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SteveH
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Location: Texas

by Patrick Buchanan




Barack Obama says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demandsheard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of
freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Rev Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no government anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions of dollars have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid,
Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks--with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants
over white applicants.



Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids.


Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault
that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena, Louisiana. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

HEAR HEAR!!

SteveH
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AMA76186
05-08-2008 03:55 PM
 
 
xcellgasman101
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Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

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HEAR HEAR!!

HEAR HEAR!!!!!!!! Another great post, Steve,, Thanks,, XGM/VGM

John Crotts
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05-08-2008 04:08 PM
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#55
Senior Heliman
Location: hmmmm....

good stuff....

Crusader28
05-08-2008 04:08 PM
 
 
dick smith
Senior Heliman
Location: perth

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First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of
freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.


Ha... wat a joke that is......you had segregation till the late 60s, and decent white godfearing folk thought the blackfella was a lower form of life, and prolly still do.........
05-08-2008 04:27 PM
 
 
#55
Senior Heliman
Location: hmmmm....

where would you suggest that blacks are treated better/ and have greater chances of becoming wealthy than here?

Crusader28
05-08-2008 04:33 PM
 
 
Learn to Fly
Key Veteran
Location: Yalesville Connecticut

#55 I would NOT PISS on you if you were on FIRE!!!


Jeff
Believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see...
05-08-2008 05:28 PM
 
 
Inspector Fuzz
Veteran
Location: My own private Idaho.

The truth hurts.

GO STEVE!!!
Clip clp, clip clop, clip clop, I here Lou-Lou approaching on his high horse.

I love Pat Buchannan. I wish he were President. I agree with him on every issue. He is the only person left in the media who is not a coward and willig to speak his mind.
Any decent person, who has made their own way, white or black, agrees with Pat's article.
Tiem to forget the LONG GONE past and appreciate the present.
JEFF

Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours
05-08-2008 05:35 PM
 
 
Topher
Senior Heliman
Location: Grosse Ile, Michigan

Im going to buy Patrick Buchanan a beer

Get a life? How the hell do you fly a life?
05-08-2008 05:51 PM
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TwistedRotor
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Location: Tulsa, OK- USA

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Second, no government anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions of dollars have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid,
Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

WOW!! This makes it sound like the only people that use or require these services are black. People that are handicapped or disabled use some of these services not just the poor or low income.

Where the hell did this come from? A white supremacist rally?

The helicopter is a machine trying to commit suicide,our job is convincing her to fly...
05-08-2008 05:54 PM
 
 
Avropilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Nashville, Tennessee

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Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

Nope. But were dam sure getting blamed for it.
05-08-2008 06:47 PM
 
 
umdpru
Key Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

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Where the hell did this come from? A white supremacist rally?

No, it's the god damned truth. You are obviously too blind to see it.
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WOW!! This makes it sound like the only people that use or require these services are black. People that are handicapped or disabled use some of these services not just the poor or low income.


You tell me what the demographics read like with respect to these types of handouts...

You've stuck your foot in your mouth.

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Nope. But were dam sure getting blamed for it.

That's because Democrats like to blame everyone else but themselves for their failures!
05-08-2008 07:12 PM
 
 
Rob_T
Elite Veteran
Location: Tualatin, OR - USA

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Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

There is apparently a very large gap between hearing and listening.

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First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of
freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Anyone who can post this cr@p and not feel embarrassed to have their name beside it is so far from understanding the words "white supremacist" they probably accidentally attended the rally while thinking it was just a meeting with other right minded friends.


Rob
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05-08-2008 07:41 PM
 
 
Pistol_Pete
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Location: Tampa Bay non-Buccaneer

divide et impera strikes again.

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we need to have a conversation about race in America

everyone repeat after me...there is only one race in this planet.



****

ding ding ding...ladieeeeessssss and gentlemaaaaannnnn


in the blue corner...wearing the melanin deficient birthday suit, with over 200 years of kicking ass and only 1 lost AND determined to segregate and divide until all is conquereeeeeeeeeeeed regardless of the consequences to its people...weighting in at a whoping 518 TRILLION dollars deficit and with a new SELF given nickame... JOHN - "the future monorityyyyy" - DOE

aaaaaaannnnndddddd

in the red corner...sponsored by trillions of dollars spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid,
Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs and....NOT in the melanin deficient birthday suit and weighting in at an average of 3 thousand in the hole...JOHN - "the ___________" - SMITH


I reckon some of ya'll have some fun and fill in the blank...you know you want to.



<><>...the lunatic is in my head...<><>
05-08-2008 08:16 PM
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MPA
Elite Veteran
Location: Australia

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Ha... wat a joke that is......you had segregation till the late 60s, and decent white godfearing folk thought the blackfella was a lower form of life, and prolly still do.........

Surprised to see that from you Dick.

I lived in Perth (where you live) for 2 years in 1980's
I was surpsied on my first trip in the city of Perth to see the signs above the doors of Pinball parlours that stated clearly
"NO BLACKS"

And then I was waiting at a Taxi rank behind some Aborginals, a few taxis arrives and the first on the cab rank opens the door and tells the Aborgines to f.ck off and waves us to get in.
We went to the cab behind him and got in it instead, not interested in that crap.

Perth was the only place I know of in Aus that had black segregation in Australia in the form of signs on the doors of businesses..
05-08-2008 08:22 PM
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TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

I totally agree with a two-way conversation between whites and minorities... My concern regarding an "open forum" is that there is undoubtedly going to be a LOT of pent up anger coming from both sides, and a discussion designed to simply open lines of communication may end up turning into a very hostile and downright violent situation.

I myself am a minority and am also attending business school. That being said, I am taking a management course focused on diversity (mandatory course for my major), and I think it's an absolute joke.

Yes there's racism out there, and yes I've experienced it first hand.... numerous times.... from WHITE PEOPLE... But at the same time, I don't let those few encounters with racists hold me back, nor do I allow those few people ruin my opinion of white people. I see individuals for WHO they are, not WHAT they are. These days I see just as much racism coming from minorities as I do from white people.

I grew up in a predominantly white community and have had white friends all my life. I have also seen how the Asian kids stick together, the black kids stick together, etc... I can't tell you how many times I've been ridiculed for being the Asian kid that hung out with the white kids... All I could ever say in response was, "And YOU bitch about racism??" Talk about twisted logic...

Here in America, people focus too much on what sets them apart from others... Sure, we celebrate Independence Day, but that is a celebration of the day the United States officially separated from England. Not enough people ever celebrate the fact that although they may have come from different roots, they are all here for the same basic reason: to be a part of the best country in the world.

The single defining factor in the fate of the United States can be summed up with this simple phrase: UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.
05-09-2008 12:34 AM
 
 
umdpru
Key Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

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I myself am a minority and am also attending business school. That being said, I am taking a management course focused on diversity (mandatory course for my major), and I think it's an absolute joke.

Encouraging diversity is the aim of most big corporations now.

Inspector Fuzz once brought up a good point in another thread...

He brougth up Native Americans who lacked a common language and culture. They were wiped out because they could only fight each other and the white man instead of coming together to defeat a common enemy.

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Yes there's racism out there, and yes I've experienced it first hand.... numerous times.... from WHITE PEOPLE... But at the same time, I don't let those few encounters with racists hold me back, nor do I allow those few people ruin my opinion of white people. I see individuals for WHO they are, not WHAT they are. These days I see just as much racism coming from minorities as I do from white people.


I was attacked at a local swimming hole by a bunch of black kids from a local baptist church. I was 10 at the time. They were 15 and older. They chased me down in the water and smashed handfuls full of sand into my eyes and mouth.

That definitely wasn't because I was white and they were all black right?

My point is racism is not just white against minorities. It goes both ways! No matter how much some crackhead idiots on here like to believe that only white people are racist!!

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Here in America, people focus too much on what sets them apart from others... Sure, we celebrate Independence Day, but that is a celebration of the day the United States officially separated from England. Not enough people ever celebrate the fact that although they may have come from different roots, they are all here for the same basic reason: to be a part of the best country in the world

and it all starts at the top with the way our legal system is. Democrats and Republicans commit many acts of politcal racism towards each other every day. They tear this country apart and they love it! all for their own selfish reasons!!!
05-09-2008 01:18 AM
 
 
#55
Senior Heliman
Location: hmmmm....

"Learn2fly"

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#55 I would NOT PISS on you if you were on FIRE!!!




that's a real nice thing to say to someone that will be taking bullets for your dumb A$s.


and by the way........oh PLEASE tell me that what I typed was inacurate.

your soo F*KED in the head that the only thing you understand is what you have been brain-washed to belive...









you want some MORE HARD CORE TRUTH......... ask me how many African American's I have seen in flight-school......


I'll give you a hint.......it rymes with ZERO

Crusader28
05-09-2008 05:26 AM
 
 
dick smith
Senior Heliman
Location: perth

I should have added in my last post that we in Australia did not do the aboriginals any favours either, but that statement i highlighted does read like it came from a clan meeting.............

MPA, are you sure you didnt have a few beers wen you think you saw that sign. Even in the 80s, we had moved on from that, and it wood not have been tolerated
05-09-2008 11:18 AM
 
 
Learn to Fly
Key Veteran
Location: Yalesville Connecticut

#55 PLEASE CATCH A BULLET!!!!! PLEASE!!!!

I will like you MUCH better.

I hope we do meet up one day. I will spit in your face. I dont care who you are or who you think you are...


Jeff
Believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see...
05-09-2008 11:47 AM
 
 
SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

#55, I want to thank you for what you are doing for our country. If it weren't for people like you, this country would cease to exist with no defence at all. The terrorists and others would overrun us over night.

Learn to Fly, I suggest you learn to be a decent human being for a change and learn to respect those that are puting their lives on the line to defend your sorry ass. Better yet, go down and enlist in the service of your choice, so you too can learn what it's really like to be a real American.

SteveH
Magnum Fuel
AMA76186
05-09-2008 12:41 PM
 
 
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