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Radio - JR & Spektrum DSM > DSX9 UK BOYCOTT
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Not by MacGregor, they do not have the facilities. Try contacting JR and see what they suggest.
05-11-2008 08:02 PM
 
 
tim deakin
Senior Heliman
Location: gloucestershire uk

I cant see how you can blame the price on the goverment.As far as i can see the price should be the same as the pcm9x11,there is no reason that it should so much more expencive.
05-11-2008 09:53 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

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As far as i can see the price should be the same as the pcm9x11,there is no reason that it should so much more expencive

Apart from the fact that the CE testing was done in Japan and not in the UK. Cost approx 3 times as much.

Technology for the 2.4 GHz side is from Horizon/Spektrum. Different Software, what a nice way to load the premiums.

So a higher charge on the basic unit means higher Duty & VAT etc.
05-11-2008 11:03 PM
 
 
tim deakin
Senior Heliman
Location: gloucestershire uk

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Apart from the fact that the CE testing was done in Japan and not in the UK.

Now we are getting somewhere!
05-12-2008 12:06 AM
 
 
tim deakin
Senior Heliman
Location: gloucestershire uk

From what I can tell the macgregor dsx9 has no power difference from the one from hong kong.
05-13-2008 05:50 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Tim,

does your Hong Kong sourced DSX9 have a CE label on the rear ?

How did you test the RF output level ?
05-13-2008 06:48 PM
 
 
1275mini
Veteran
Location: Wirral North West U.K.

my 9303 has one

Barry
05-13-2008 08:02 PM
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9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Cheers Barry, yours came from the USA ??
05-13-2008 08:08 PM
 
 
1275mini
Veteran
Location: Wirral North West U.K.

yep !

Barry
05-13-2008 08:21 PM
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9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Is there a brick wall I can go and bang my bloody head against ???
05-13-2008 08:22 PM
 
 
Bond007
Senior Heliman
Location: Leicestershire UK

9387 Ash

I'd give up gracefully if I was you mate

Just been having a look on the OFCOM site

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/...chnical/ofw311/

Taken from the above site;

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Ofcom has the power to take enforement action against people who: cause interference; use inapropriate equipment; and place non-compliant equipment on the UK market. Penalties for breaches of the Wireless Telegraphy regulations range from informal warnings, formal cautions, through to fines and imprisonment.

Makes interesting reading

If your not happy about the price of a UK set, DON'T BUY ONE. SIMPLE.

If you decide to buy from overseas then;

1. You will be deemed as the importer, and if a claim is laid against you, YOU will be held fully responsible.

2. You will not be covered by the BMFA insurance, any time you fly using the imported set.

Just bear in mind that in a worst case scenario, the CAA would instigate an AAIB, the same investigation procedures for a full size air accident, and you could be prosecuted in court. Don't think you'ld get much help from the BMFA.

If you are happy to accept those risks for the sake of a few quid, then that's your decision.

Sean

Blitz Avro, Trex 500
05-13-2008 08:34 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Prosecution Stats....

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/...stats/stats0607

We would come under RTT&E.
05-13-2008 08:39 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Sean,
I never give up !!! LOL
05-13-2008 08:40 PM
 
 
tim deakin
Senior Heliman
Location: gloucestershire uk

9387ASH, I'm one of those who touched his toes and thought of his country and bought one from the UK.And 'while I was down there'I got one with a reciever aswell.

It has a 'CE' lable on the back as well as a 'CE macgregor' lable on the bottom.

The transmitters from Hong Kong have exactly the same part no. 'NET-N259E'.And I am led to belive that they have exactly the same power-output.As they are exactly the same transmitters.

So why are they banned from the UK? Is it just to protect Macgregors interests?
05-13-2008 08:42 PM
 
 
tim deakin
Senior Heliman
Location: gloucestershire uk

And if they are the same Ofcom surely cant do a thing
05-13-2008 08:44 PM
 
 
tim deakin
Senior Heliman
Location: gloucestershire uk

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If your not happy about the price of a UK set, DON'T BUY ONE. SIMPLE.

Its not that simple,I no lots of people who are being denide a jr product (not macgregor) becouse it is simply to expencive.
05-13-2008 08:48 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Tim,

Are you saying that you bought a DSX9 outside the UK and it had the MacGregor CE label on the base ?? Did it have the MacGrgeor JR label above the sounder ?

The system has the same ID everywhere in the world except possibly for the USA, where they tend to have the system laid out either as a Heli system or Aero System. These typically will have the ID NET-N259HS or FS (would be grateful if someone from the US could confirm this for me).

Somebody somewhere effed up big style regarding CE labelling and this stems back to the DX6,DX7 ....... and the X9303.

None of these (as admitted by Horizon) sourced from the US are CE Legal. Horizon have told their model shops not to sell to Europe but apparently they cannot enforce this !!!

(Nice to see that trade works in a single direction only )

I have a US RF section in my DSX9 as issued as a sample set from JR. I have actually measured the RF output against a UK RF section and the LEGAL system is 3dB lower. Also there are variations on the RF section layout, cabling layout etc so as to meet the CE tests that are needed to legally operate this set in the UK.

When MacGregors place an order, they use a JR code that uniquely identifies the type of build required. The Transmitters are in fact built to order and not grabbed off a warehouse shelf. This way we know that the UK DSX9 is different to anyone else.

Either that or JR are telling me porkies !!
05-13-2008 09:00 PM
 
 
9387ASH
Elite Veteran
Location: UK

Oh, and MacGregor logs all Serial Numbers and Batch numbers (which contain a manufacturing code).
05-13-2008 09:01 PM
 
 
tim deakin
Senior Heliman
Location: gloucestershire uk

I bought it from Andy at Realraptors about 2 weeks ago,he didn't have one in stock and you sent him one over.

This is not about being allowed to import or anything like that.I have only ever bought From Martin Briggs,Real Raptors,Skyline and midland helicopters.
I have spent over £20,000 in this country in the last 4 years,all the radio gear I have bought has only been JR from Macgregors.
The only time I ever imported from abroad was when I couldnt get £15 pounds worth of parts for my Vibe 90!
05-13-2008 09:04 PM
 
 
1275mini
Veteran
Location: Wirral North West U.K.

just looked on my tx and box no tx type number on them

Barry
05-13-2008 09:05 PM
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