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RJX Hobby Hurrican 50 - Xtreme 50 > torque tube
 
 
richo
New Heliman
Location: Oz

Does anyone know if there is any plans for a torque tube for the x50 in the near future?

Cheers Richo
04-27-2008 11:26 PM
 
 
Foxden
Key Veteran
Location: Port Charlotte, FL. USA

Richo,

I'm not aware of any, but the owner of RJX does read the forum so if there is enough interest who knows.

Clyde Fox
Port Charlotte FL
RJX of USA Field Rep
Team Rotorworkz
Morgan Fuel Rep
04-28-2008 02:57 AM
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RjX of USA
Senior Heliman
Location: IL

Torq Tube

There is no TT for the X50 at this time.

Rusty Howard rjxofusa@myway.com
04-28-2008 04:31 AM
 
 
holzback
Senior Heliman
Location: Terre Haute IN United States

i dont think a 50 is big enough for it to really matter. they get to be more of a pain in time anyway. i don think the tt drive helps enough to make it worth while. i flew both on the smae trex 600 and they both pretty much felt the same. i did autos, piroflips, piro funnels, and tossed it around and felt like they both worked well.
04-28-2008 01:38 PM
 
 
TheOne1
New Heliman
Location: camarillo

Torque Tube

This is also what I've been patiently waiting for. I realized that not everybody share the same preferrences, but it would be realy nice to have the option of bolting a torque tube into this heli...there's a few including myself where I fly who also would like to install a torque tube into there X50. I guess the other option is try to make the TT from Vibe50 work on X50...
05-21-2008 05:09 AM
 
 
alfred
Senior Heliman
Location: Australia, New South Wales, Mid North Coast

My Extreme50 is ordered, but I agree.
My preference is torque tube as all My MA helies are.
Even that my belt drive works well on my S50SE, the setting up can be a pain trying to get the right tension.
Too tight and you stuff the bearings, too loose and you get belt slapping. also static discharge can become an issue.

Torque tube:
Shove the boom in all the way, stick a bit of sticky tape at the entrance where the boom goes into the holder at the front.
Pull back 1~2 millimeter....done.
If it took you more then 30 seconds, then you have fallen asleep.....wake up!!!
05-21-2008 10:27 AM
 
 
alfred
Senior Heliman
Location: Australia, New South Wales, Mid North Coast

Bump

Torque tube kit please

Not all of us are friends for belt drives.
So far from what I have read, there are issues with the belt system.
As the belt doesn't have a idler wheel at the tail pulley, it seems that others are either getting beltslapping
or
they tighten the belt up to the point that the tail gear box bearings wear out prematurely.

A CF torque tube with middle bearings, delrin couplers at both ends, and I will be your new best friend
05-27-2008 10:23 AM
 
 
ez2bgman
Elite Veteran
Location: N'awlins, LA

Quote 
So far from what I have read, there are issues with the belt system.

I have not read many issues with the belt system. I am using the Spartan DS760 gyro and it holds and stops the tail like no other gyro that I have flown. The stops can be pretty hard and I have not noticed the belt slipping or slapping. Many helis use a belt driven tail without issue. I seriously doubt that most could tell the difference between a TT and belt on a 50. Now if RJX offers a TT as an option than that would be nice for those that want it. But a TT is definitely not needed, IMO.

Gary
RJX of USA
Magnum Fuels
SwitchGlo
>Hot Girlz in da gallery<
05-27-2008 08:15 PM
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Foxden
Key Veteran
Location: Port Charlotte, FL. USA

Steven has been flying the Xtreme longer than anyone in the US and we haven't had any issues with the belt system, in fact since last August we are still on the original belt. I haven't heard of any belt issues.

Clyde Fox
Port Charlotte FL
RJX of USA Field Rep
Team Rotorworkz
Morgan Fuel Rep
05-27-2008 11:58 PM
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alfred
Senior Heliman
Location: Australia, New South Wales, Mid North Coast

Quote 
Now if RJX offers a TT as an option than that would be nice for those that want it. But a TT is definitely not needed, IMO.

That's fine with me.
I am not sure if the demand is out there, but before deciding to buy the Extreme50, I was going to get the Align Pro, as it comes with a TT drive.
I have both, TT and MA helies.
The MA's never had any issues with tail drives at all (at least not for me).
One of my TT's, the R50SE also never had an issue with it's belt system.
But the R30 had given me grieve from day1. Static discharge which played havoc with the gyro. Belt just a touch too tight and you could feel the drag on the system.
Belt a bit too loose and you would get belt slapping and increased static discharge issues.

With a TT drive and assuming it's fairly well engineered, none of the above are an issue.
It would just be a nice option to have, maybe down the road a bit?
05-29-2008 04:47 PM
 
 
AirMail
New Heliman
Location: Earth

As an option yes, but I donīt like TT, as one little bump during an auto and you need to replace the hole thing... Belt rocks, no issues with it, and you donīt need to run it that damn tight either.
That will consume alot of power and wear thoose tail bearings fast.
05-30-2008 10:16 AM
 
 
Foxden
Key Veteran
Location: Port Charlotte, FL. USA

You want a little secret that was shown to me last summer by a very good friend...



Okay here goes, he had a can of CRC silicone and sprayed his tail belt on his 450 trex, it made the tail pretty much drag free and the belts started to last much longer, so we decided to try it on our Hurrican and Xtreme 50 belts and guess what, after spraying the belt it decreased the drag and increased how many revolution you get when you free spin the blades, I give the belts a quick spray every few months and still running the original belt since last August.

We also use this on the dampers, we soak the damper in a cup with the silicone, install them and then apply some triflow grease or similar to the inside of the damper and spindle, amazing the low speed head wobble is GONE for some reason the CRC silicone spray impregates the damper rubber and keeps the grease in place much longer, last check we had 20+ flights and the dampers were still nice and free.

Clyde Fox
Port Charlotte FL
RJX of USA Field Rep
Team Rotorworkz
Morgan Fuel Rep
05-30-2008 01:03 PM
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Hotwings
Key Veteran
Location: Florida, Port Charlotte and West Palm Bch.

Hey Clyde, thanks for calling me a good friend!!
Where is my can of silicon lube????
Just kidding, Ron

Please cancel my clearance, I have the field in sight.
05-30-2008 01:30 PM
 
 
SteveH
rrProfessor
Location: Texas

I used to fly helicopters that were exclusively torque tube driven tails, and thought that was the only way to go. Then, I started flying helis with belts, and quite honestly, I cannot tell the difference. Yes, the tention has to be set, but once you learn how to do it, not a biggie. The belt system is definately cheaper, simpler, and easier, IMHO.

SteveH
Magnum Fuel
AMA76186
05-30-2008 01:45 PM
 
 
TheOne1
New Heliman
Location: camarillo

Torque Tube

CRC spray does not address the Torque Tube request, I understand how it can help the belt drive and the pros and cons between the two. All I wanted to find out is; does RJX HOBBY have a plan on making a TT as an option for those who are interested. I've flown both TT and belt system, with my limited flying skills I'm also not able to tell the difference. As I mentioned before this is a matter of prefference and all I'm looking for is an answer whether RJX has a plan to make TT or not. I'm not interested in finding out about the secret can of CRC spray or any other trick to make the drive belt run super smooth....

Thanks,
05-31-2008 05:58 AM
 
 
RjX of USA
Senior Heliman
Location: IL

TT

there is no plan at this time, although it has been talked about in the past, to answer your question"Does RjX plan on a TT for the X50?"
NO! Not at this time. This is not to say we won't ever but we aren't at this moment.

Rusty Howard rjxofusa@myway.com
05-31-2008 08:13 AM
 
 
TheOne1
New Heliman
Location: camarillo

Torque Tube

Thank you for the reply that is all I wanted to know. Knowing this will help ease my decisions in the near future, of course this is dependent on how far my wallet will allow me to go..

I just recently been flying my X-50, I was very impressed with it's flying characteristics. I liked the design of this heli main reason why I purchased one (besides the belt drive system) again this is just my personal preferrence, I'm not going to get into the technicalities in between two system because I don't posses nor have the knowledge for it...


Thanks,
TheOne
05-31-2008 04:35 PM
 
 
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