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Century Hawk - Falcon - Raven - Predator > throttle and pitch curve
 
 
mikesr
Heliman
Location: usvi

Hi what is the best throttle and pitch for the hawk pro. let me know u plesae . thanks mike
05-23-2008 07:51 PM
 
 
Dilbeck
Key Veteran
Location: Springdale Arkansas

That would depend on what type of flying your after. Nice steady hover, fast forward flight, Mild 3D, Hard 3D.

If it doesn't fly sell it!
05-23-2008 08:07 PM
 
 
toner123
Heliman
Location: norfolk, va

normal: low stick -2 mid 5 high stick +9 (hovering)

idel 1: low stick -5 high stick +9 (Aerobatic)

idel 2: low stick -9 mid 0 high stick +9 (3D)

Autorotations/Throttle Hold: low stick -5 mid 5 high stick +12

these are the settings that i use and they seem to work great also my friend uses these in his hawk and he does a ton of 3D and does well so i hope this helped
05-27-2008 02:43 AM
 
 
thelane
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada

That's helpful toner123 - thanks. What about throttle curves?
Not sure about mikesr, but I am using an OS37.

JR Vibe 50 and DX7
05-27-2008 11:33 PM
 
 
toner123
Heliman
Location: norfolk, va

well let me do some research i use to have a os 37 in mine till i switched to toki 40 so let me see if i can find my old info sheet will post back soon goin to look now
05-28-2008 12:34 AM
 
 
jester4
Veteran
Location: Brampton, Ontario (Flyin' outta Mississauga)

I agree with Dilbeck, your flying style will dictate your setup. If you are just hovering and FF, and have no plans for aerobatics or 3D, then -3 low, +5 mid, +10 high on pitch with a linear throttle curve startig at 0% low, 50% mid and 100% high is all you need in only 1 mode.

You can then later add idle1 to be more of a -10 degrees low, 0 mid, +10 high with a throttle curve of 100% high, 50% mid and 100% high. The problem with that is that if you use the top setup and then later add the idle up, when you switch the heli will drop rapidly in the air because of the different pitch curves between the 2.

I personally like to set up all my pitch curves in all modes the same (ie, -10, 0, +10), that way when I switch between flight modes the heli does not jump.

Please note, the % I gave for throttle are just general guidelines, as your particular setup can be different than the next guy, so it may need to be tweaked a little, but at least you have an idea of how it looks like.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!
05-28-2008 03:12 PM
 
 
thelane
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada

I personally only fly FF and will be practicing a bit of sport flying this year, but no 3D stuff.

JR Vibe 50 and DX7
05-28-2008 11:26 PM
 
 
Dilbeck
Key Veteran
Location: Springdale Arkansas

thelane, if only fff, lower your head speed 1600rpm on the Hawk, set your pitch curves to hover at 1/2 stick, you will still need a -4 or -5 on the low stick to get her down in the wind but will surely only need +9 at full stick which you will not use except for a fast power climb out when in trouble. The tail will start to bobble up and down if the head speed is to low so check and re adjust as needed.

If it doesn't fly sell it!
05-29-2008 01:28 AM
 
 
thelane
Senior Heliman
Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada

OK, but why does everywhere I read say to setup hover at 3/4 stick?
What's the difference/benefit of 1/2 throttle or 3/4 throttle hovering?

JR Vibe 50 and DX7
05-29-2008 06:29 AM
 
 
Raffy
Key Veteran
Location: Chicago, Illinois

1/2 stick setup for hover is for beginner. 3/4 stick hover (0 deg at center stick) is for advanced pilots.
05-29-2008 06:49 AM
 
 
Dilbeck
Key Veteran
Location: Springdale Arkansas

Or if your only flying in fff there is no need to hover at 3/4 stick. 1/2 stick hover is for less sensitivity of the throttle. If you plan on going inverted it would create a bad habit of feel to hover at 1/2 stick. It has nothing to due with (advanced pilots).

If it doesn't fly sell it!
05-29-2008 01:10 PM
 
 
Zman9545
Veteran
Location: The Golden STATE

Does anyone use the same pitch curves for 1 and 2 but lower headspeed on 1? I'd like to attempt weedwacking low inverts but not so sensative on the cyclics. What is the preferred setup. More expo? Unsure


Trex600N Pro
Kinetic 50

-The ONLY way you fail is when you quit.-
06-01-2008 05:31 AM
 
 
jester4
Veteran
Location: Brampton, Ontario (Flyin' outta Mississauga)

All my pitch curves are the same in flight modes, and I just change the RPM.

I would probably say to use more expo in 1 flight mode rather than the other to see the difference. I would not want a lower headspeed just to soften the cyclics, that could be bad in an emergency situation where you need the juice.

Having said that, if you are not comfortable with inverted flight, why go for the low stuff already? If you're ok @ 10 feet high you'll be ok at 1ft high. Don't rush into it.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!
06-02-2008 02:19 PM
 
 
Zman9545
Veteran
Location: The Golden STATE

Thanks Jester,
I'm confident holding an invert about 10ft in all orientation. Just have this urge to go lower The reason I'm inquiring because I just finished watching a video where I heard the guys headspeed drop before he laid it on his headbutton. That's lower than I'm willing to try, but I think you know what I'm trying to get at. I will try your approach.


Trex600N Pro
Kinetic 50

-The ONLY way you fail is when you quit.-
06-02-2008 03:38 PM
 
 
jester4
Veteran
Location: Brampton, Ontario (Flyin' outta Mississauga)

I wonder if the lower headspeed was intentional? Hmmmmm......

Anyway, I personally would not lower the HS, but then again I haven't done lower than 2-3 ft anyway, so what do I know

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!
06-02-2008 04:37 PM
 
 
Zman9545
Veteran
Location: The Golden STATE

Jester,
I'm always open to other ideas and I just finished setting up my heli similar to yours with pitch curves all the same on all modes with the exception of the lower half on Hold and Normal. The only difference is the change in RPMs from mode to mode. Fired it up and I like it!! Going to setup my 600N, the same.

Thanks for the idea


Trex600N Pro
Kinetic 50

-The ONLY way you fail is when you quit.-
06-02-2008 07:42 PM
 
 
jester4
Veteran
Location: Brampton, Ontario (Flyin' outta Mississauga)

 rip it up

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!
06-02-2008 07:45 PM
 
 
Zman9545
Veteran
Location: The Golden STATE

Quote 
I wonder if the lower headspeed was intentional?

It sounds to me like it was. Check it out on the link bellow on one of prior topics that "Dood" posted under title "This is 3D."

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t435604p1/


Trex600N Pro
Kinetic 50

-The ONLY way you fail is when you quit.-
06-02-2008 07:56 PM
 
 
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