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wac
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Location: winter park co

Hello All,

Im wondering if anyone has created an HDR 360 pano?


wac
05-09-2008 06:32 AM
 
 
AZ ChopperCam
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Location: Arizona

aerial or ground? I've done plenty on the ground and had just started playing with aerial HDR panos before I had to quit flying last month.

although that is not entirely true I guess as I wasn't doing true HDR but rather, Exposure Fusing (which is nearly the same thing)
05-09-2008 08:18 AM
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tabbytabb
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Location: seattle

I have done a couple true 180 HDR pans and then some some HDR 360s using different exposures kicked out of camera raw.

I think I prefer the look of a LDR image myself.

Tabb
05-09-2008 03:11 PM
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FLAP
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Location: Michigan

WTF is an HDR - THX
05-09-2008 04:13 PM
 
 
wac
Senior Heliman
Location: winter park co

Flap, you are funny... HDR is "high dynamic range imaging" If you cant find it on here then just type HDR in Google and it will tell you everything you could ever want to know

Im not an expert on this subject but i use Photo Shop X2 that has an HDR function. For me its the process of taking 3 of the same photos at diffrent exposures -2 0 +2 using AEB and combing them to create a 3d type image.

HDR photos are fun to make but, I havent been albe create a true looking HDR 360 spherical vr tour so if anyone has, I am really intrested in taking a peek...


wac
05-09-2008 05:08 PM
 
 
nooobs
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Location: Toronto, Canada

Here's a sample...

A Ballroom...

QT

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05-09-2008 05:21 PM
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CKY
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Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada

Wac, do you mean Corel PaintshopPro X2??

I am using the X version, just have not upgraded yet.

Chris

PS...serving up an HDR highly worked pano on the web is sort of like serving good champagne in a paper cup. I assume you have seen most people's monitor setups, dismal. Great for showing the capabilities of the medium, to those that are interested.
05-09-2008 06:12 PM
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vrwired
Senior Heliman
Location: Boulder County, CO

noobs, that ballroom HDR is sweet..

These images are not Panos, but pretty awesome..If you don't know what HDR images are... check these out!

http://abduzeedo.com/20-beautiful-hdr-pictures

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05-09-2008 06:28 PM
 
 
Badllarma
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Location: North West UK

HDRI is the new buzz word that camera makers will make there next big selling point.

In the main stream it was started and still is used in the visual effects industry to capture the full dynamic range of lighting with a film scene HDRI coupled with IBL (Image based Lighting) is the main stay of making something look within the scene basically to match lighting on the CGI and the lighting in camera.

It basically give the digital information more latitued in the lighting it captures. It to be honest has limited application for still work i'm not saying it's not needed full stop but if you cannot capture and edit the required information you need within a standard RAW file for you normal AP work HDRI ain't going to give you a miricle cure. It does have it uses but poor HDRI looks like poor HDRI (it gives a simlar look to bleach bypass to be honest done poorly).
05-09-2008 10:33 PM
 
 
Panos
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Location: Syros Island - GREECE

Good point Badllarma!
05-09-2008 10:44 PM
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vrwired
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Location: Boulder County, CO

Badllarma,
Interesting point.. So you think you can pull the same range of +/_ EV out of a one shot raw image?

What exactly is RAW capable of? what is the full EV spectrum window that is captured.? I am sure it is different camera to camera.

You say for AP, RAW should be sufficient. Yeah I agree on the most part. I see no need to reveal to much of an artistic touch past just nice composition, color tone/saturation, contrast and exposure,.. Too wide of a dynamic range of these aspects are not really necessary to a client or such.. they need the images for their own marketing use in most cases.. Which does not call for the almost fantasy like feel that you get when looking at HDR images. AP images need to look real on the most part under most "usefull" circumstances .

I posted a link to some pictures a couple posts back.. you think RAW can produce the same results as those images? That would be great.. And it would also allow multiple exposure HDR images to capture moving scenes, which can't be done with bracketing or manually captured levels of exposure one after the other...

I guess you could just process a bunch of separetely exposed images out of the same raw file.. I just don't know exactly how much exposure information is captured to file?

hmmmmmmmmmmm
Maybe I'm just babbling...

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05-10-2008 07:43 AM
 
 
Badllarma
Senior Heliman
Location: North West UK

Hi vrwired,
A typical RAW image has 5 stops of latitude so a image taken at F8 with decent software you should be able to take it from F4.5 to F14 "just". Depending on the original lighting conditions.
So you could get the following

F4.5, F5.0, F5.6, F6.3, F7.1, F8 F9, F10, F11, F13, F14 from your single RAW image.

HDRI will go from black (no image information) to white (all image information burnt out). I think with my Canon 20D that approx 20 - 22 images.

My point is using modern kit and software do you really need the huge latitude HDRI gives you for producing pretty normal/standard commercial photographs??
If of course your going into a specialist photographic art route or taking image for a specific commercial reason E.G a album cover of a up and coming rock band then of course HDRI is pretty cool tool to add to your digital tool box. But day to day I cannot really see the requirement.

And to answer your question I do think with some of the images on the link you could do them with standard RAW file and a bit of post in photoshop.
Also HDRI is one "complete" exposure meaning it contains the full band so there is really no such thing as different HDRI exposures as there all in there in the one image.

Some other points on this
Standard C41 print film has 3 stops of latitude.
E6 slide film has one stop of latitude

And I still think HDRI just looks like a heavy bleach bypass look done by video/flim compositing software.
Or E6 process film put through a C41 process which in the trade was know as being F&*@ed
05-10-2008 09:08 AM
 
 
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