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jimco
Senior Heliman
Location: east texas

Well, boys, Ain't it amazing that George Herbert Walker Bushs' Dad, financed Adolph in the beginning of WW2.
That the Zionist Jews were financing Adolph.
That we kept all of the info that we had, about Japan, and the potential attack on Pearl Harbor, from the Admirals and Generals in Hawaii.
Funny how we moved the Pacific fleet to Pearl Harbor, just before the attack.
Life is so full of "Mysteries"
Can you spell "False Flag"
Oh well, This is just a "Toy Heli Forum" Guess you can't expect too much in the way of Historic Knowledge>

Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again

05-02-2008 03:21 AM

Torkroll
Senior Heliman
Location: Bakersfield Ca

If you pay 4.15 a gallon for gas how much is taxes?
Isn't it over 3.50 in taxes?

There is a state tax that is about 1.80 and another tax that is variable near 1.80 plus there is sale tax.

Anyone have a reference to the exact numbers?

I think the refined fuel is less than $1.

Anyone who says it's a small world never tried to walk to Zimbabwe.
Jerry

05-02-2008 04:23 AM

RonHill
Veteran
Location: ..

440GTX

They can do that since they EXPORT oil, the US does not have that ability. The only countries that can afford to do that are oil producing ones

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Not True Ron. Canada is an oil producing country . It has very large oil and gas fields. It Exports 93,000 barrells of oil per day to the US. ( I think thats is the number ) Why are we paying $ 4.50 at the pumps ? S-C-R-E-W-E-D by Oil companies and the goverment Oil companies are recording BILLIONS in profits this year Encana 6.5 Billion

It is *totally* true. Your Country *could* do it, but CHOOSES not to do it. The US could not do it since we import most of our oil.

From CIA World Fact Book:

Canada

Oil - production:
3.092 million bbl/day (2005)
Oil - consumption:
2.29 million bbl/day (2005)
Oil - exports:
2.274 million bbl/day (2004)
Oil - imports:
1.185 million bbl/day (2004)

Your Country could very well subsidize the cost to its citizens...It has made the choice not to do that. And I think that is a wise choice since every subsidized country has ever increasing demand and high pollution rates.

05-02-2008 04:25 AM

darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

1stPlace

Unfortunately, you are one of the Americans who likes to think you saved the world and I guess there is no convincing you different. A paragon of virtue!

You believe your act of self preservation should be viewed as an act of help by us, well sorry, NO.

Do you hear us saying we helped you in WWII. Perhaps we should, for we fought the war long and hard before you even got off your butts to fight. We had the job nearly done prior to your involvement and we lost way more good men than you did. So perhaps you should thank us for protecting you against the threat and keeping it from your shores for 4 years. Perhaps it was us who saved your lazy asses

Of course, maybe your nation was not too ready to fight an enemy who had more than bowes and arrows and bare back horses, a victory I'm sure you are proud of also

You did try a war on your own once, but those little farmers with sticks and stones sent you packing from Vietnam didn't they. This was when they had nothing and you had all the smart weopons, but still lost out. Perhaps smart weopons can never make up the gap for dumb people.

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!

05-02-2008 09:37 AM

Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

That'll get him going

You forgot about Afghanistan and Iraq tho. Shouldn't you mention something about how they financed the Talibans to get them going against the Russians and how that sorry plan backfired?
And something about the motives for entering Iraq?

Supposedly a leftie :-) You're on my list notcom...

05-02-2008 10:17 AM

darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Hi Tintin,

I'm sure deep down, he knows this already, just not prepared to admit it

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!

05-02-2008 11:34 AM

Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Haha, I'm not too sure about that, I've tried to reason with that fella before on this subject, not an easy task.

I think he'd rather go down with all the sails up rather than admitting to anything at all. I mean, it does seem like there is a light on, but he's just not controlling the switch....I'm convinced he believes they saved them ol'injans too when their ancestors fled Europe and plowed thru the good ol'US

He even likes to think they saved us even if they were not here during WWII, heck they wouldn't even have been over here if we hadn't shipped them here...

Supposedly a leftie :-) You're on my list notcom...

05-02-2008 12:12 PM

1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

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That'll get him going

You wish

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I'm sure deep down, he knows this already, just not prepared to admit it

We should have let Europe fall under Nazi rule and stayed home all together. Fuk you, you ungrateful bastard!

Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?

05-02-2008 12:17 PM

1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

Yeah Tin Tin... Tell me, what else do I believe?

Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?

05-02-2008 12:21 PM

darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Yep, I'm sure he would see Afganistan, Mogadishu, Vietnam and Iran in a different light.
Fact is, they faught these wars on their own, with the best weopons against fewer soldier with little or no weopons and still got their asses kicked.

I know of only 2 wars they actually won, the indians.....well natives with no guns vs Americans and good old Mr Gatling........shallow victory and the UK when we had a fraction of the number of forces and it was on their home turf.....no surprise then.

I don't know of them ever having an "away" victory, even when they have been up against such sub standard opposition like mal-nurished farmers whith a few hand tools and an ox. Those guys are just so hard to beat you know

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!

05-02-2008 12:23 PM

darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Here he goes again, devaluing his already week argument further by having to result in swearing at us.

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!

05-02-2008 12:27 PM

Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Well, that is your big problem jumbo (as in last place). You interpret all as being ungrateful that your ancestors took part, which is so far from the truth as you can get. I've been to visit the US cemeteries in Normandie and I have the greatest respect for those that died there.
Just as I have the greatest respect for those of my ancestors that died trying to free our country.

I have walked the beaches of Normandie and Bretagne where the remains of the war is still clearly visible. I have looked at the hole in the roof of my grandparents house where the german bullet that almost killed my aunt is still lodged into the wood from the time when the germans occupied their farm. I have dived wrecks of german ships that were sunk by norwegian resistance fighters.

I don't think any of us are ungrateful that the US participated in the World War, at least I'm not, we just have a big problem seeing it as you being an unselfish saviour of the world. And lately you've really fuk'd up......which probably to a great deal is one of the reason why fuel prices go up....

Supposedly a leftie :-) You're on my list notcom...

05-02-2008 12:54 PM

darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

I too am pleased that American involvement brought WWII to an earlier end and thus reduced the loss of life on all sides.
BUT, I seriously object to the "we saved you, be grateful" tone and the view that we should give thanks for them coming to our rescue. The entry to the war was 4 yrs too late for that. And turning up so late does not merit any glory.
To me, helping is what friends (Allies) do. You help someone by doing something for them when there is nothing in it for yourself. That is the definition of a "selfless" act.
They join a war following a personal attack for personal (selfish) reasons and to save their own asses....period.
This is purely about motive and it was clearly one of self preservation. If the motive was to give help and to protect what was right and just, they would have stood up to fight way earlier.

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!

05-02-2008 01:16 PM

1stPlace
Senior Heliman
Location: Ohio USA

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Here he goes again, devaluing his already week argument further by having to result in swearing at us.

I really con't care what you think about me. You are a closed minded intellectual elitest snob. You have a very skewed views of history and you cannot face the truth. So, I'm done with you.

Cheers

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I don't think any of us are ungrateful that the US participated in the World War, at least I'm not

That's all I was looking for. Thank you.

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we just have a big problem seeing it as you being an unselfish saviour of the world.

Well, that's too bad. Because, in WWII, we were the saviour. We did much more than participate. We ended the war with two bombs, saving the world from Japanese imperialism and Nazi rule. Deal with it.

Now, I'm done with you too Tin Tin... Buh Byeeee

Hat man dir mal ins Gehirn geschissen und vergessen umzuruhren?

05-02-2008 01:16 PM

darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Thank god......he's given up flogging his dead horse........must feel like Vietnam all over

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!

05-02-2008 01:24 PM

Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Oooh, there we go again. I think it might be time to realize your truth is not always the truth.

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That's all I was looking for.

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..we were the saviourS. We did much more than participate

From the last quote it does seem like you were looking for more..

And, yeah, actually the rest of us could just have sat down when you finally arrived, cause you were the saviourS.....I wonder tho, if we had sat down when you finally decided to participate. How were you supposed to get here...I guess as a saviour you would have walked on water? Or do you think maybe someones participation might have helped you getting here???

Supposedly a leftie :-) You're on my list notcom...

05-02-2008 01:42 PM

SSN Pru
Elite Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

Darens,

You do quite a bit of talking dont you?

I find this particular quote from you really really amusing!

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You entered a war which was close to an end purely because it affected you at the point when the Japanese attacked your country.

Right, you guys were fighting for your lives AND being supplied by the U.S. during the Battle of Britain. I think it's a fair assumption to make that if we had not even sent you war supplies and food that you would not have done quite so well...

The war started in 1939. It ended in 1945. We entered the war in 1941. By my math, I'd say we were involved in the war for over half of it's duration. How can you sit there and try to tell us that it was nearly over when we decided to start sending troops IN ADDITION to the supplies we were already sending to you?

Let's add to the fact that the entire European continent was Nazi occupied...

You claim you almost had them licked? You had them right where you wanted em huh?

If you avoid failure, you also avoid success.

05-02-2008 01:49 PM

SSN Pru
Elite Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

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Of course, maybe your nation was not too ready to fight an enemy who had more than bowes and arrows and bare back horses, a victory I'm sure you are proud of also

Shall we get into the not so illustrious past wars that The British Empire has waged?

If you avoid failure, you also avoid success.

05-02-2008 01:50 PM

darrens
Key Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

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You do quite a bit of talking dont you?

Do you struggle with reason and intellect

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Right, you guys were fighting for your lives AND being supplied by the U.S. during the Battle of Britain. I think it's a fair assumption to make that if we had not even sent you war supplies and food that you would not have done quite so well...

Please forgive us, for we must have forgotten to thank you for allowing us to do trade with you and spend our national wealth on your goods while your economy grew strong. An during this time your country sat back on it's fat asses refusing to fight, growing rich, eating burgers and fries and spectating over a World War just like it was Superbowl week.
I must go and remind my American export customers how grateful they should be for dealing with my business and making me wealthy......I wonder how they would respond??????
While I may like to dispute you level of involvement for "half" the war, lets accept that for the moment. Now there were numerous allied countries in the war other than yourselves. To name but a few, there was The UK, France, Belgium and Italy. That would make your country 1 in 5. That's 20%. But of course, that would be 20% of 50% = 10%.
So assuming you did contribute 10% (disputable) how dare you claim such an inpact on preceedings.
Furthermore and back to the original point in question, this was for your own good.......zero on the philanthropy scale.
You got rich at our expense and saved your own behinds.

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the greatest virtue of wisdom is admitting when you are wrong!

So don't preach.....practice!!!!!!!

He who dies with the most toys is the winner!

05-02-2008 04:43 PM

SSN Pru
Elite Veteran
Location: Massachusetts

I do practice, and you sir, are wrong. to claim that our country only contributed 10% to WWII is outright foolish!

I'm not going to look for the statistics right now but I can tell you with 100% assurance that our country provided the majority of troops, supplies, equipment and money to wage that damned war.

perhaps we should have left you to fend the Nazi's off on your own...

If you avoid failure, you also avoid success.

05-02-2008 05:12 PM

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