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Gasser Model RC Helicopters > For Sale Vario Benzin Gasser

Brazuca

Heliman - Location: layton,Utah - USA -

I am selling my nice Vario Benzin Trainer it is designed for the 23 cc Zenoah engine. This engine has been specially modified to suit the Vario Benzin Trainer and this is gasoline powered not “Nitro”. The engine produces its maximum power at a speed of around 9,500 - 10,500 rpm. Fuel required is an 2cycle fuel/oil mixture of 40:1 The gasoline engine features an integrated pull starter and cooling fan, which draws air over the cylinder head for efficient cooling.
It has lots of aluminum aftermarket parts from the nose to the tail, it has a Spektrum 7 channel receiver, 401 Gyro and Futaba S9001 servos all around, plus a K&N air Filter .
It is a beautiful machine very good for aerial photography and ideal for a scale ship.
I hate to let it go but I need money and I got 5 other helicopters.
Call me anytime if you have any questions my # 801-920-6139 ask for Fabio . Asking price $1500.00

PS. If you want or need more pictures just email or call me. I have more heli's for sale. I have some trex 450 with an EC-135 fuselage installed. Also have a raptor .50 brand new never flown complete electronics, gyro, OS hyper .50, Align tuned pipe. All brand new never flown.

SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD.................

THANKS TO Mark Campbell Have fun with it!!!!!

04-29-2008 08:12 PM

maxturbine
Senior Heliman
Location: Snohomish,WA

I am not sure if you are aware of this, but it is not a Vario helicopter.

This is made by air star and is a copy of the Benzin and in some cases different machined items. air star used many Vario items as they were mixing and matching parts in the early days.

A true Vario never had purple frames or a metal swash plate guide.

If it was a real Vario I would be interested in it.

Best of luck

Ralph

04-30-2008 03:53 AM

Dimitris76
Heliman
Location: Borås, Sweden

So do all these metal upgrades make the copy better than the real thing?

Dimitris

04-30-2008 10:24 PM

rcadd1ct
Elite Veteran
Location: Richardson, Texas

No.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!

04-30-2008 11:28 PM

SkyCam Productions
Senior Heliman
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana USA

Does this have a belt tail drive?

SkyCam Productions

05-01-2008 12:17 AM

rcadd1ct
Elite Veteran
Location: Richardson, Texas

I can see the red claw coupler. It looks to be a TT tail drive.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!

05-01-2008 12:36 AM

xcellgasman101
Elite Veteran
Location: WOODWARD, OKLA....

Yep,, torque tube drive,,,,XGM/VGM

John Crotts
www.soonerhelicamproductions.com

05-01-2008 12:37 AM

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Brazuca
Heliman
Location: layton,Utah - USA

More Info

Hire there and thanks for your Post.
No it did not have bell drive, and Yes all the upgrates that I put on it is from plastic to metal the washout from Vario is plastic this is metal from Air Star International and it works more precisely.
I’m not so sure now, well I purchase this helicopter from a local guy here in Utah and came with Vario Benzin manual, but I did have some modification done to it, just like you talk about it I got parts from Josef Joebstl (air star International) But I do believe that the Helicopter it is a Vario, because the ball bearing and all the axes diameter match the Vario specifications but like you said the washout the tail system and the metal swash plate guide it is from air star International, and the reason I did that is because I spoke with Josef and I find out that they are better parts all along, Also I was having a hard time finding parts I do like this helicopter and fly beautiful now I understand preference and respect that.
But thank you for the info and I will take a closer look to make sure all that, when I send the pictures to Josef he also thinks that it is a Vario.

Thanks again Fabio Souza

05-01-2008 01:10 AM

rcadd1ct
Elite Veteran
Location: Richardson, Texas

Josef used to be the vario importer.

Joe Howard imports Vario now.

Search for the reasons.

This might be why Josef says that it is a vario, though.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!

05-01-2008 02:18 AM

Brazuca
Heliman
Location: layton,Utah - USA

Thanks

Well either way if it is a Vario or Air Star, still a great helicopter, I got the manual and all the original parts, I’m self employed and really hurt financially that’s the only reason I’m selling. One of my friends here in Utah Brian Bennett help me setup and there is nothing wrong with this bird. Thanks for all you guy’s info, but now my family it’s more important than my toys and I got too much of that. So If you don’t care of the brand and just want to have some fun there you go. Either way you will be able to find parts and fly. Anyway make me an offer and take home.

05-01-2008 04:27 AM

rcadd1ct
Elite Veteran
Location: Richardson, Texas

Once you get the parts installed and everything line up, they do fly great!

Good luck with the sale. I'm sorry you have to part with it.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!

05-01-2008 04:46 AM

Surri
Heliman
Location: Nidwalden, Switzerland

air star

I knwo air star has a history....do we not all have a history somehowe.

Please allow me to state that the air star gasser is a great product and Josef and his team optimized shortcommings of the original design. I'm flying an air stare gasser for over two years now without any difficulties, whereas one chap on our field lost his Vario Benziner because of a head failure (a plastic part was failing). And by the way, it's very unpleasant if a rotor blade makes a fly-by of your head !

So consider a quality product over "plastic". By the way and just to be very clear, proper maintenance, setup and careful checking of the heli prior each flight.

Cheers - Surri

05-01-2008 07:45 AM

bcook01
Senior Heliman
Location: central ontario

Surri

one chap on our field lost his Vario Benziner because of a head failure (a plastic part was failing). And by the way, it's very unpleasant if a rotor blade makes a fly-by of your head !

Blade grips or hubs do not partially fail! I have never heard of a Vario blade grips or hub assembly coming apart. The exception could be overspeeding causing failure.

There are many composite hub assemblies in commercial aircraft such as the Eurocopter AS355 TwinStar / Ecureuil 2 (AS555 Fennec}; Three-blade hingeless main rotor, Starflex glass-fiber/carbon-fiber hub.

There are advanages to composite parts over billeted machined aluminum. Further can be found at:
http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Rotorhead.html. Just as a start compare their weight.

Do you have any idea on the amount of composite material used in new full scale aircraft?

Boeing's experience confirms a trend in increased use of composites. The 747, developed in the 1960s, had only 1 percent composites. That nudged up to 3 percent with the 757 and 767 planes of the 1980s and 11 percent on the 777 of the early 1990s. But the 787 Dreamliner, which has yet to fly, has fully half of its airframe materials using composites

I do not consider airstair has improved the product unless color is an important criteria. It is one thing to make and sell an improved part or parts as opposed to copying an entire design and selling it as a Vario Benzine - less documentation.

Perhaps you should be discussing ethics as opposed to unreliable heresay information. Love to hear more about your "chap" at your field.

Bob

You cannot afford to learn by your own mistakes.

05-01-2008 01:26 PM

Brazuca
Heliman
Location: layton,Utah - USA

It fly great!!!

The parts that I put on it works very well, this is ready the fly helicopter you don’t have to put anything else just your touch as far how aggressive you like to fly. I respect Air Star and become friends with Josef. Like very much the products that he has to offer, I wish I can afford to keep this heli, trust me I’m not very happy about having to sale this bird.

05-01-2008 08:23 PM

Surri
Heliman
Location: Nidwalden, Switzerland

Dear Bob

I appreciate your comments and thoughts.

Cheers - Surri
FAA DER and ATPL

05-01-2008 08:55 PM

Brazuca
Heliman
Location: layton,Utah - USA

It's on ebay now

Hey Guys just put on ebay for auction, so if you are interesting please place a bid!!!

06-10-2008 05:19 AM

CJames
Key Veteran
Location: Back in KC

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I respect Air Star and become friends with Josef. Like very much the products that he has to offer, I wish I can afford to keep this heli, trust me I’m not very happy about having to sale this bird.

I thought you didn't know if it was a REAL Vario or not like you claimed in your first post??

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I am selling my nice Vario Benzin Trainer

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I’m not so sure now, well I purchase this helicopter from a local guy here in Utah and came with Vario Benzin manual,

I see on ebay you are passing it off as a genuine Vario product with no mention of air star, I thought you were friends??

Anyone want a pet rabbit?.............I found him on the road dead and I'm tired of hugging him

06-11-2008 08:07 PM

Brazuca
Heliman
Location: layton,Utah - USA

It is done

It is a Vario!! And I didn't know when that first guy said that maybe an Air star, but I check it and I was right. But really don’t matter it is sold and that person that bought also know that is in fact a Vario it’s going on Apache fuselage and I’m very happy that someone is going to have fun and put this bird on the air. I wasn’t trying to fool anyone and that’s what matter to me. Now the heli has some parts from Air Star and I had to do some modification to make it fit, for example this Gold Ring around the washout the shaft from Vario are skinner than Mongoose and there you go, that just put a end on this discussion about being a Air Star. I respect air star and love their products and will continuo to purchase from then.
But thanks for your comment and thy not to judge people, that was rude!!

06-13-2008 02:51 AM

Brazuca
Heliman
Location: layton,Utah - USA

here that picture

here it is the Gold ring