Senior Heliman Location: Peterborough
I have always put plenty on just in case lets face it here in the U.K. we dont wont to waist time striping helis down at the feild WHEN the weather is good
07-18-2008 06:52 PM
PietervA Veteran Location: New Zealand
The pinion's sometimes hard enough to remove without Loctite, so I wouldn't bother.
07-19-2008 12:05 AM
trunkmunki Senior Heliman Location: Bangor
Don't think you could even get it to spin up backwards, and really no torque would be transmitted anywhere if it fired backwards (except the starter shaft, I guess) due to the one-way bearing on the MS.
07-19-2008 12:12 AM
Drunk Monk rrProfessor Location: Preston, UK
The main gear spins but not the blades because of the one way and when it does fire up backwards a beginner probably won't know what the problem is and be revving it up trying to figure it out. You don't need to use locktite but it's metal on metal so what the hell
Stephen
I only open my mouth to change feet.....
07-19-2008 11:52 AM
artimus Veteran Location: Puyallup WA
Remember it always better to have it and not need it the to need it and not have it....use it it , wont hurt anything and it cheap insurance.
AMA #890376..... Flying Helis is like sex ...you dont have to be good at it to enjoy it....
07-19-2008 04:30 PM
cassat Veteran Location: Alberta,Canada
Oh well, blue is on already. So thanks for the response. Could use a close up photo of that elevator grey lever with the two links going to it though........
07-19-2008 11:24 PM
Swoop Key Veteran Location: Newark, DE USA
Be happy to post a pic but not sure exactly what your looking for. The elevator lever is grey but only has 1 link going to it, or are you referring to the 2 black links going up to the swash front and back?
07-20-2008 04:03 AM
cassat Veteran Location: Alberta,Canada
Swoop,
Just the elevator control linkage please. I think it is only one link as you say....a bit dark to see in the manual.
07-20-2008 04:39 AM
Swoop Key Veteran Location: Newark, DE USA
I just realized that your asking about a 30. My Titan has push/pull which is a slightly different config. For what its worth, heres a pic of the Titan's
07-21-2008 03:57 AM
cassat Veteran Location: Alberta,Canada
Swoop, thanks. That helps a bit . I lost the little grey plastic lever with splined end. Always something, so am at a dead end for a bit here.
Cassat
07-21-2008 11:34 PM
Swoop Key Veteran Location: Newark, DE USA
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I lost the little grey palstic lever
Hope this didn't happen in flight
Bummer, looks like you will have to buy the whole elevator control assembly (PV0013)
07-22-2008 01:05 AM
artimus Veteran Location: Puyallup WA
is this the part you need? If so PM me and I will send it to you .
AMA #890376..... Flying Helis is like sex ...you dont have to be good at it to enjoy it....
07-22-2008 01:38 AM
cassat Veteran Location: Alberta,Canada
Spline, Wine n DineNo Swoop,
Haven't flown it yet. New scratch build with a scale Augusta sitting here waiting for it. Winter is coming!!! right after the tornados ha
Yes Artimus..... sent you a pm
Cassat
07-22-2008 02:11 AM
Swoop Key Veteran Location: Newark, DE USA
Very cool Artimus, people like you keep this hobby alive.
