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Avant Aurora - EFX - FX > The mystique is gone
 
 
J.D. Wilson
Elite Veteran
Location: Nashville, TN

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GET THE FX OR EFX
I have an FX and love it. But the way things have been going and the way the company is run (or not run as seems to be the case) I could no longer recommend anyone purchase any Avant/CX product. It's a real shame as the FX/EFX are beautiful helicopters and fly like nothing else. How could anyone have faith that parts or even the company itself will be around in the near future? This should have been handled so differently.

- formerly known as "trex600crasher"-
04-26-2008 03:13 AM
 
 
TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

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Futura SE Youngblood was an upgraded version "prototyped" to handle higher loads than previous versions. It was designed for FAI, aerobatics and what was then known as extreme aerobatics. Curtiss Youngblood used this with his extreme aerobatics and that was the forrunner of 3D. Performed nicely, had some head issues requiring some redesign. Diden't happen. Heli is too heavy to be thrown around in chaotic 3D that started couple years later. Initial versions were aerobatic masterpieces and the SE Youngblood was an upgraded version into the extreme aerobatic arena. There were not even fast enough servos then to initiate the kind of accelerated moves done today or even 5-8 years ago. It was and still is one of the smoothest, vibration-free helis out there today.

It's amazing, I worked for Robbe for over 10 years and I don't remember it happening like you described. Back in the day 3D was coined after the term "switchless inverted" by the JR "Wing" magazine and a few other authors. I'm not sure I agree with your version of how the SE version came about as I have a new one right behind me on the shelf that came from the first batch of kits that Curtis re-engineered out of the Futura Gold model. The Futura SE is still lighter than a lot of current 90 size machines and is more than capable of anything that the current crop of machines is doing.

TM

"If you can do it, it ain’t bragging." - Will Rogers
04-26-2008 03:37 AM
 
 
Freyaman
Heliman
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia

So far carbon xtreme has been a good supplier for Avant FX or EFX for me.

But I prefer this FX or EFX due to the combinations with HIROBO parts. As you all probably know that HIROBO is one of the finest helicopter in the market. The precision is unmatched by the other products out there.

In the end, AVANT FX/EFX is the best heli in the market right now. It's expensive, but still it's the best.
04-26-2008 04:11 AM
 
 
lithiumstatic
Senior Heliman
Location: Tyler, Texas

The AVANT is Coming soon!! Yippy!!
04-26-2008 05:04 AM
 
 
Lolly
Heliman
Location: San Diego

"The Futura SE is still lighter than a lot of current 90 size machines and is more than capable of anything that the current crop or machines is doing."

Being a 60 size machine of the early 1990's design, its weight and moments inertia, control leverage, stability, head speed limitation, max blade pitch angle, head design and many other factors would leave it at a severe disadvantage against any of the current 90 size 3D designed machines. It would need a major redesign with many upgrades to slot it into the current crop of 90 size machines. i.e. a new helicopter.

Furthermore, I was not detailing the evolution of the machine, nor do I care to. That is a sidetrack irrelevant to this thread. It's still my favourite aerobatic machine, will outlast many others and that's where this ends.
04-26-2008 05:20 AM
 
 
TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

It may end but the chronology is all wrong. The current crop of 3D rotor heads were first used on the Schluter System 80 helis. The Champion head pre-dates the Avant head by a good many years.

TM

"If you can do it, it ain’t bragging." - Will Rogers
04-26-2008 03:59 PM
 
 
Lolly
Heliman
Location: San Diego

TM

ok thanks for the clarification.

I'm off to fly...
04-26-2008 07:29 PM
 
 
Jim Mahoney
Senior Heliman
Location: San Jose, CA U.S.A.

Quality? Get a Blitz Avro!

Hello All,

If anyone was going to buy a Aurora because of its quality then just buy an Avro. Not even Hirobo can beat the Avro in my book.

TM since you own just about every helicopter ever made - Man check out an Avro - you will not be disappointed!

Happy Flying,
Cherokee Jim Mahoney
04-29-2008 07:03 AM
 
 
ofir
Senior Heliman
Location: tel aviv - israel

Expensive.

You don't mess with the ofir...
04-29-2008 09:28 AM
 
 
Freyaman
Heliman
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia

Agreed, AVRO probably the best now. But unfortunately there are too many people out there who always demanding unreasonable low price with unreasonably good quality.

It's probably Augusto's problem now, since Avant Aurora is too lowly priced compare to what it should be.

I can easily imagining him, being pushed by the vendor's increasing cost.
04-29-2008 10:43 AM
 
 
Jim Mahoney
Senior Heliman
Location: San Jose, CA U.S.A.

Avro Expensive

Yes Expensive - but there is nothing that needs to be replaced to have a top of the line Heli. No upgrades needed or desired.

Happy Flying,
Cherokee Jim Mahoney
04-29-2008 09:28 PM
 
 
Blade_Master1
Veteran
Location: Canada

Just a little expensive about 1800$ just for a pod and boom

Guess I can add that to my wish list along with my Lamborgini and Ducati

JM2C's :)
04-29-2008 10:49 PM
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kirk
Veteran
Location: Thornton, Colorado

Avro's are not $1800, they are $1500. Guys buy Synergys and spend $500 pretty quickly upgrading them with Hyper Performance parts. You can buy metal main and tail grips for MA machines and get close to the $1500 mark as well. The Avro includes everything you would ever need airframe wise (gear ratios for both OS and YS, NICE servo arms for both JR and Futaba, dampners/inserts for 3D and sport flying, a head that is adjustable for any flying style - programable if you want to call it that, quality that is second to none, and great support).

Anyway I just wanted to clarify that the Avro is not $1800 and includes items that you have to pay extra for in the other kits...

Kirk
04-30-2008 03:49 PM
 
 
Blade_Master1
Veteran
Location: Canada

900.00 = 1793.8800
British Pound
Canadian Dollar

1 GBP = 1.9932 CAD
1 CAD = 0.5017 GBP

got this price from
http://www.realraptors.co.uk/shop/i...x&cPath=215_265

Like I said 1800$

JM2C's :)
04-30-2008 04:00 PM
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J.D. Wilson
Elite Veteran
Location: Nashville, TN

only problem with that math is that the Canadian dollar doesn't count! Just meessin with you.

- formerly known as "trex600crasher"-
04-30-2008 04:08 PM
 
 
Blade_Master1
Veteran
Location: Canada

I am sure the Avro 90 is worth every penny
It look like an excellent kit
it's just a little too much $$$ for my wallet

After all I earn Canadian wages


I know your joking JD

900.00 = 1782.0018
British Pound
US Dollar

1 GBP = 1.9800 USD
1 USD = 0.5050 GBP

but theres not much of difference

,

JM2C's :)
04-30-2008 04:15 PM
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Lolly
Heliman
Location: San Diego

Avro from the USA dealer costs $1500.

If you want to buy it from Europe, go ahead and spend the extra money for Euros (or British Pounds) converted to $$ plus a nice hefty S&H

Otherwise buy it in USA for $1,500

Have to say it is one nice heli !
04-30-2008 04:30 PM
 
 
kirk
Veteran
Location: Thornton, Colorado

Where are you getting 900 (GBP) from? The kits are 765.11 (GBP) not 900, I agree that it would be $1800 (USD) if the kit was 900 (GBP) but it is not unless you get hit with some sort of tax that I am not aware of in Canada (which is not Blitz's fault).

The US dealer sells the kit in North America for $1499 (USD)

My only point here is that in North America the kit is $1499 (USD) not $1800 (USD)...

Thanks!!

Kirk
04-30-2008 04:37 PM
 
 
Blade_Master1
Veteran
Location: Canada

look up ^^^^ way up ^^^

I included the link.

when Canadians order from the UK we don't pay duty





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JM2C's :)
04-30-2008 04:48 PM
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kirk
Veteran
Location: Thornton, Colorado

I see sorry for being blind. Please keep in mind that Real Raptors is in the same country as Blitz so they need to charge a tax VAT which is 17.2% I belive.

Anyway if you are in North America and buy one from the US dealer they are $1499 (USD) or 765.11 (GBP) if you want to look at it that way

Thanks!!
Kirk
04-30-2008 04:53 PM
 
 
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