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HIROBO Freya - Sceadu - Shuttle > Hello everybody. Here is NEW HIROBO HELI FOR 3D .but price is.........
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South



One I would not buy.
One I would.
Guess which one?

(hint) Not the one that looks like a fish.
06-18-2008 11:01 AM
 
 
hootowl
Elite Veteran
Location: Garnet Valley, Pa.

I just don't understand how people can put such a high priority on the looks of a shell of fiberglass when the real design importance is in the mechanics and flight characteristics of the heli, not the shape of the canopy.

I HATE the looks of the Raptor canopies but they sell like crazy because the canopy isn't the deciding factor.

And to top it off, these canopy design exercises keep turning every heli into the same look..... the Synergy/Aurora look. Not that it's a bad thing but who wants every heli to look the same? Not me.

I love the looks of the MA Stratus/Fury/Extreme canopies but I've read where some people don't like them. I would think that very few people that purchase a competition level heli like the MA Stratus base their purchase on the shape or looks of the canopy.

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06-18-2008 12:38 PM
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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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I just don't understand how people can put such a high priority on the looks of a shell of fiberglass when the real design importance is in the mechanics and flight characteristics of the heli, not the shape of the canopy.


Yes one of those people is me. Mechanics are important and it wouldn't get a look in if they were not good. (and I used to be a mechanic so I do know and understand good mechanics) But looks are important as well. It's like a brilliant car in a crap body...goes well but no one cares about it. If it looks good you are more likely to look after it and enjoy owning it. Thats how I am anyway.

Their shell looks crap. The mechanics look great but it doesn't have the whole package so it slips down the priority list. Unless third party canopies are available or the freya canopy could fit on it I more than likely wouldn't own one. Looks are very important to me.

Guess we are all different and thats a good thing. Yes the synergy/aurora look is hot and I like it...not because others do but merely because I like them. So do a lot of others and that must say something about how a lot of people expect a heli to look right now.

To each their own I guess.
06-18-2008 01:10 PM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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I HATE the looks of the Raptor canopies but they sell like crazy because the canopy isn't the deciding factor

Yes and this is due to cost effectiveness and the compromise people are prepared to make to enter the hobby.

I hate the raptor canopy as well.
06-18-2008 01:12 PM
 
 
fla heli boy
Senior Heliman
Location: cape coral, florida

Kinda like a woman

You have two equally beautiful women (on the inside) standing side by side.
Now....one looks like Rosie O'Donell (well just the looks, we all now what kind of person she is on the inside) and one looks like Jessica Alba. Hmmmm........who ya gonna choose???
Yeah, that canopy reminds me of Rosie O'Donell.....

"If it flies, floats or f***ks, you're better off renting it"
06-18-2008 05:07 PM
 
 
tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

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One I would not buy.
One I would.
Guess which one?

(hint) Not the one that looks like a fish.

Frankly, other than the paint job, I don't see enough difference to matter . . . . they are both pretty much the same shape and contour. Perhaps if the artist applied the same paint look to both, a more meaningful comparison could be made . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .
06-18-2008 05:30 PM
 
 
iher
Heliman
Location: mexico

( no offence, all in good fun)

How shallow can you get!
ok lets behave like children ( I see some people understood very well the part of“ friendly, fun and mutual respect”)

Although mecanics have a very specific aesthetic directly related to ther mecanical function or manufacturing process, graphics and canopy looks have also functions: to transmit an emotion, attitude or sensation( besides prtection, aerodinamics and visual orientation recognition at distance).
But If you are really into form and color, lets start by talking about a full canopy( tail, landing gear, and a uniform for the pilot once you are at it), and not just a ridicule mask.
Its like..... Jessica Alba with her flesh stripped off her bones except on her face......yeah that`s rrreeaallly pretty!

Its should be one or the other ( a nice body on a Bentley or a tube frame on a dune buggy)
06-18-2008 09:34 PM
 
 
BJames111
Elite Veteran
Location: Billings, Montana

I think it looks great, and it'll be on my wish list for sure. I actually like that it is different than the rest of the "cookie cutter" heli look a likes.


Excellent job Hirobo

Brian James
Miniature Aircraft Fury Extreme
G-Force Heli
Elevated R/C
06-18-2008 09:51 PM
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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

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Frankly, other than the paint job, I don't see enough difference to matter . . . . they are both pretty much the same shape and contour. Perhaps if the artist applied the same paint look to both, a more meaningful comparison could be made . . .

Wow. I guess asthetics are important to some and not others. The slightest line change here and there make a completely different look. The two canopies are very different when any paint is taken out of the picture. Mind you it's only offensive to some eyes and not others. I guess thats the reason some people love ugly cars or think their raptors look good...


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But If you are really into form and color, lets start by talking about a full canopy( tail, landing gear, and a uniform for the pilot once you are at it), and not just a ridicule mask.

Yes full fuses look way better than any canopy but even some of them are ugly. 3D heli's dont need the weight or complexity of full fuselages and would be detrimental to their flight characteristics so we are stuck with small frontal canopies...which may as well look as nice, sleek and sexy as they can....unless you dont really care about that sort of thing. Something has to look good in my eyes before I'll care about it.

We had a nice car once but after the thing was dented from the wife,kids and the supermarket carparks and I couldn't keep up with repairing it I lost interest and couldn't give a stuff about it now.
She cleans it still...I just drive it to get from place to place. I dont enjoy owning it...crap looks on functional mechanics.
06-18-2008 09:59 PM
 
 
Ghostrider
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

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One I would not buy.
One I would.
Guess which one?

I'm sorry but I feel exactly the same way as Helinutnz. If a heli does not look good, I am completely turned off no matter how well it will fly. Call me stupid but it's all part of the complete package for me. That's why I have never owned a Raptor.

I would love to have one of these heli's but like many people I will not buy it if that is the only canopy available. This Hirobo may be cutting edge on the inside but it's 10 years old on the outside!

Sam Gammo
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".
06-18-2008 10:00 PM
 
 
tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

Aesthetics *are* important to me (but not to the point that I would fly a turd that looked good . . . flight perfomance/build quality/durability still come first), but I still feel that if both these canopies could be judged with the same paint scheme, folks would feel differently. I like the painted one more, but have a hunch it's because of the paint scheme, and not the shape . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .
06-18-2008 11:32 PM
 
 
Ghostrider
Key Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA

No contest!





Sam Gammo
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".
06-19-2008 04:20 AM
 
 
tadawson
Elite Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

Sorry . . . I still don't see enough difference to care - if anything, without the fancy paint on the "contender", I tend to prefer the Hirobo canopy . . . . Now you want to talk ugly, lets look at Raptors and T-Rexes . . . . I'd rather look at a baboons butt . . .

- Tim

The more I touch electrics, the more I grow to hate them . . . .
06-19-2008 04:42 AM
 
 
clive45
Veteran
Location: NSW Australia

The choice of the 2 woman is not valid as you cannot just take off the canopy and change it for a coule of $$$ so to speak

He who dies with the most toys is none the less DEAD
06-19-2008 04:51 AM
 
 
JimT
Heliman
Location: Warrenton, OR

". . . . I'd rather look at a baboons butt . . ."

- Tim

Now that would make an interesting looking canopy!

Jim
06-19-2008 05:07 AM
 
 
BJames111
Elite Veteran
Location: Billings, Montana

In that case here ya go!


The Hirobo is better looking.

Brian James
Miniature Aircraft Fury Extreme
G-Force Heli
Elevated R/C
06-19-2008 05:22 AM
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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

I think I just had a bit of spew come up my throat. Yuk.

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Sorry . . . I still don't see enough difference to care

Hmmmmm.....I see a huge difference. One looks like a ferrari and one looks like an austin A30. Of course thats in my eyes. And I care about what I spend my money on so it has to look good to me.

I am never going to knock Hirobo quality. I am sold on it. Excellent smooth machines and I am sure the Turbulence will fit easily in that bracket. I just could not look at that canopy of theirs and feel "proud" to own it. So the mechanics aren't in question....looks are still very important.....and this is not a cheap bird.

I'd have a trex even though it's not especially pretty simply because it's cost effective to smash into the ground and very easy to fix. I'd hate to ditch my x-spec.

Just saying....Hirobo will not sell this bird to a few because of the way it looks. Maybe silly....but thats the way it is. There are other better looking machines out there with equal mechanics.
06-19-2008 08:12 AM
 
 
F3CWNB
Senior Heliman
Location: Napier, New Zealand

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is this the canopy we are talking about?

yuk if it is.

Have you see one in the flesh? May be it looks better...

...I have seen worse, - JR Vigour

Just my Opinion

'Life' is Looking Up!!!
06-22-2008 06:11 AM
 
 
F3CWNB
Senior Heliman
Location: Napier, New Zealand

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is this the canopy we are talking about?

yuk if it is.

Have you see one in the flesh? May be it looks better...

...I have seen worse, - JR Vigour

Just my Opinion

'Life' is Looking Up!!!
06-22-2008 06:14 AM
 
 
Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

true colin.
Both are a bit ugly
06-22-2008 07:39 AM
 
 
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