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Synergy R/C Synergy N9 > Got a synergy - looking for some tips and tricks
 
 
ofir
Senior Heliman
Location: tel aviv - israel

My wife bought me a new N9 kit, with almost all accessories (engine, blades, gyro) - I am looking for some assembly tips just before starting the build.
Is there a need for some upgrades? Are there some special tricks in the build process that I need to know of?

Thanks ahead
ofir.

You don't mess with the ofir...
07-01-2008 03:36 PM
 
 
helinewby
Senior Heliman
Location: Mason Ohio

lookie here

take a look in chuckie's gallery and there you will find the building info you need.

ps: If your wife bought you the kit N9 with everything, Does she have a SISTER( just kidding)

stop typing and go burn some more fuel!
07-01-2008 03:45 PM
 
 
ofir
Senior Heliman
Location: tel aviv - israel

Well, I have a great cool wife that comes with me to the field every time and buy's all of my helicopter stuff.

You don't mess with the ofir...
07-01-2008 04:32 PM
 
 
Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

She sounds great. She must be running some old version of GirlFriend v1.0 so don't upgrade. Though your signature should be "Don't mess with ofir's wife..."

For basic upgrades I'd suggest the hub (Hyper or Synergy) and main shaft split collar. You still have to dial the clutch shaft but the hub is very much plug and play. Newer kits should have the new SE tail hub but if not get it. That's it, the stock N9 flys great. Once you get some time on the machine look into upgrading if you like.

Charles

Please stand by for faster service!
07-01-2008 05:29 PM
 
 
ofir
Senior Heliman
Location: tel aviv - israel

is this hub OK?
http://www.kasama.com/index.php?opt...=en&p=195&sub=3
How can I know if I got the SE tail hub in my kit?

What do you mean by dial the clutch shaft?

You don't mess with the ofir...
07-01-2008 07:58 PM
 
 
tec548
Heliman
Location: Houston, TX

The Kasama unit is great! I have been using it for almost a year with no problems at all.

Joel
07-01-2008 08:45 PM
 
 
pariah
Senior Heliman
Location: West Valley City, UT - United States of America

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How can I know if I got the SE tail hub in my kit?

I'll measure them both when I get home, since I have them both. The SE hub is longer.

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What do you mean by dial the clutch shaft?

This refers to dial indicating the clutch shaft. This means you have a measuring device called a "dial indicator" they can cost anywhere from $25 USD to hundreds of USD, which you place against the shaft, then spin the shaft around. The dial indicator will show you how far out of alignment the shaft is.

Synergy's site has a video guide on dial indicating:
http://www.synergyrc.com/en/images/..._indicating.wmv

This more or less shows & explains the process.


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Helicopters & Women: The last thing I want is one whose head has a few loose screws.
07-01-2008 10:56 PM
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pariah
Senior Heliman
Location: West Valley City, UT - United States of America

Without having to measure, there are easy differences between the SE tail hub and the original hub.

The original hub has threads immediately at each end.

The SE hub has smooth metal for the first 2-3mm, then threads.


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Helicopters & Women: The last thing I want is one whose head has a few loose screws.
07-02-2008 05:36 AM
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xxl
Senior Heliman
Location: The planet Earth

Get the hyper sizer for the links makes them sliky smooth
Hyper levers are great but you can wait on those if money is a issue
Hyper collar highy recomened better than stock collar

Enjoy that synergy its great
07-03-2008 03:56 AM
 
 
FS+
Senior Heliman
Location: BKK

Quote 
is this hub OK?
http://www.kasama.com/index.php?opt...=en&p=195&sub=3
How can I know if I got the SE tail hub in my kit?
What do you mean by dial the clutch shaft?

KASAMA is the best for now also Hyper*.* too
main & tail grip upgrade is recommend.

YOU HAVE COOL WIFE .. lucky man u are

Happy helicopter
07-03-2008 10:47 AM
 
 
Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

The metal main blade grips make the heli more sensitive and it takes a bit of tweaking to get the dampening right. I'd recommend staying with the newer beefier stock main blade grips until you decide you want a more sensitive/ responding heli.

Charles

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07-03-2008 06:25 PM
 
 
HiroboFreak
Senior Heliman
Location: Central Coast, NSW, Australia

Yeah I found the same Chuckie.

I just fitted the SE grips & have bad shakes at 1650 (normal mode)
That was with 1 thick, 1 medium each side & standard o-rings.

I have since tried 1 thick, 1 thin (1.4mm) each side. Better, but still shaking at 1650.

I have now gone to 2x medium (1.25mm) each side & it feels good on the bench, but I've yet to fly it.
I'll post my findings.

Also, if you're fitting the SE grips... recheck your pitch & cyclic as I found it changed quite a bit. Cyclics went from 9° to 11° , Collective increased too of course, & it caught me by surprise first flight.

Synergy N9 | T600n Pro
07-04-2008 01:00 AM
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airboss
Elite Veteran
Location: OC ,california

best heli ever ! no question. best upgrades are se or hyper hub and hyperdrive. thats it , this heli flies best right out of the box.get the YSsr and sb19 and tear it up!!!!
dont use Kasama go for all SE upgrades if needed.


OCRM....flyBlackstarr.org.
07-04-2008 04:00 AM
 
 
ofir
Senior Heliman
Location: tel aviv - israel

After the build - I can say it's not so easy - taking the engine out for maintenance will be a mess.

I had some places that were missing tapping - that I had to tap myself!!! - like the engine's center hub right side, and the torque tube connecting part. also had to replace a link rod because it had no tapping.

The ball links are stiff, and I got a tool to expand them a bit.

No I am waiting for the rest of the electronics to come from the US to finish the job and go flying.

It looks like a kick ass machine. can't wait to fly it.

You don't mess with the ofir...
07-05-2008 01:14 PM
 
 
airboss
Elite Veteran
Location: OC ,california

dropping the engine is a simple task . you will see when the time comes.there have been some parts machined without threads in my kits also.

OCRM....flyBlackstarr.org.
07-05-2008 04:17 PM
 
 
pariah
Senior Heliman
Location: West Valley City, UT - United States of America

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dropping the engine is a simple task . you will see when the time comes.

I agree it's simple - I recently had to rebuild my engine due to a major mistake on my part. (A different story...)

I was able to pull the engine, replace the cylinder sleeve, piston, and piston ring, and then put it all back together. The entire process, from start to finish, took me about two and a half hours. I flew the next day.

That's about as invasive as engine repairs get, and I did everything in less than an evening, with an M3 and M4 hex driver, acetone (to clean the bolts), and threadlock.

If you follow the directions for engine removal, it seems you don't have to worry too much about re-aligning everything - in my case, at least, everything went back into place in perfect alignment.


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Helicopters & Women: The last thing I want is one whose head has a few loose screws.
07-06-2008 07:03 AM
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ofir
Senior Heliman
Location: tel aviv - israel

In my raptor 50, it took me less then an hour to replace the Engine's bearings...
I guess it's easy comparing to other 90's machines, I have never owned a 90 before.

You don't mess with the ofir...
07-06-2008 11:59 AM
 
 
Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

HiroboFreak,

Yup 1.25 to 1.3 is what I use with stock O's. The heli flys great in heavy winds and it shows very little but some boom bounce.

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Also, if you're fitting the SE grips... recheck your pitch & cyclic as I found it changed quite a bit. Cyclics went from 9° to 11° , Collective increased too of course, & it caught me by surprise first flight.

If so then it seems the control point on the SE grips is further in toward the main shaft, compared to the standard or Hyper grips. Only a few mm would increase the pitch and cyclic amounts like you indicate. Or did something else change?

Charles

Please stand by for faster service!
07-07-2008 12:02 PM
 
 
HiroboFreak
Senior Heliman
Location: Central Coast, NSW, Australia

Nope Chuckie.

Bolted the SE grips ones straight on. Must be slightly different.

On the dampener/shim topic... I'm at 1.25mm now. Still got a wobble at 1650 but I can put up with it as it's much less than before, & very nice in flight (yes slight boom bounce though).
O-rings are brand new so I suspect wobble may even disappear after some more use.

I think I've found a happy medium.

Synergy N9 | T600n Pro
07-09-2008 02:18 AM
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