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hollycopter
Senior Heliman
Location: england uk

anyone know any good websites for diy solar power, info on installing and materials needed etc
07-16-2008 10:32 PM
 
 
Pistol_Pete
Elite Veteran
Location: Tampa Bay non-Buccaneer

www.realgoods.com

<><>...the lunatic is in my head...<><>
07-16-2008 10:34 PM
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kurtk
Heliman
Location: North Carolina

www.backwoodssolar.com
07-17-2008 12:07 PM
 
 
scatbass
Heliman
Location: Hiram, GA

Gonna need some $$$ as well. I recently priced out doing my house - and no, I do not live like Al Gore - and it priced at between $50000 and $100000 in order to be completely self sufficient.

Of course, that also includes electric hot water as well as AC. A lifestyle change could make it cheaper, but with a family it is unrealistic.

Good luck, keep us posted...



Mike
07-17-2008 01:10 PM
 
 
Topher
Veteran
Location: Grosse Ile, Michigan

Look into a hybrid system that might include a wind turbine and geothermal for heating and cooling.

Get a life? How the hell do you fly a life?
07-17-2008 01:48 PM
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rmschmidt
Senior Heliman
Location: Tooele, Utah

Here is a tv show that has allot of solar links on his web site.

http://www.livingwithed.net/
07-17-2008 07:29 PM
 
 
iflybyu77
Veteran
Location: Fort Wayne, IN

I've heard that nano-tech will soon change the solar power world soon.. I'm sure there are quite a few people out there working hard to make the relatively outdated technology that makes up current solar panels more efficient and cost effective.

What I find funny is that some states give you tax credits to pay for solar (paid by other tax payers) for a technology that for most homes would only provide 20% of a homes needs. I'm all for finding ways to use "free" energy, but taking it out of someone elses pockets..

I'd wait and see what happens in the next few years in solar tech. 50-100k is WAY too expensive. I'll burn me some coal first.
07-18-2008 05:00 AM
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Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=hydrogen-house

Vegetable rights and Peace
07-18-2008 10:30 AM
 
 
scatbass
Heliman
Location: Hiram, GA

From that ^^^ article:

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Although the device cost $500,000 to construct, and it is unlikely it will ever pay off financially (even with today's skyrocketing oil and gas prices), the civil engineer says it is priceless in terms of what it does buy: freedom from ever paying another heating or electric bill, not to mention keeping a lid on pollution, because water is its only by-product.

That there is the issue. Most people have a financial interest in doing this, and while it's interesting to see some do it just for the sake of it, it make no (financial) sense to spend $500,000 as a 1 time energy payment. You'de be better off investing that money and paying your bills like everyone else.

I understand this guy was in it to do it, but still...that really underscores the major issue at the moment, that being cost effectiveness. Most of the mass marketed plans only subsidize your energy usage. My attitude is...if I'm going to do it at all, I'm in it to REPLACE my current system...which is big big bucks to get off the grid completely, even with lifestyle changes.



Mike
07-18-2008 12:15 PM
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

These are pioneering times as people begin to wake up to the problems we are beginning to face. Some brave souls are able to put their time and money into seeking out solutions which, in the fullness of time, as the technologies are understood and developed, will filter down to the rest of us.
Self sufficiency and replenishable resources are the way of the future. I heard an interestring report on the radio yesterday where a town in the north UK was pretty much self sufficient for all it's food needs. The towns population and local farmers had got together to make this work; gardens used as vegetable plots etc etc. They reckoned they would be completely self sufficient in the next 5 years. A good model for the rest of us.
With this 'community' viewpoint, it may well be what is required to solve our self sufficiency regarding energy for homes (and transport). Rather than an individual having to foot the bill to equip their home to be self sufficient, perhaps it would be more bountifull if it was done for a whole town of a few thousand people. This also makes sence when considering systems like geothermic heating installations.

Vegetable rights and Peace
07-18-2008 01:04 PM
 
 
scatbass
Heliman
Location: Hiram, GA

Yug - true points. It's interesting though to see a coming of full circle, so to speak.

Early on in history, man and local community was more or less self sufficient. With the advent of transportation and industrialization came trade, and thus people move into specific roles. Eventually this globalized to the point we are today...and introduces new politics that have people seeking out what we originally started with.

I wonder what the happy balance is?



Mike
07-18-2008 02:05 PM
 
 
Yug
rrProfessor
Location: UK. Herts

Evolution is an ongoing process so we adapt. The balance will therefore allways be changing just as the universe is allways changing.

Vegetable rights and Peace
07-18-2008 02:35 PM
 
 
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