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Red-Rx7
Senior Heliman
Location: Olathe, KS - USA

Hello...

I am building my Vario Benzin Trainer, and cannot help but to think that something is weird here. The manual says nothing about cutting the linkage rods, yet it is impossible for the position that the manual says to place the servos and ball crank arms to reside with the pieces that I have.

I am trying to do the 3 Servo 120o setup, but at this point where the servos attach nothing is different than the 4 servo 90o setup.

Look at the following picture:



First: Ignore the placement of the ball end on the ball crank arm (seen in far left of the picture - the ball faces you the viewer - it needs to be on the other side). I need to put it on the inside pointing to the frame. Yet, for length reference, it is there to show the length of the rod.

Second: Notice the two rods on the outside (closes and furthest from viewing the picture). The ball ends are screwed on as far as they will go (more on this below); but are not in the Vario window. Even if they were, it would not make a difference as the distance between the two are too far apart.

Third: The middle rod is almost at the correct length, for if the rod would go through the ball link ends into the window area, it seems like it would be a perfect length. But it doesn't....

Now, why are the rods not into the window of the ball link ends?

See this picture:



Unless I have defective ball link ends, that little tiny hole you see in the plastic measures out to be less than 1/3rd of a millimeter. Yet, the diameter of the rod itself is 2.5mm.

If I just try to continue to screw that rod in, it will strip the inside of the threading for the ball link end. I cannot really access it either to drill, as I would need a 2mm drill and have to be pretty exact not to muff up any of the internal threading for the ball-link end. This is how all eight of these ends are.

So what am I doing wrong, or what has Vario ommited in their instructions or quality of parts? As for a solution, I have to cut the rod down?

For reference on my ball crank arms, here is a side profile picture. Notice that it is at a perfect 90o angle:



Thanks,
Mike
06-08-2008 12:51 AM
 
 
Red-Rx7
Senior Heliman
Location: Olathe, KS - USA

Ok.

I see where I crossed myself over.

The position where the ball crank arms are, is not the factory specified position for the 4 Servo 90o setup. I have them placed one hole forward, which is the proper 3 Servo 120o setup. Hence, Joe sent me a 2.5mm Die to cut the rod to the proper length to accomidate the correct position of the ball crank arm.

That was pretty easy, wasn't it?

John, you had to have used different length rods to have your ball cranks in that location; or you got "shorted" on your original rod length!

Off to cut the lengths. Since I see in the manual it says that it should be 158mm from center of the ball link to center of the ball link; I was just going to measure the distance between holes (center to center) and remove that amount from the rod. I may even take an extra millimeter or two off so I can have some adjustability.

In regards to the "factory" location of the pitch (inside the frames) ball crank arm, I think my JR 8717 servos just give it enough of a tolerance difference to cause it to almost be perfect. I will take a few millimeter off that rod as well.

Thanks,
Mike
06-08-2008 03:17 AM
 
 
xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

Man,, that was fast, glad you got it figured out.. Congrats,, XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com
06-08-2008 03:43 AM
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toejab
Senior Heliman
Location: NEW YORK

i received my vario pre-owned. it was set up for 3 servo CCPM.it too had the bellcrank in the wrong hole. i figured it out, since on mine,the bellcrankls were far from the 90 degrees that i was used to building helis...but i had to email joe to verify my findings as i could not not find any instructions which varied with the 3 verses 4 servo set-up as to placement of the belcrank.

IF I AIN'T FLYIN' - I'M PROBABLY BUYIN'
06-08-2008 04:31 AM
 
 
Red-Rx7
Senior Heliman
Location: Olathe, KS - USA

Thanks John!

I need to overcome one more hurdle; a mounting position for the HeliCommand unit. Then it is ready to go for some basic trimming and such!

BTW, I took off 18 millimeters from the 140 millimeter shaft, and it turned out perfect.

Thanks,
Mike
06-08-2008 04:33 AM
 
 
chinnook
Senior Heliman
Location: Corpus Christi TX USA

You need to change te rods out to the 110 mm length, check Zachs gallery, from bellcrank to servo.

chinnook
06-09-2008 03:15 PM
 
 
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