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Ron’s HeliProz South . Century Helicopter . MTA Hobbies

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e-Align T-REX 450-500-600 > T-REX 600 Trex 600e and using 2x 2500mah batterys
 
 
centuryman
Veteran
Location: deerriver,mn usa

it all comes down to watts.

The higher the voltage the lowwer the amps but the watts are still the same.so a 5000 mah 6s battery has the same wattage potenial as a 12s 2500mah setup ,providing the batteries are of the same c rateing.

the advantages of high voltage are, higher effenciey, and consiquently more power and longer run times because of the higher effenciey,and a side benifit is the motor and esc will run much cooler witch should equal longer life, and easier to run back to back without allowing cooling time.

as it was explained to me by the neu rep is that a motor will run on what ever voltage you give it providing you stay within your rpm limit,but will be most effeceint at the highest voltage possible withine your rpm and gearing limits.in fact he said at 44.4 volts some motors are in the high 90% range for effenciey witch i have proved to myself several times with my own testing .

for example. every 12s setup i've done useing the standard 90% ef and 3.7 loaded voltage numbers has netted me 200 to 300 more headspeed then the calculations came up with. the same calculations that are within 50rpm on 6s and 8s setups.

I asked the neu rep about this and he has seen the same thing and his conclusion as was mine is that the higher headspeed is a result of higher effenciey.some might say it's due to less voltage drop due to less amperage draw, but since i use a 2500 mah on 12s i don't think this is the case .

as for the second charger. a tp 610 is only 129.99 and a awesome charger.comes with a balancer so a pair of them is still less then the tp 1010 with it's seperate balancer to buy, and you can't do a 12s battery on it anyways.

plus when your flying your 500 trex a second charger sure speeds things up.with 4 batteries and 2 chargers you can do alot of flying.
07-04-2008 05:23 AM
 
 
172AMD
Heliman
Location: Richmond, B.C. Canada

centuryman, what are your average and peak amp draws with this 12s 2500mah trex600 setup?

Dave.
07-09-2008 07:07 PM
 
 
centuryman
Veteran
Location: deerriver,mn usa

i don't have a way of checking that,but with the 3200 30c 12s pack i get 4 minutes meduim to hard flying/3d.in other 12s setups i have tryed my trex 500 2500 25c 6s packs and found that i lost power and about a minute run time over the 3200 30 c packs witch leads me to beleive the setup can pull more then 125 amp peak that the 2500 25c packs can deliver.and it was a big difference in power so i would say the peak is atleast 150 amps,as the 3200 30 c packs can deliver 192 amps peak.

with the flight times and mah numbers the average amp draw is 38 to 40 amps.now take in mind this is hard flying with lots of pitch and headspeed and a scorpion motor capible of 4200 watts continous witch is just under a 100 amps and 5.5 hp. and a peak hp of 9 to 10 hp.

with my other 12s setups i used century 650a motor's and got 5 minute run times.and i'm sure ther's smaller motor's that will do even better.
07-09-2008 09:04 PM
 
 
Sillyness
Senior Heliman
Location: Little Rock AR

Holy crap, I only draw 32-33 Amp continuous on 8S!!!!! Icludes tic-tocs, etc...

What are you doing with that thing?
07-10-2008 12:18 AM
 
 
centuryman
Veteran
Location: deerriver,mn usa

I like to fly hard.

but the motor and the high headspeed and 14/14 pitch is a lot of it.

On my 8s swift with a 1907 1y i get 4 minutes on a 3700 pack,but less headspeed,less pitch and the motor is half the power at best.

funny thing is that the 8s trex was just fine, even awesome till i put together the 12s 4200watt monster.now the 8s trex feels almost like flying a nitro, well not that bad but you get the point.
the power that you can get in one of these things is very addicting and then there's the viscous cycle of getting used to it then wanting more and on it goes.but i think i may have gone as far as i can go with what's available.

On the bright side it's alot of fun and i think my flying is getting better.It has to just to keep ahead of these monster's
07-10-2008 02:27 AM
 
 
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