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astong35
New Heliman
Location: marengo, IL U.S

Hi, I'm new to RC helicopters and am looking for one. I was looking at helis before but decided I didn't want to spend too much so I backed off a bit.

Now I lost all the progress I had made so I'm off to a clean start. The only helis I have played with are the micros, they are fun but I really want 3d.

I am looking for a heli, preferably less than 500 (the cheaper the better)
I really want 3d, I want complete control- i know they break easily..
I don't really care about size, but I would like to fly outside.

I know 3d choppers aren't for beginners but I think I will be fine. Please tell me what heli you think is best for me even if it more than 500$.

Please post as much information as you can or if you want to know your time won't be wasted please E-Mail me at Eddieisloved@msn.com.

Thank you.
06-11-2008 08:18 AM
 
 
kc8qpu
Senior Heliman
Location: Hudsonville,MI, USA

Well I won't tell you that you won't find much for under $500. You will. But do you want to go electric, or nitro? That will be a big factor. Another thing you will find is if you have no experience at all your $500 investement will quickly add up to a LOT more. I would suggest if you don't have one to buy a sim first. Save you a lot more money in the long run and then save save save and keep looking for a good deal. Also get in touch with a local club that has choppers and see what they are flying. You will want to stay with the same brand as this will make helping setup your heli a lot easier and less stressful for everyone. Just my 2cents.

Bring back the rotary phone so we don't have to press "1" to proceed to ENGLIGH.
06-11-2008 10:11 AM
 
 
Blade_Master1
Veteran
Location: Canada

your looking at spending at least a 1000$ to start from new

forget about the micro's start with the largest you can afford
if you want nitro get a 50 size to start
if you want electric get a 500~600 size

read through the forums before deciding which heli you want
some need alot of upgrades or they have other issues that need to addressed before flying

another thing to look at is parts availability and cost of replacement parts.

I would also find a local flying club first or attend a funfly
meet some people who can help with final set-up










JM2C's :)
06-11-2008 11:53 AM
 
 
FBoss
Veteran
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

KC has given some good advise. A sim is the best purchase you can make. Helis are alot like Boats, the inital purchase is only a portion of the cost required to keep it floating/flying. Your question does need some more detail to give you good advise. Get to the local field and hang out, ask questions, see what they are flying. You kinda need to answer the Nitro/Electric question first and move on from there. Alot has to do with your budget as well. Give us some more info and we can give more detailed advise. Be advised, there are many good options and the final purchase decision can be, Is a matter of your own personal preferance. People like to push what they bought, its natural, but whats right for me may not be right for you.

The good ole times are now ,000132
06-11-2008 11:55 AM
 
 
Blade_Master1
Veteran
Location: Canada

You can look on ebay for deals like this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/Century-Hawk-Pr...id=p3286.c0.m14

this would be a great starter heli

Like FBOSS said a sim is the best investment before even trying to fly








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JM2C's :)
06-11-2008 12:04 PM
 
 
FBoss
Veteran
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Ill say this too, and remember what I said about Prefrance, I love my HAWK!

The good ole times are now ,000132
06-11-2008 12:40 PM
 
 
astong35
New Heliman
Location: marengo, IL U.S

Thank you very much for your responses. Sadly, I never thought of local clubs, I will definitely start looking up those now. 1000$+ is a lot for me as of now. I was hoping i could get the basics for a decent price and try to add on or whatever.

As to Electric or Nitro I'd have to say electric probably. I would have to guess the nearest store for Nitro would be ~30 minutes away. I like the cleaner quieter heli too, but I could change my mind easily.

Thanks again, It's time to look into clubs. :P
06-11-2008 06:20 PM
 
 
kc8qpu
Senior Heliman
Location: Hudsonville,MI, USA

Well that brings up another issue. Electrics really arent all that cheap. Start adding up all the extra's. You will need Lipo batteries (about $100 a piece), a lipo charger at least $100, a balancer, then take into account it will take approximately an hour or so to charge batteries. I too was once going to go that route. But Nitro was much cheaper and you got a lot more stick time which is essential. Just my 2cents though.

Bring back the rotary phone so we don't have to press "1" to proceed to ENGLIGH.
06-11-2008 06:32 PM
 
 
FBoss
Veteran
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

I agree with that. I really think, just starting out a 30 or 50 nitro is the way to go. The 450s are just too jumpy to learn on. A 30/50 is so much more stable and you do get alot more stick time on em

The good ole times are now ,000132
06-11-2008 06:46 PM
 
 
kc8qpu
Senior Heliman
Location: Hudsonville,MI, USA

Here ya go. Not real expensive. It is a V1 but if your just starting out you will never know the difference.
http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t433649p1/

Bring back the rotary phone so we don't have to press "1" to proceed to ENGLIGH.
06-11-2008 07:31 PM
 
 
Papa Sal
Senior Heliman
Location: Reno, Nevada- USA

All great advise guys! I started out with a T-rex 450XL...a good choice for electric,and reasonable in price. And as you get better you can up grade it later. I use the Clearview Flight Simulator on line; It cost around $40.00 and has great graphics. You use your transmiter as a controller, so another $40.00 for software and a USB cord to connect your transmitter to your computer. And they offer a life time of up grades Then practice, practice, practice. Have Fun Papa Sal
06-11-2008 07:36 PM
 
 
TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

If you have a decent place to fly near your home (backyard, driveway, school yard, etc) and you think you have an hour or two to set aside for practice each day, then get a 450 sized heli and go nuts. With 4 batteries you could fly almost constantly for an hour or more, and that is a wonderful way to build your skills fast.

If you can't fly near your home and plan to learn at a local field, then pick up a used .50 nitro and get some help.

- Chris

Variety+spice+life=King2+Rex450+Some500
06-11-2008 07:55 PM
 
 
leftyatm
Senior Heliman
Location: Elkton, MD, USA

May seem a bit pricey but it's not that bad at all. I am still new to the hobby but it has taken me by storm. I absolutely. Whatever extra money I have left over goes into this hobby. I don't enjoy going out on weekends and spending $100 plus on drinks especially for girls who are just using you. With that said I have sunk a lot of money in here and at the moment have 2 450's and a 600. I have read a lot of good things about the T-Rex 500. So guess what!? I bought one. I haven't gotten it yet but I am so excited. I got the entire kit for $1,139. That to me is a reasonable price. This hobby is not cheap and if you were hoping it was, well it's not so either back out now or jump in with both feet. Now that price it's ready to fly, from batteries, to servos to the kit to even a premium DX7 Radio. I am super excited. They could have built it for me but you being new, build them yourself. This will help in future tuning and rebuilds. (which you will have many) I know the site I purchased from (Flying-hobby.com) has many ready to fly kits meaning again you can have them assemble or build yourself and all you have to do is fly it. It doesnt need any other electronics. It is a great website. I would certainly recommend them, I have used them in the past and have had great results. But another thing is I strongly recommend using a sim even if it is a free one from the net.

2X T-Rex 450 SE V2 T-Rex 500 CF T-Rex 600 CF and T-Rex 600 NSP
06-11-2008 08:18 PM
 
 
tricid
Heliman
Location: Sherman, TX USA

Mainly due to the 'support' equipment, I don't think its very possible to get in to this hobby for less than a grand. Assuming a non fixed pitch heli, all the servos, reciever, transmitter, field equipment (gas/starter/etc or chargers/batteries etc), I just don't think you could without going cheap in areas you'd regret later, or catching a lot of great deals on used stuff.

Maybe going with a 7ch radio and a .30 sized bird (nitro), or 450 size electric. Personally I'd go nitro just so you could go bigger for the same price (in my personal experience, my mini titan cost as much or more than the .30)

Beyond that, I'm a thunder tiger fan. I have a .30 v2, 50 Titan, and e325 mini titan and they're all great.
06-11-2008 09:48 PM
 
 
TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

I am a firm believer that you can buy a good "micro" heli, quality electrics for it, and learn to hover for about $600. That would include everything and even a few extra parts. But To really enjoy this hobby, I think more like $800-$1000 is a good number. That will allow for some nicer stuff, heli included, and a few more batteries. The actual cost will always depend on the user. They can choose an expensive heli from the get go or can crash $100s worth of parts weekly and still spend the same amount of money. So it all depends on them and how they decide to do things.

- Chris

Variety+spice+life=King2+Rex450+Some500
06-11-2008 09:54 PM
 
 
leftyatm
Senior Heliman
Location: Elkton, MD, USA

Does this work? There are other options. But this looks the best and to top it off you get a reasonable radio that you can use in the future on more than one heli. But it's ready to fly even with a charger for that battery. It is not the best kit out there and some of the weak links will be the non metal gears in the servos and the plastic head but that would get you started and you could upgrade as you crash cause you probably will.


http://flying-hobby.com/catalog/pro...roducts_id=2732

2X T-Rex 450 SE V2 T-Rex 500 CF T-Rex 600 CF and T-Rex 600 NSP
06-12-2008 01:09 AM
 
 
Blade_Master1
Veteran
Location: Canada

If you want a micro on a budget try this one best bang for the $$$
you will need to add loctite everywhere though and do a proper setup
it is a trex v2 knock off but it is a very good product
http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product...roducts_id=5672

And if you have a 1000$ for equipment and accessories and want the latest and greatest electric I would get this one
http://www.rcflightstore.com/produc...roducts_id=1745


Now if you wanted a starter nitro I would go with this one
with field equipment and electronics your looking at a 1000$
http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=2216







JM2C's :)
06-12-2008 01:53 AM
 
 
tricid
Heliman
Location: Sherman, TX USA

out of curiosity, how does that copterX bundle compare to a 'normal' electric like a mini titan/trex 450?

That price...I'm just amazed. My dad is wanting an electric on the cheap, I didn't think that price was possible. Anyone have experience with that package as a whole?

A lot of these links have been interesting to me actually, this thread is full of win
06-12-2008 03:20 AM
 
 
Blade_Master1
Veteran
Location: Canada

only have experience all metal head for my trex
aside from loctite the quality is very good



JM2C's :)
06-12-2008 03:43 AM
 
 
TJinGuy
Elite Veteran
Location: Socorro, NM - USA

There are many Rex450 clones including the EXI and CopterX. Just think of them as a Rex but not. Some are parts compatible and others have made changes. But also remember that the actual heli chassis is only a part and many times a small part of the overall cost of the whole package. For example if you buy a EXI for $99, then you will most likely spend $200 on a Sim, $200-$300 on a radio, $300 on batteries and a charger, and $200-$300 on servos and gyro. So even spending $400 on an actual Rex450SE v2 is way less than half the overall cost. And when you go to a 500 or 600 sized heli, all those number go way up except the radio.

I guess my point is that you need to always look at the whole picture.

- Chris

Variety+spice+life=King2+Rex450+Some500
06-12-2008 03:47 AM
 
 
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