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HIROBO X-spec - Freya - Sceadu - Shuttle > ATTENTION: Preliminary CAD Drawings for NEW Hirobo 90
 
 
MRC-Hirobo
Key Veteran
Location: Edison, NJ

Turbulence D3 Information

The most current information on the Turbulence D3 is now available in PDF format in My Gallery in My Files at the bottom of the page.

Pricing has yet to be determined.

Announcement from Hirobo Japan:

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We are pleased to announce you our latest 90 size 3D model "Turbulence D3"

Hirobo spent much time developing and competing in F3C world, with many triumphs in last 20 year period. Unfortunately, our development and entry to the 3D world was slower than expected due to our emphasis and success in F3C side. Since 2007, we started a project to develop a machine dedicated for 3D competition. We won one of the most respected and
popular 3D competition, 3D Masters in 2007.

Like Eagle series is our top model for F3C, we will introduce "Turbulence" line to be our top machine for 3D. With cooperation from 2007 3D Masters champion Dominick Haegele and world level 3D pilots from around the world, we wanted to develop a machine with best performance. This new Turbulence D3 is aimed at competition or expert level 3D flight.

Our first target for this model was to develop a model with latest 3D design combined with affordable pricing, which could replace our Freya line. However, as development and testing went on, we felt if we wanted to sit on top of 3D world as we do for F3C, we should not make any compromise on performance.

There is no plan of replacing Freya line of products with Turbulence series. Turbulence will sit on top of our 3D line of products and we will keep Freya line as it is.

Turbulence D3 will have its first flight at XFC with 2007 3D Masters champion Dominick Haegele and then, return as defending champion to 3D masters 2008. His 2007 machine, with our inside codename "D1" machine, was a combination of plastic standard Freya and prototype 3D head. After our victory, we went on to developing a new frame and other parts. Further testing continued during winter with second generation machine, D2. We are at a final stage of development with third generation machine, D3.

This model is designed in Japan, made in Japan, with Japanese quality as usual, just like any other Hirobo helicopters. We deeply appreciate many 3D pilots from US, from Europe, from elsewhere, for their inputs and extensive tests over a year.

At last we would like to appreciate our customers all over the world for your patience

- Dan G. -
05-13-2008 04:46 PM
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

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Turbulence D3

How embarrassing for them. They misspelled 3D.
05-13-2008 04:55 PM
 
 
racingstripe
Veteran
Location: Sacramento, CA

http://runryder.com/helicopter/gall...rbulence-d3.pdf

andy-
05-13-2008 05:15 PM
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hovernut
Senior Heliman
Location: Fraser Mi

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Turbulence D3

How embarrassing for them. They misspelled 3D.

LMAO
05-13-2008 06:28 PM
 
 
Henrik Engert
Veteran
Location: Cedar Park, TX

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How embarrassing for them. They misspelled 3D

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We are at a final stage of development with third generation machine, D3.

D3 seems to stand for 3rd generation of the new design.

Hirobo XSpec EVO
Futaba 12Z FASST
05-13-2008 06:31 PM
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

could someone tell me, with all these cheaper and cheaper carbon helis, who would still want a plastic Freya or the raptor series? I'm not trying to be insulting, I just want to know. Everyone seems to be flying TRex 600n for a 50 size, and the 700n is going to hit the scene, I can't really see much of a market for a plastic Freya.
05-13-2008 06:49 PM
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

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D3 seems to stand for 3rd generation of the new design

I know. It was a joke.
05-13-2008 08:21 PM
 
 
tadawson
Key Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

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I can't really see much of a market for a plastic Freya.

I dunno . . . I see carbon as mostly a "bling" thing . . . if someone made a heli that flew great that was made out of old soup cans or wood, I'd have no problem with it . . . the material is not necessarily directly related to the flight performance . . . . and cost of repair *is* a factor that weights heavily in favor of the plastics, among other things . . .

- Tim
05-14-2008 02:27 AM
 
 
Brendan78
Heliman
Location: Cronulla, NSW Australia

That new Hirobo looks great!!
05-14-2008 02:33 AM
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

Tim,

It's just that these plastic machines aren't "sexy" anymore. They have their place, but if you try to sell yours demand is really not there. So you understand why I asked about the plastic Freya the way I did? Cheap carbon machines like the TRex 700n and Aurora will probably kill the market for plastic machines. An Freya EVO would be about $650, for $250 more you can get an all carbon Aurora and the price of the 700n will probably be a bit less than $900.

By contrast a top of the range Hirobo Eagle 3 VPUS pipe drive will set you back $3400 which hardly anyone is going to pay for. I knew even before the announcement that from a pricing perspective alone that Hirobo intended this machine to be their top of the range for 3D. It's got too many machined parts on it for it to be cost effective - cheap heli replacement for the plastic Freyas.
05-14-2008 10:33 PM
 
 
kmbeers
Heliman
Location: Delaware

Tim,
I agree with you 1000%. The way a machine flies and its overall value should be the benchmark of how it is judged. Synodontis does have a point though that "sex" sells.

I am considering a 90 size machine this year and I may hold out to see how the Turbulence D3 is finally priced and if there is a reduction in the tried but true Freya with the introduction of the new machine.

kmbeers
05-15-2008 01:17 AM
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

that metal head is a lot of money
the sprag auto hub is also extremely expensive
hirobo swashplates were never cheap, and that's a multi option large one being used in the kit
not to mention all the other metal CNC parts that this machine holds

Even in G10, I would hazard a guess that the machine would be well over $1400 (rough guess)
05-15-2008 01:37 AM
 
 
tadawson
Key Veteran
Location: Lewisville, TX

Having several Hirobo birds, though, I can't ever say that they weren't worth the $$$.

- Tim
05-15-2008 01:44 AM
 
 
cmir2425
Heliman
Location: homestead, fl usa

My two cents on pricing. $1700 to $2000 usd . Remember its the eagle3 of the 3d world as stated by hirobo themselves.
05-15-2008 01:44 AM
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

you forget that the Eagle 3 has A LOT of parts. I mean, A LOT, probably the most of any 90 size heli.

Does anyone know if the reinforcement channels in this heli are made of plastic or are they machined? I can't see them machined, but if they are then that should send the price through the roof.

After looking at it some more, I don't actually like the look of this bird or the narrow frame design, much prefer the Eagle 3.
05-15-2008 10:08 AM
 
 
IAF
Senior Heliman
Location: Israel

Its all in the head!

The head is about 90% of heli flying style and ability. I think using the new SSZ-IV head on EVO 90 is much better choise then to get a new Turbulence D3.

Have a nice day :)
05-15-2008 12:27 PM
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synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

that's the other thing. Why isn't there a plastic version of SSZ-IV? Are they still making the moulds? Probably called FFZ-IV if it does come out in plastic.
05-15-2008 04:59 PM
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

I've not seen any 3D heli sell for much if you hang on to it for any amount of time and I don't think any sell well after the next version is out. I don't look at potential resale value on sport helis. I assume they are going to be losing investments so I go for the one that can hold up and made by a company that will still be around next year.
05-15-2008 06:35 PM
 
 
hhart
Senior Heliman
Location: San Jose, CA

IMO, Evo90 only needs 2 upgrades: newer sytle head/Kasama head and the ccpm conversion. These 2 would pretty much keep the machine on par w/ others
05-15-2008 10:06 PM
 
 
yapjy
Key Veteran
Location: Singapore

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"IMO, Evo90 only needs 2 upgrades: newer sytle head/Kasama head and the ccpm conversion. These 2 would pretty much keep the machine on par w/ others"

I thought so too

I'm making a guess based on how Hirobo introduced the Freya range previously. Hirobo will usually come out with a top heli first, with all the latest technology. Then these technology will filter down to the entry level heli subsequently.
05-16-2008 02:01 AM
 
 
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