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Mavrik1
Senior Heliman
Location: USA

I'm trying to understand the mindset of people NOT interested in 3D flight. My brother after ten years of flying a heli has not tried to do a paro yet. He refuses details on why, only to say he is not ready yet (ten years, how long does one need?). I did my first back/forward flips after 2 weeks of flying (after lots of sim time) and find it to be a rush.

Why are you not interested in flying 3D? (question is for people with 3D capable machines)
I'm trying to understand my bother mindset, so Please PM your answers.

The bottom line is having fun.
05-31-2008 04:38 PM
 
 
rent
Heliman
Location: Central USA

Why PM? That's what public forums are for.

There may be more than you interested in this topic.
05-31-2008 04:55 PM
 
 
Topher
Veteran
Location: Grosse Ile, Michigan

Non-3D heli pilots are planker spys trying to bring down the heli community from the inside.

Get a life? How the hell do you fly a life?
05-31-2008 04:56 PM
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rcfreak7
Senior Heliman
Location: southern california

i think flying should be graceful and in my opinion 3D is not graceful

i am my own dog
05-31-2008 05:00 PM
 
 
MAVRICK
Veteran
Location: Las Vegas NV

Some people just like to fly their rc heli like the real full scale helis fly, because it's not normal for a heli to do "piros and upside down flying ect ect. I know this one guy who has been flying rc for 2 years and all he does is hover, mainly because he is scared to crash and doesn't want to spend more money then he has to.
05-31-2008 05:01 PM
 
 
ROSSM
Heliman
Location: UK

Batteries seem last longer with non 3D flyers (scale) types IF they fly electric. Seems scale forums have very little of "Why has my battery puffed"
A collegue has just chalked up his 90th charge on LiPo with 9 hours total flying. No puffs - no fires. He's 66 and a newbie ( six months from scratch!)
Says something about care of batteries by easy flying. (Better on the nerves as well!!).
05-31-2008 05:08 PM
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GroundMagnet
Senior Heliman
Location: St Louis

Well I can definitely see not wanting to do 3D because of a money issue. If you don’t have a lot of extra income but still want to fly Heli’s learning 3D is not for you. Me personally, if I didn’t have the money for repairs I would grab my lawnmower and hit the neighborhood and I’m 45 years old, oh the looks I would get.
05-31-2008 05:12 PM
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

I love flying 3D but after flying a scale heli I can certainly see that side of it also. Plus I suspect the pucker factor of putting a nice scale bird through its paces is greater than doing 3D with a plastic fantastic. Add to that more outsiders can relate to and understand that style of flying. Then you have FAI which they can spend more money on than a turbine and get really tedious with. So the hobby offers as much diversity as the planker side. Some people get into it just because they like real helis and have no interest in doing anything that a real one can't. There is something for everyone.
05-31-2008 05:30 PM
 
 
SuperSixTwo
Senior Heliman
Location: Lockwood, NV

Whats the big deal with 3D? I know my helos with 10 neg pitch will fly upsidedown. So? So lets get the blades right on the ground. Yeah So? I dont care to see the blades right next to the ground. Would it not be the same to hover normal and fly around a pole?
yes the organized somewhat crazy flipping around and whatnot is cool to watch, but for me watching someone hover in 15+ winds or pick up a sling load is just as cool. Slow flybys, spot landings, autos, are just as nice.
05-31-2008 05:31 PM
 
 
Dood
Elite Veteran
Location: America's Dairyland

Why not fly a 3D capable machine? Some like the responsiveness and the speed of a 3D helicopter, and they prefer to just not 'fly around'

If you take the "3D" helicopters off the market, there aren't too many options left for us SPORT pilots.




This is sport flying




This is also sport flying




This is a perpetual hoverer



This is 3D!


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(='.'=) The Dood abides.
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05-31-2008 05:32 PM
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Mutt
Key Veteran
Location: t ca usa

I am trying to understand the mindset of people who feel everyone should fly 3d.
Some like 3d some dont me once you seen someone doing it it all looks the same rather boring if you ask me. Scale is the way for me.
05-31-2008 05:35 PM
 
 
whirlyspud
Veteran
Location: USA

To each his own. The real question is if the person enjoys what they are doing, why should you even care?

Mike
05-31-2008 05:36 PM
 
 
Mutt
Key Veteran
Location: t ca usa

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The real question is if the person enjoys what they are doing, why should you even care?
Exactly!!
05-31-2008 05:39 PM
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

The great thing about learning 3D even if you don't care much for the style is that you don't fear finding yourself in any orientation and you can better handle some in flight failures. The heli starts to feel like the back of your hand and any maneuver can get to the point where you aren't even thinking about it.
05-31-2008 05:43 PM
 
 
raptor50luvver
Veteran
Location: southampton UK

Spot on,i couldnt really care less how each individual chooses to fly his or her heli that they bought with their money.
05-31-2008 05:45 PM
 
 
whirlyspud
Veteran
Location: USA

You could say the same with just regular sport flying. There are all sorts of orientations you can learn without it having to be "3d".

Mike
05-31-2008 05:47 PM
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

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There are all sorts of orientations you can learn without it having to be "3d".

I guess we need to agree on some definition of 3D first. To me, 3D is mastering all orientations. For example, you learn to roll, you then want to learn rolling circuits, then want to roll the other direction and learn those circuits. Everything building off the basics in an attempt to control it no matter what else it is doing.
05-31-2008 05:53 PM
 
 
whirlyspud
Veteran
Location: USA

So are you saying rolling is or is not 3d?

I don't consider it 3d, but I am sure some people do. I've always thought the term 3d was pretty lame. Guys come up to me and say nice 3d. It aint 3d to me, its just flying.

Mike
05-31-2008 06:03 PM
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

No I don't consider any one trick to be 3D flying by itself.
05-31-2008 06:14 PM
 
 
Mavrik1
Senior Heliman
Location: USA

OK, these are making sense. I wonder why he just doesn't tell me he is not interested in 3D.

I was under the impression as soon as a heli leaves upright flight, it's considered 3D.

The bottom line is having fun.
05-31-2008 06:20 PM
 
 
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