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e-E-Flite Blade CP CX 400-3D > Blade 400 3D what u found more stable Blade400 or Trex 450?
 
 
Mashiur Rahman
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto,Ontario,Cana da

Guys,,,
Very simple ques what u found more stable trex450 or EFL Blade400? I heard EFL400 has larger blade than trex450 could be more stable for that though. However I fly Trex450 with Logitech gyro nice performance but,,,,can't compare with ur EFL400.If u know something.......

All's well that ends well
05-01-2008 05:45 AM
 
 
zaw
Senior Heliman
Location: Lebanon, NH - USA

Stable is all about handle your STICKS!

Raptor 90 is More stable.

BCP+CP2 mix Separates BL, DD-tail, HH //\\ HBK2 JGF 400 11T //\\ Friend's B400
05-01-2008 05:48 AM
 
 
Mashiur Rahman
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto,Ontario,Cana da

No sometimes depends on blade size,gyro as well as how u set it up. But if both comparitively has same config then........?

All's well that ends well
05-01-2008 06:34 AM
 
 
tutelar-rc
Veteran
Location: Nobleton, Ontario - Canada

I don't have either, but I can't believe that anyone (including the best flyers out there) could actually tell the difference between the two - especially if they are both properly set up.

Set up and stick ability will make the worst heli look great in a hover.

I agree with zaw - Raptor 90 is more stable.
05-01-2008 12:49 PM
 
 
Mashiur Rahman
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto,Ontario,Cana da

Ok then how u guys like ur EFL400? is that trouble free very smooth heli. Although I don't own that but curious to know abt it.

All's well that ends well
05-02-2008 12:50 AM
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

Mashiur Rahman -

I have both - My TRex 450SE definitely flys better and is more stable as far as I'm concerned. However, it also cost about $500-550 more when you include Futaba 401 gyro/9650 servo combo, Hitec HS65MG cyclic servos and radio gear. My current 450SE would cost $647 (priced through GrandRC today) if you bought my setup. You also have to throw in the cost for a transmitter, and battery and charger, which come with the Blade 400.

Basing the question on total cost, Does it fly (or stable) 2 or 2 1/2 times better than the Blade 400?? - Personally, I don't think so, but it depends on your skill level. My 450SE has a lot less slop in the head, but I think its unfair to compare a metal head vs an all plastic head.

Overall, I think the Blade 400 is a good value for the money! You can always upgrade it, as other Blade 400 owners have done, or use that money to buy a 2nd heli (TRex 450, 600N or E or whatever direction you want to go in this hobby) and keep the 400 stock (My 400 is staying stock).

Also, the cost of the "same crash" repair is about 1/2 as much (or less) for the Blade 400 vs the 450SE. I wish I didn't know this answer

JB

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I don't have either, but I can't believe that anyone (including the best flyers out there) could actually tell the difference between the two - especially if they are both properly set up.

Set up and stick ability will make the worst heli look great in a hover.

tutelar-rc-

Try flying both "setup correctly" and I think you will change your answer above.
05-02-2008 04:10 PM
 
 
speeddemon370
Senior Heliman
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

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I heard EFL400 has larger blade than trex450

They're both the same size (325mm)

I have a both, the 450sev2 is unflown but I've flown my father in law's quite a bit and have racked up alot of hours on the blade. Hmmmmmm, they're definately "different" in the overall feel of the heli but if I had to make a call I don't think I could say one was more stable than the next. I think this is going to be more of an "opinion" type thread than fact. There is just no way to guage this type of information other than "feel" and pilot preference. The only reason I mention this is because you're going to get alot of strong opinions from people. Be sure to question thier motives and reason for said opinions. Many people will lie to your face just because of brand loyalty. Or they'll blatantly tell you thiers is the best but have absolutely no experience on anything else and nothing to compare it to.

I'm interested to see what the "collective mind" comes up with.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
05-02-2008 04:42 PM
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JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

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Many people will lie to your face just because of brand loyalty.

Very strong statement there - I sure hope it's not directed at my post above - check out my Fleet in my profile for my "loyalties"!!!!

Hopefully the people who give "opinions" are basing them on experience with both helis!!

JB
05-02-2008 05:09 PM
 
 
Mashiur Rahman
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto,Ontario,Cana da

JB642,
Thanks for ur comprehensive reply. I have Trex450SA I'm ok with it the gyro Logitech I think the best gyro same as or could be even better than 401. I don't think none of them is bad as long as they got good gyro mounted & properly trimmed. Maybe that's all abt it.
In future I'd buy a CCPM coaxial which would fulfil my desire of extreme stable flight now just wait & wait that's all.

All's well that ends well
05-02-2008 11:42 PM
 
 
speeddemon370
Senior Heliman
Location: Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

It's not directed at anyone. It has nothing to do with what was said or anything that will be said. Merely a generalization of what to watch out for. If I did offend anyone I sincerely appoligize.

with 2 ears and 1 mouth you should listen twice as much as you talk
05-03-2008 12:17 AM
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JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

SpeedDemon -

I appreciate the fact that it's a generalization -

The Blade 400 and the TRex are different birds and I like flying both!!

JB
05-03-2008 01:00 AM
 
 
madman22
Senior Heliman
Location: Alexandria Louisiana

i have put a lot of flights on both these babys. when i first purchased the blade i would say it was somewhat less stable. actually i can say it felt a little less locked in than the trex. well i logged quite some time on her and eventually put the bird in. after th ecrash i switched servos to the same ones as my trex. wow what a diff. this thing flies like a mini vibe90. it is just as "locked in" as my trex was and also my vibe. so yeah its not completely loose as a goose out of box. but then again what is? with the addition of good servos, it is an excellent performer. $470.00 for a great bird with very capable tx,and $ 70.00 for really good servos. $540 bucks aint no bad deal for this choppa. i would reccoment this to anyone.

how far away can it get? oh that far huh?
05-03-2008 05:16 PM
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

I guess I got a great price locally for my Blade 400 - $399.95 !!

Madman - What servos did you use as replacements? Thanks.

JB
05-03-2008 10:04 PM
 
 
madman22
Senior Heliman
Location: Alexandria Louisiana

wow man you got an awsome deal.i used hitec hs56 with karbonite gears. make you wanna slap yo mamma.really that good. also today i tried a bit o ap. used rubber bands to attach a digital cam, just to see about weight. flew fine and hovered for about 8 minutes with weight.

how far away can it get? oh that far huh?
05-04-2008 01:41 AM
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

Thanks Madman - I have HS56s in my MX400. I'll keep that in mind if I need to replace any on the 400. Did they fit in without any modding of frame?

JB
05-04-2008 03:17 AM
 
 
madman22
Senior Heliman
Location: Alexandria Louisiana

yeah man they fit perfectly in the frame. you have to mount the balls on the inside of control arms though,hs56 is a little talller than ds75. and they mount with two screws instead of one. 30 minutes max.

how far away can it get? oh that far huh?
05-04-2008 03:22 PM
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

Thanks MadMan

JB
05-05-2008 02:08 AM
 
 
dravengary
Heliman
Location: Mayview Missouri

JB that is what my local shop sells them for to I thought I was the only lucky one

Outside Mastering the precise 3d maneuver called the Yard Dart
05-05-2008 03:49 AM
 
 
clamman
New Heliman
Location: bayville ny

madman what servo and gryo are you using for the tail ? i have HS-65HB and stock tail gryo and servo
05-05-2008 04:28 AM
 
 
Mashiur Rahman
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto,Ontario,Cana da

U guys should change the stock gyro to Logitech or 401,,,,I think that's how u can make ur heli super stable,,,brand doesn't matter. Ofcourse a good set up is obligatory.

All's well that ends well
05-08-2008 05:16 AM
 
 
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